China arms up MIRVs in response to South Sea crisis

[Economic superpower]

It is only reasonable that we arm ourselves to the teeth to protect our national security. Once again, I want to remind our friends that we have a No-First Use policy.

That no-first-use nuclear policy is the reason countries are not afraid to pick a fight with China. Even weaklings like Vietnam and Philippines are not scared of China. In the 1979 war with Vietnam, China should have bombed the entire infrastructure of Vietnam back to the stone age and left. You don't just leave, you leave after you bomb all its industrial, commercial, scientific and military infrastructure into a million pieces.

One of the greatest mistakes CPC ever made was to have a NFU policy on nukes.

China has not been aggressive enough against its neighbours. They take China's timid responses as a sign of weakness. If China pushed back in uncompromising fashion, no one would mess with China.

CPC brought it upon itself by being so timid and trying to be nice guys.

Chinese military budget should be over $500 billion per year for a $10 trillion economy and the nuclear arsenal should be 8,000 with the no-first-use policy abolished.

If Taiwan declares independence, China should state that it will use military force including the nuclear option.

Only after Xi Jinping came to power has China become what it needs to become..... aggressive!

China must challenge and change the status quo.

 

[Jlaw]

That no-first-use nuclear policy is the reason countries are not afraid to pick a fight with China. Even weaklings like Vietnam and Philippines are not scared of China. In the 1979 war with Vietnam, China should have bombed the entire infrastructure of Vietnam back to the stone age and left. You don't just leave, you leave after you bomb all its industrial, commercial, scientific and military infrastructure into a million pieces.

One of the greatest mistakes CPC ever made was to have a NFU policy on nukes.

China has not been aggressive enough against its neighbours. They take China's timid responses as a sign of weakness. If China pushed back in uncompromising fashion, no one would mess with China.

CPC brought it upon itself by being so timid and trying to be nice guys.

Chinese military budget should be over $500 billion per year for a $10 trillion economy and the nuclear arsenal should be 8,000 with the no-first-use policy abolished.

If Taiwan declares independence, China should state that it will use military force including the nuclear option.

Only after Xi Jinping came to power has China become what it needs to become..... aggressive!

China must challenge and change the status quo.

True. After kicking the indians *** in 1962 we gave back their weapons!! WTF! Not only that, we took care of their captured soldiers and fed them when we had a famine at home.

That's just so fucked up.

 

[Beast]

Then we'll stop shopping at Walmart and all the Chinese will starve to death

I thought it's the US citizen who starve to death or choke by hyper inflation?

 

[Economic superpower]

True. After kicking the indians *** in 1962 we gave back their weapons!! WTF! Not only that, we took care of their captured soldiers and fed them when we had a famine at home.

That's just so fucked up.

Exactly. Why should China show kindness to others when they don't show kindness to China.

Chinese leaders must show more confidence.

 

[Jlaw]

Exactly. Why should China show kindness to others when they don't show kindness to China.

Chinese leaders must show more confidence.

I think it's stupid ancient Chinese believe that if you treat someone with kindness they will return the favour. Maybe work in personal affairs but not when dealing with nations. I just hope they learn their lesson.

 

[Beast]

That no-first-use nuclear policy is the reason countries are not afraid to pick a fight with China. Even weaklings like Vietnam and Philippines are not scared of China. In the 1979 war with Vietnam, China should have bombed the entire infrastructure of Vietnam back to the stone age and left. You don't just leave, you leave after you bomb all its industrial, commercial, scientific and military infrastructure into a million pieces.

One of the greatest mistakes CPC ever made was to have a NFU policy on nukes.

China has not been aggressive enough against its neighbours. They take China's timid responses as a sign of weakness. If China pushed back in uncompromising fashion, no one would mess with China.

CPC brought it upon itself by being so timid and trying to be nice guys.

Chinese military budget should be over $500 billion per year for a $10 trillion economy and the nuclear arsenal should be 8,000 with the no-first-use policy abolished.

If Taiwan declares independence, China should state that it will use military force including the nuclear option.

Only after Xi Jinping came to power has China become what it needs to become..... aggressive!

China must challenge and change the status quo.

NFU is to allow China ASBM and ballistic missile attack to be fully legalized. Sometimes you can't differential nuke tip ballistic missile or conventional warhead ballistic missile when launched. By declaring NFU, we can fire as many ballistic missile as we want attacking US, Japan airbases without going into nuclear war. Becos we already declared we will not use nuclear warhead first, warhead is conventional and if others countries don't believe they can risk WWIII. That is the massive reason why USN CVN never dare to venture near Taiwan ever since 1996.

 

[TaiShang]

That no-first-use nuclear policy is the reason countries are not afraid to pick a fight with China. Even weaklings like Vietnam and Philippines are not scared of China. In the 1979 war with Vietnam, China should have bombed the entire infrastructure of Vietnam back to the stone age and left. You don't just leave, you leave after you bomb all its industrial, commercial, scientific and military infrastructure into a million pieces.

One of the greatest mistakes CPC ever made was to have a NFU policy on nukes.

I guess NFU is a prudent policy for a nation still working toward a fully developed status. Please remember that the NFU policy is accompanied by a policy of strategic ambiguity in terms of the number and types of nukes China has. Combined, these two policies both ensure China's peaceful development and make sure that enemies think twice before they are into anything stiupid against China.

If Taiwan declares independence, China should state that it will use military force including the nuclear option.

That's I agree with. China should state that "all option are on the table" without specifically referring to nukes. Nukes are best when they act as a deterrent. Speaking of nukes at every instance takes away the inherent deterrence. Better be silent and let foes guess what our real intentions are.

Only after Xi Jinping came to power has China become what it needs to become..... aggressive!

China must challenge and change the status quo.

Yes, Xi Jinping has taken over the next stage of China's national revitalization. He has been working on multiple fronts; from fighting against corruption and institution building to asserting China's sovereignty in ECS and SCS.

 

[Beast]

I guess NFU is a prudent policy for a nation still working toward a fully developed status. Please remember that the NFU policy is accompanied by a policy of strategic ambiguity in terms of the number and types of nukes China has. Combined, these two policies both ensure China's peaceful development and make sure that enemies think twice before they are into anything stiupid against China.



That's I agree with. China should state that "all option are on the table" without specifically referring to nukes. Nukes are best when they act as a deterrent. Speaking of nukes at every instance takes away the inherent deterrence. Better be silent and let foes guess what our real intentions are.



Yes, Xi Jinping has taken over the next stage of China's national revitalization. He has been working on multiple fronts; from fighting against corruption and institution building to asserting China's sovereignty in ECS and SCS.

I think China shall declare non military intervention re unification on taiwan. By doing so, it demonstrated her economic confident. China will nationalise all taiwan asset in China and total blockade of economic trade with Taiwan if she declare independence. The days of using violence is over. We are entering into the civilization world. Military is the only last resort.

 

[Jlaw]

I think China shall declare non military intervention re unification on taiwan. By doing so, it demonstrated her economic confident. China will nationalise all taiwan asset in China and total blockade of economic trade with Taiwan if she declare independence. The days of using violence is over. We are entering into the civilization world. Military is the only last resort.

how does China nationalize Taiwanese companies in Taiwan if Taiwan declare independence without military intervention?

 

[Beast]

how does China nationalize Taiwanese companies in Taiwan if Taiwan declare independence without military intervention?

Almost 80% Taiwan overseas investment is in mainland China. Seriously which taiwanese dare to declare independence if China confiscated all these taiwanese owned asset?

Taiwan stock market will be worthless overnight.

 

[Jlaw]

Almost 80% Taiwan overseas investment is in mainland China. Seriously which taiwanese dare to declare independence if China confiscated all these taiwanese owned asset?

Taiwan stock market will be worthless overnight.

I'm sure there are at least 40% of the population from DDP camp that would declare independence. But the question is, if Taiwan doesn't declare independence than how will China reclaim Taiwan?

 

[terranMarine]

I'm sure there are at least 40% of the population from DDP camp that would declare independence. But the question is, if Taiwan doesn't declare independence than how will China reclaim Taiwan?

That's what i said before, Taiwanese can keep playing the status quo card. Then what?

 

[Beast]

I'm sure there are at least 40% of the population from DDP camp that would declare independence. But the question is, if Taiwan doesn't declare independence than how will China reclaim Taiwan?

But they do not run Taiwan economic. Surely, directly or indirectly any taiwanese benefit cross strait business. They can try independent but consequent will be devastating. As for your concern. Slowly the US will decline further until the stages like overseas base and military intervention is very expensive. I will say another 10yrs time. It will be the world of Chinese. We landed man on moon and has long taken over US economy as number one. The world revolve around China. You still think reunification or joing of one country 2 system is remote?

 

[TaiShang]

I'm sure there are at least 40% of the population from DDP camp that would declare independence. But the question is, if Taiwan doesn't declare independence than how will China reclaim Taiwan?

That's the gist of the issue. The current status quo at times creates headaches in Beijing, I understand that. But still, time seems to be on the motherland's side because each passing year China's strategic hold to the North and South of Taiwan is growing stronger. What remains for Taiwan will be the eastward direction which does not offer much strategic leverage.

The future for Taiwan from now is further strategic isolation, not less. Despite all odds, therefore, I believe military must be the last resort. Bringing Taiwan closer to the mainland through economic deals is the way to go. Once the legs of the scissor (ECS and SCS) is firmly built, it will be only a matter of convenience for Beijing to entirely cut Taiwan off from the geo-political map in the Asia-Pacific and render it yet another city of China, de facto, as well as de jure.

 

[Jlaw]

That's the gist of the issue. The current status quo at times creates headaches in Beijing, I understand that. But still, time seems to be on the motherland's side because each passing year China's strategic hold to the North and South of Taiwan is growing stronger. What remains for Taiwan will be the eastward direction which does not offer much strategic leverage.

The future for Taiwan from now is further strategic isolation, not less. Despite all odds, therefore, I believe military must be the last resort. Bringing Taiwan closer to the mainland through economic deals is the way to go. Once the legs of the scissor (ECS and SCS) is firmly built, it will be only a matter of convenience for Beijing to entirely cut Taiwan off from the geo-political map in the Asia-Pacific and render it yet another city of China, de facto, as well as de jure.

Within the next few years China must give Taiwan an ultimatum deadline for reunification.