China-EU Geopolitics: News & Discussions

[Vergennes]

What do you mean by, "Freedom Of Navigation"? Are you guys really buying the the US's BS?
China has never blocked any commercial ships, China will always support FON. It's the US that sends their navy all the way to SCS and gives an excuse of FON. It's more like, "Freedom To Espionage" on China's sovereignty.
I didn't know the French are so gullible.

YET.

The French government views the protection of freedom of the seas as critical from an economic standpoint and is concerned that a loss of such rights in the South China Sea may lead to similar problems in the Arctic Ocean or Mediterranean Sea, Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told attendees at a global defense forum, including top Chinese officials.

“If we want to contain the risk of conflict, we must defend this right, and defend it ourselves,” Le Drian said on Sunday at the Shangri-La dialogue in Singapore.

Le Drian said. “It’s also a message that France will continue to act upon, by sailing its ships and flying its planes wherever international law will allow, and wherever operational needs request that we do so.”

 

[rott]

YET.

Then my guess about the French were so wrong.

 

[Vergennes]

I think French government is trying to divert the focus on their domestic chaos, refugees and migrants, domestic security and unsolvable unemployment. You know, Southern Europa pig countries are having a crazy time. If you walk in Marseille and those no-go zones, you will know why.

What a BS comment.

 

[Viet]

I wonder why Chinese posters here and there including cheerleaders are upset?

The SC Sea is international sea body and as such open to every country. Nobody cares of what China claims and says. The French are welcome to sail and do patrols in the SC Sea.

@Vauban

 

[Jlaw]

What a BS comment.

Not quite so as I was in Paris three years ago. I stayed in a hotel close to the Eiffel Tower. Around 8 pm I wanted to take a walk with my girl. Luckily the hotel clerk told me to avoid certain areas that were walking distance as he said it's unsafe for locals and tourists after dark.

I have noticed there are a lot more middle eastern and Africans in France last time than there were when I was there 15 years ago.

 

[rott]

I wonder why Chinese posters here and there including cheerleaders are upset?

The SC Sea is international sea body and as such open to every country. Nobody cares of what China claims and says. The French are welcome to sail and do patrols in the SC Sea.

@Vauban

Tsk... Tsk.... Tsk....

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Quite a lovely Chinese ship in their own Chinese Sea

New one

 

[yantong1980]

I think French government is trying to divert the focus on their domestic chaos, refugees and migrants, domestic security and unsolvable unemployment. You know, Southern Europa pig countries are having a crazy time. If you walk in Marseille and those no-go zones, you will know why.[/QUOTE

I feel pity for poor Frenchie common peoples and their liberal leader arrogance. Tons of domestic social issues and still itchy to interfering other country issues, seems they didn't learn nothing.

 

[seven7seven]

SCS means more to the Chinese than it does to the French and Americans. If Europe and US think they can break China's resolve and get them to ease up on their rightful claims, then they are sorely miscalculating. If anything, all they are doing is strengthening China's determination to enlarge and modernise China's Navy, and overall armed forces. Thank you US and France!

 

[Taygibay]

Around 8 pm I wanted to take a walk with my girl. Luckily the hotel clerk told me to avoid certain areas that were walking distance as he said it's unsafe for locals and tourists after dark.

It's my birthplace and hometown, I was there a big week ago and what you mention wasn't.
Either the hotel fellow was being overly protective of his valuable guests or you are a little
squeamish.
Could be on me too as I am notoriously unfazed by what others perceive as dangerous.
Still my 82 year-old mom goes out after dark in that town so ...

Anyway the poster that prompted Vauban's answer having called us pig country, which coming
from a Chinese is pretty rich, there's little need to go on with this gutter part of the discussion.

Good evening all, Tay.

 

[mike2000 is back]

It's my birthplace and hometown, I was there a big week ago and what you mention wasn't.
Either the hotel fellow was being overly protective of his valuable guests or you are a little
squeamish.
Could be on me too as I am notoriously unfazed by what others perceive as dangerous.
Still my 82 year-old mom goes out after dark in that town so ...

Anyway the poster that prompted Vauban's answer having called us pig country which coming
from a Chinese is pretty rich, there's little need to go on with this gutter part of the discussion.

Good evening all, Tay.

Nah dont take things too seriously with some Chinese nationalistic members here. Calling France a pig country because france has called for European powers to increase their patrols in the region. Lool. I dont understand why its only one country in the region who is complaining about this to be honest.

Funny thing is when you will post a news article about how france and China , or U.K and China are cooperating in many fields , you will see them hailing france and britain as big responsible, pragmatic intelligent smart(you name it.lol) powers. But the moment there is a news article about something we did that isnt to their liking, then expect to see some derogatory remarks of all sorts.

Anyway i dont believe for one minute France and Britain are getting involved in the region because of China per se, since we dont have much conflict of interests and relations are rather friendly or partners.

Just like every major power, Its merely to protect our interests in the region as a majority of goods sails through these seas and the region will be the most dynamic in years to come, so we need to patrol and have a presence ,which is precisely what Britain has started doing. It's also for this reason one of our QE class carrier will be based in our new massive naval base in bahrain facing the east of suez geared towards Asia.



Britain reestablishes military footprint ‘East of Suez’ for Malaysia war games
Published time: 30 Jul, 2015 16:08

© Royal Navy / Handout / NASA
Doubling UK military involvement in Far East training exercises is just the first step towards reestablishing Britain’s global strategic footprint, UK officials claim.
Prime Minister David Cameron has spent the past week on an official trip around Asia, strengthening commercial ties with a number of states in the region.

But he has also spent time focusing on the Five Powers military alliance composed of traditional partners Australia and New Zealand, as well as regional powers Malaysia and Singapore.

He is expected to commit Royal Marines, Royal Navy divers and Typhoon fighter planes to Exercise Bersama Lima, a cooperative series of war games to be held in Malaysia next year.

The Five Powers alliance was originally formed in 1971 to support Singapore and Malaysia against a feared communist takeover once Britain withdrew west from its colonial role in the region.

“This is us looking back East of Suez, thinking about where future threats and different challenges [may appear in] the world,” an unnamed official told The Telegraph.

Much has been made in strategic and academic circles in recent years of the so-called “pivot to Asia” – a strategic reorientation of military power, led by the US, toward an increasingly powerful China.

As part of a broad program of increased cooperation with Asian and Pacific allies, the UK has begun to relocate its high-tech constellation of Skynet security satellites over Asia.

The Skynet 5A systems are designed to allow secure communications capacity for Britain’s regional allies.

Airbus Defence and Space, the arm firms which operates the satellites for the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD), announced on Tuesday that the planned 67,000-kilometer move is progressing well.

The satellites will also provide security overwatch for another alliance: the Five Eyes, which is comprised of the UK, USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.

In a statement on the satellites capabilities and mission, Colin Paynter, head of Airbus Space and Defence, said: “The Skynet 5 constellation consists of the world’s most powerful, nuclear hardened and protected, military X-band and UHF satellites.

“With the move of Skynet 5A, we will expand the availability of our premium secure MILSATCOM services to allied nations in the region who need high grade resilient and secure communications services to complement their existing systems.”

https://www.rt.com/uk/311186-britain-suez-east-rebuild/

 

[mike2000 is back]

what do you expect its david is saying it. the guy who put his d!ck in a severed pigs head as an initaition (fact)

Nope you are wrong. The U.K as I said has even been the most forthcoming European country to increase its patrols and presence in the region to secure our interests. I dont understand why you are thinking otherwise. As I said before even to my french brother vauban(who was saying France and other western European NATO members won't take part in comung to the aid of an eastern European NATO ally, in case they were attacked by say Russia, that only Britain and the U.S could intervene), some of us might have other wishes, but we dont have any say whatsoever in how our leaders carry out foreign policy or how they go about securing our interests globally and alliances. We can only make observations, analyse what is going on and wish things go the way we wish. Lol

So analysing what we are doing(not what you wish or think bro), its clear that we are increasing our commitment and presence in the region, this is not aimed at any particular country though. Its just to secure our interests just like many countries do.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/exposed-why-britains-military-back-the-pacific-14859
http://www.infowars.com/uk-presses-for-larger-military-presence-in-asia/
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/construction-begins-on-new-base-for-the-royal-navy-in-bahrain

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...z-with-permanent-Royal-Navy-base-in-Gulf.html


Moreover, have some little respect for your leaders. Have you ever seen even Chinese or Russian members here using such derogatory remarks on their leader no matter the situation? so calm down bro.

 

[livingdead]

la grande nation.. lolz ... reminds me of Mars attacks...

 

[Vergennes]

It's my birthplace and hometown, I was there a big week ago and what you mention wasn't.
Either the hotel fellow was being overly protective of his valuable guests or you are a little
squeamish.
Could be on me too as I am notoriously unfazed by what others perceive as dangerous.
Still my 82 year-old mom goes out after dark in that town so ...

Anyway the poster that prompted Vauban's answer having called us pig country which coming
from a Chinese is pretty rich, there's little need to go on with this gutter part of the discussion.

Good evening all, Tay.

Forget about them,debating with them is worthless.
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@Taygibay

 

[cirr]

China and EU aim to create 'education Silk Road to future'

Chinese and EU ministers strike agreement on mutual recognition of degrees

October 18, 2016

By John Morgan

China and EU education ministers have discussed building a joint “education Silk Road towards the future” and signed agreements on mutual recognition of degrees.

The meeting, held in Beijing last week, also addressed “student exchanges and other important areas such as expanding cooperation between universities and enterprises and cultivating student entrepreneurs and innovation”, according to China’s Ministry of Education.

Ahead of the meeting, China signed agreements on the mutual recognition of degrees with 19 EU member states, including the UK, France and Germany, the ministry said.

The China-EU education minister’s conference had the title of “Building a China-EU education Silk Road towards the future”.

According to official statistics, more than 303,000 Chinese students were studying in the EU by the end of 2015, accounting for 24 per cent of all Chinese students abroad, an increase of 7.5 per cent from 2014.

More than 45,000 EU students came to China in 2015, accounting for 11.3 per cent of all international students studying in the country last year.

Tibor Navracsics, European commissioner for education, culture, youth and sport, said at the meeting: “Education helps us to understand each other better and build economic and social progress together.

“It is therefore no coincidence that Europe and China have this openness and are developing closer ties by cooperating on education.”

He added: “We have a solid base to build on: proven initiatives that have enabled us to boost academic cooperation, to foster student, teacher and researcher mobility, and to find a common language for the modernisation of our education systems.”

Mr Navracsics highlighted support for student and academic mobility between Europe and China via the EU’s Erasmus+ programme, as well as joint courses being offered by Chinese and European institutions.


https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/china-and-eu-aim-create-education-silk-road-future