China Delivers First Batch of Military Aid to Afghanistan

[pakdefender]

@A-Team

We will build the fence and leave you to your fate , that is our strategy going forwards

 

[jermankill]

- China needs Pakistani approval ?

- All I am saying is that China just gave weapons to the AF gov that she will use to eliminate GHQ proxies, you do the math my friend

good for u now attack on Pakistan with the help of China .....
i think u r to much high these days

 

[Spring Onion]

I think it is mistake to go back in the past as we both did nasty things to each other, the question is that with all the turmoil happening in our neighbourhood is it wise for two neighbours, inseparable for eternity to be in a never ending cycle of hostilities ?

Groups such as ISIS, Talis and other do not believe in boundaries, they murder Afghans today, they will murder Pakistanis tomorrow, that is why my case is that AF-PK government must realize the gravity of the situation, sit one-one and find a long lasting solution to this bad blood between us.

/Peace

Agreed. that is why I reminded you that the past is converted into present by both sides so it is a two-way traffic. Afghanistan should seriously develop friendly ties with Pakistan instead of letting her soil used for Indian proxies against us. Seriously Afghanistan-Pakistan-China even Russia in my personal opinion would be way froward

 

[A-Team]

Agreed. that is why I reminded you that the past is converted into present by both sides so it is a two-way traffic. Afghanistan should seriously develop friendly ties with Pakistan instead of letting her soil used for Indian proxies against us. Seriously Afghanistan-Pakistan-China even Russia in my personal opinion would be way froward

There you go, just by conversing less than 30 minutes we have reached some simile of an "agreement"

Genuine, frank and maybe difficult dialogue is the way forward as I have always believed.

If the Germans and the French can get along, we as hell can do the same, and this also goes along for the Pak-India relationship, stop being eternal enemies

Make love, not war

/Peace

 

[nangyale]

This is significant move from the Chinese on taking sides in the Afghan conflict, all parties with the exception of GHQ has chosen the right side, aka the Afghan government, these weapons will be used to eliminate GHQ proxies aka Afghan Talis, is GHQ now in direct conflict with Chinese now?

Food for thought anyone?

@pakistani342 : one more item to add the list of Pakistan being cornered for its policies vis-a-vis Afghanistan?

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http://www.voanews.com/content/china-military-aid-afghanistan/3402178.html

Beijing wants to have regular and normal state-to-state relations with the Afghan government and the Afghan people, which includes military cooperation.

“Afghanistan is our close neighbor and a very important neighbor to China… So, this is the beginning of our regular military-to-military exchanges and cooperation,” Jing said.

This is not a significant move.

Read your article again. Here

The cargo apparently contained among other things logistical equipment, parts of military vehicles, ammunition and weapons for the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF).......................
Atmar declined to discuss further details or value of the Chinese equipment, saying such military matters required secrecy. He said the assistance shows a joint resolve against terrorism facing Afghanistan and China.................

So basically it's just a symbolic gesture on part of China. To say look we are part of the quadrilateral Contact Group and here's a token of goodwill to keep you happy.

It's completely insignificant in military terms.

 

[Basel]

This is significant move from the Chinese on taking sides in the Afghan conflict, all parties with the exception of GHQ has chosen the right side, aka the Afghan government, these weapons will be used to eliminate GHQ proxies aka Afghan Talis, is GHQ now in direct conflict with Chinese now?

Food for thought anyone?

@pakistani342 : one more item to add the list of Pakistan being cornered for its policies vis-a-vis Afghanistan?

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http://www.voanews.com/content/china-military-aid-afghanistan/3402178.html

Beijing wants to have regular and normal state-to-state relations with the Afghan government and the Afghan people, which includes military cooperation.

“Afghanistan is our close neighbor and a very important neighbor to China… So, this is the beginning of our regular military-to-military exchanges and cooperation,” Jing said.

China don't take unilateral action in region where Pakistan's stakes are involved, they must have consulted with Pakistan and its good move to have some influence and to start counter measures against Indian influence. International relation are very complex game.

 

[nangyale]

Bottom line.

Some one is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[New World]

This is significant move from the Chinese on taking sides in the Afghan conflict, all parties with the exception of GHQ has chosen the right side, aka the Afghan government, these weapons will be used to eliminate GHQ proxies aka Afghan Talis, is GHQ now in direct conflict with Chinese now?

Food for thought anyone?

@pakistani342 : one more item to add the list of Pakistan being cornered for its policies vis-a-vis Afghanistan?

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http://www.voanews.com/content/china-military-aid-afghanistan/3402178.html

Beijing wants to have regular and normal state-to-state relations with the Afghan government and the Afghan people, which includes military cooperation.

“Afghanistan is our close neighbor and a very important neighbor to China… So, this is the beginning of our regular military-to-military exchanges and cooperation,” Jing said.

lolx. you take this development in wrong way..

we persuade China to cooperate with ANA so that they should not be played by india...

NOTE: China till yet haven't give any military aid to Afghanistan Officailly...

what kind of military aid is this?? any hardware??

 

[Djinn]

The most amusing thing about this thread is the OP's delusional overtone that "China has ditched Pakistan and is BFF with Afghanistan now"

 

[pzfz]

a couple of crates and Pak is isolated. a-team, you're not getting anywhere with the bold all caps isolation theme. but are most welcome to run fantasies in your head.

chinese influence is welcome and has been a pakj goal since the beginning. quad-talks and dialogue between rebels and kabul are also chinese policy. win-win for pak and less of the us trying to budge in delhi. pak training afghans in kakul and doing development work in afg represents about as much of a turn in policy as do these crates. the policy remains to keep afg boiling until kabul comes to its senses. then a conversation can start.

 

[haviZsultan]

Chinese intervention was one of Pakistan's demands in order to offset and abolish India's fingerprint in the nation. No or very few Pakistanis oppose this. Getting China involved in rebuilding the nation is a positive sign and I am sure you know about the good relations between China and Pakistan. With India its very different. In Pakistani eyes you can't compare Indian and Chinese intervention in Afghanistan as the same thing. India has for decades supported anti-pashtun movements. They know pashtuns are the biggest force that has fought India and won including liberation of kashmir in 48.

@A-Team

 

[Gufi]

This is significant move from the Chinese on taking sides in the Afghan conflict, all parties with the exception of GHQ has chosen the right side, aka the Afghan government, these weapons will be used to eliminate GHQ proxies aka Afghan Talis, is GHQ now in direct conflict with Chinese now?

Yes, this is totally a unbiased opinion from a pacifist. Come to Pakistan and look through the 3 million plus Afghans we have in the country. Or take them all back... Ten thousand Syrians were not accepted by America because of fear of terrorists amongst them and we shelter millions and all we hear is do more.
Your people are currently based in the cities you say the Afghan Taliban leadership resides, and we do not have the time to go sifting through the millions to find those who you say are terrorists.
Enough with the Afghan and their sides, handle your own mess and stop dragging us into your problems. You can not handle your country, your soldiers lose vast chunks of land and are unable to control their own equipment which ends up in the hands of those Afghans who are fighting this government.
The weapons are given to fight the Afghans because of certain political advantages the Afghans can serve the Chinese in regards to Chinese interests which are also currently Pakistani interests. The Afghan army can not deal with proxies at the moment, forget a proper army with air support and disciplined leadership who will not end up selling their weapons and running at the sign of gun fire. Let us build the border walls in peace, take back your own people, and then maybe you will be able to start seeing peace in the country.

 

[Gufi]

Chinese intervention was one of Pakistan's demands in order to offset and abolish India's fingerprint in the nation. No or very few Pakistanis oppose this. Getting China involved in rebuilding the nation is a positive sign and I am sure you know about the good relations between China and Pakistan. With India its very different. In Pakistani eyes you can't compare Indian and Chinese intervention in Afghanistan as the same thing. India has for decades supported anti-pashtun movements. They know pashtuns are the biggest force that has fought India and won including liberation of kashmir in 48.

Every act is seen in terms of "how will this Pakistan weaker" or what effect will this have on Pakistan.... It is sickening to watch the help of one nation being labelled as a defeat for our GHQ.

 

[pzfz]

The most amusing thing about this thread is the OP's delusional overtone that "China has ditched Pakistan and is BFF with Afghanistan now"

shhh. it helps him cope with the bitter reality and future that is afg.

 

[ssethii]

Frankly I am bit surprised that you are accusing me of hating you or Pakistan, I am a pacifist and pan-regionalist as a matter of fact I want Pakistan to succeed because it will help AF succeed but I just don't agree with the current policies of Pak establishment which supports groups that kill Afghans everyday so I am putting across my view and the current geo-political consideration that is happening the region which shows that Pakistan must pivot its polices vis-a-vis Afghanistan, stop supporting proxies and deal with the Afghan government one-one as two sovereign states. If Pakistan wants to have its genuine grievances addressed it must address it via the elected Afghan Gov and not via proxies such as the Haqqanis or Talis.

@Spring Onion

You are living in fool's paradise if you think Taliban is a foreign funded proxy in Afghanistan.