Chaiwala redux: India's unemployment rate hit 45-year high in 2017/18: report

[Tanveer666]

Are you even in Bangladesh?

oh shit, I've been caught!

 

[VikingRaider]

My man, that's what BD economy is, in a nutshell.

Where is massive unemployment in Bangladesh now, if may I ask? Yes many low paid jobs no doubt, but in this case Bangladesh is doing much better than past days. Surely not as good as AL peoples claim, but extreme poverty in Bangladesh is reduced for sure and all are for lots of job opportunities and reduction of unemployment ( yes low paid but still those are jobs) .

 

[Nilgiri]

This @Bilal9 must be smoking pots 24/7. Why does he have to doubt someone's nationality and patriotism whenever he/she does not agree with him? @Bilal9 is the most stupid guy I have ever encountered in a discussion forum. I ask him to get the hell out of this sub-forum. This is not a place for an ignorant and one-track minded guy like you. Shameless @Bilal9, just get out!!

@Nilgiri, the south Indian.


After all, that village guy @Bilal9 has been elected the Father of PDF. This is what he implies by talking soooo big!!

Yep his 300 Taka Bhadrolok Tea is too good for you....you Kolkata Sanghi!

In any case this is off topic for this thread.

Says the moron that started this thread in the wrong forum

oh shit, I've been caught!

Indeed you have....yer just another false flagging sanghi!

What a dead giveaway this is too:

Where is massive unemployment in Bangladesh now, if may I ask? Yes many low paid jobs no doubt, but in this case Bangladesh is doing much better than past days. Surely not as good as AL peoples claim, but extreme poverty in Bangladesh is reduced for sure and all are for lots of job opportunities and reduction of unemployment ( yes low paid but still those are jobs) .

There is no massive unemployment in South Asia period....because there is good availabilitiy of low productivity jobs...just need to look for them.

The real issue (if you read my earlier post links here before Billu started throwing even more of a hissy fit) is underemployment and LFPR.

 

[Tanveer666]

Where is massive unemployment in Bangladesh now, if may I ask? Yes many low paid jobs no doubt, but in this case Bangladesh is doing much better than past days. Surely not as good as AL peoples claim, but extreme poverty in Bangladesh is reduced for sure and all are for lots of job opportunities and reduction of unemployment ( yes low paid but still those are jobs) .

well, last year we did see thousands of unemployed students protesting about quota reform.
i agree the situation isn't near the "boiling point" but who knows what the future holds.

The real issue (if you read my earlier post links here before Billu started throwing even more of a hissy fit) is underemployment and LFPR.

i guess that sums up my point.

 

[Bilal9]

well, last year we did see thousands of unemployed students protesting about quota reform.
i agree the situation isn't near the "boiling point" but who knows what the future holds.


i guess that sums up my point.

No - your response is typical of someone that has little idea of situation on the ground in Bangladesh (i.e. an outsider). Perceptions on the Internet are at best 20% real.

And typical, you don't even know that most students below HSC level aren't even in the job market, They aren't looking for jobs at that point. The protestors do not belong to job seeker group. 'Boiling Point' my foot.

The students were NOT protesting about quota reform because of a LACK of JOBS, they were protesting because of 'student admittance' quotas whereby students from certain reserved ethnic groups as well as other groups (children of freedom fighters for example) got admitted solely because of their memberships to those groups (and not because of merit alone).

It is surprising to me that you know so little about these quotas in Bangladesh...

Where is massive unemployment in Bangladesh now, if may I ask? Yes many low paid jobs no doubt, but in this case Bangladesh is doing much better than past days. Surely not as good as AL peoples claim, but extreme poverty in Bangladesh is reduced for sure and all are for lots of job opportunities and reduction of unemployment ( yes low paid but still those are jobs) .

Poverty has been reduced in real terms and much more so when compared to neighbor countries.

I freely admit I'm no economist, but those Bangladeshi bhais with more experience in it can comment.

@Homo Sapiens bhai what are your thoughts about poverty reduction and the connection of that to job creation in Bangladesh?

 

[Nilgiri]

LOL at some guy with US as his location preaching to another with BD as his....about "response is typical of someone that has little idea of situation on the ground in Bangladesh".

You really can't make this stuff up! @Joe Shearer @GeraltofRivia @Mage @bluesky @Atlas @VCheng @Aung Zaya @Cherokee @scorpionx @jbgt90 @Valar. @Tps43

I freely admit I'm no economist

How appropriate of you!

but those Bangladeshi bhais with more experience in it can comment.

There are Bangladeshi economists in this forum? Well I'll be....! Where? I want to have a proper debate for once!...instead of the toying Vader does with little Luke at the start of cloud city duel

Poverty has been reduced in real terms and much more so when compared to neighbor countries.

Ohhhhhhhhh daaaayummmmm, are you or are you not an economist? CONFUS! What does the best poverty measure out there say?:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...o-lead-world-bank.598776/page-4#post-11129373

India = 0.121 (2015-2016)

Bangladesh = 0.194 (2014)

I'll let you do the basic subtraction Mr. Economist that says he isn't.

 

[Bilal9]

Ei bekoob paye telapokar moto laiga aasey.

Pa jhara dileyo pa chharbona.

 

[bluesky]

Still better than the country known for being the topmost beggar of this whole world where half of the population poops on street.

Why do you have to measure your small dick with others unnecessarily? Irrespective of what other countries' performances are, the country should set its own targets and achieve them with its own resources and manpower as much as possible. Here, you guys are self-flattering when international people castigate BD as being lower than Cambodia.

 

[Nilgiri]

Ei bekoob paye telapokar moto laiga aasey.

Pa jhara dileyo pa chharbona.

Yes such a credible loving person of Bangladesh you are:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saud...ent-in-bangladesh.598992/page-2#post-11145181

They are behaving no differently than we would, if we had the same level of oil money.

How wrong of "Kolkata Sanghi" to call you out for your "love" of your real country:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...er-than-pakistans.536089/page-9#post-10141603

That you made a bangla basha test for him to prove his nationality to your highness....

...instead of actually looking at the data for your dumb assertions:

https://ophi.org.uk/multidimensional-poverty-index/databank/global-comparisons/

 

[VikingRaider]

well, last year we did see thousands of unemployed students protesting about quota reform.
i agree the situation isn't near the "boiling point" but who knows what the future holds.

@Tanveer666,
They were actually protesting against discrimination named freedom fighter quota, not against unemployment.

Besides most of them will get private job and not govt job, as govt job posts are limited, so indeed this was a protest against this elite quota , not against unemployment .

Most of the students will not be beneficial from the 30% quota, most of them will do jobs in private sectors.

How many registered freedom fighters do we have? More or less than 2-2.5 lakh, right ? And for them and their children, later even for their grand children 30% quota was fixed, and that was not only discrimination but this quota was intended to create an elite class and the 30% quota were mostly filled with political goons.


Very few freedom fighters were being beneficial from this quota.So this fact already cancelled your point.

And also labeling it as the protest against unemployment will be an insult to their achievement.
For their glorious protest now first class and second class jobs are free from the 30% fake quota and this discrimination is end now .

However another movement started 2 times by some children of fake freedom fighters to re established the 30% freedom fighters quota and they were twenty eight in numbers!

So it's more clear now the 30% quota was designed to make an elite class and no one support this discrimination .

So in short it was the protest against discrimination not against unemployment, the students just didn't want Bangladesh to bear the burden named freedom fighter quota so they started protesting .

Poverty has been reduced in real terms and much more so when compared to neighbor countries.

I have no practical idea about neighbouring countries and their ground reality, as I do not read most of news related to those countries. But yes if our country is doing better comparing our neighbours, then surely it is a great achievement!

However we all know that in our country poverty is indeed reduced in a certain degree ,and also job facilities increased a lot comparing past days . No disagrment here. I hope govt will take some more realistic steps so that unemployment and extreme poverty will be completely vanished soon , and govt has to take those steps right now.

And vocational skilled peoples can replace very low paid unskilled peoples, and govt should consider it as top priority,as only it can be directly beneficial for poor peoples right now. And I am hopeful that govt will take steps.

And another very good and practical achievement is, Govt already reduced the numbers of beggars in Bangladesh dramatically. Imo it's one of the major achievement of govt as it directly let those beggars the option to live a human life. I saw many beggars are drawing rickshaws and vans ( this van is a type of rickshaws that only carry goods in short distance).

Surely the fight against hunger is a great achievement , but maybe many people will not consider it a great achievement because they never feel the pain of starvation.
@Bilal9

The real issue (if you read my earlier post links here before Billu started throwing even more of a hissy fit) is underemployment and LFPR.

Actually my message was not for any issue ,but it was a comparative message regarding last decades of employment or unemployment of Bangladesh, and it was to show him his error, and also later his ( tanveer )reply was even more complicated about students protest.

 

[bluesky]

well, last year we did see thousands of unemployed students protesting about quota reform.
i agree the situation isn't near the "boiling point" but who knows what the future holds.

@Tanveer666, please understand that the quota reform movement was all about govt employment. However, this kind of employment is for the elites only who would pass the State examinations. A country's youth cannot depend wholly upon this kind of elite employment. Educated or half-educated, they need opportunities in the private sector which is not forthcoming.

The country needs to establish many factories to create millions of jobs. BD is failing at setting up factories. Even not so many EPZs are yet ready for this and jobs are not being created as a result. Instead of working on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd industrial revolutions the country's ministers are talking of a futuristic 4th revolution that can be dreamed only by countries like Japan and Germany.

These countries need the 4th one because they forecast a shortage of manpower and they have all the money, technology and knowhow to make it happen. For example, Japan's present working population of 81 million will reduce to only 67 million within a few decades. But, BD, with a burden of 160+ million people and without any kind of technology base, needs the other revolutions.

 

[VikingRaider]

BD, with a burden of 160+ million peole and without any experience and technology, needs the other revolutions.

Exactly, we need many skilled peoples, specially with vocational skills, so that they can be self employed and also if someone want to go aboard, they can have this skill and get honorable jobs, other than odd jobs!

So we should seriously and heavily focus on vacational skill teaching instead of mass golden A+ fest that actually making students useless farm er murgi ( ফার্মের মুর্গী).

Govt should take steps on this as top priority IMHO . And only then very low paid jobs will be replaced by skilled peoples with better pay.

 

[Nilgiri]

Actually my message was not for any issue ,but it was a comparative message regarding last decades of employment or unemployment of Bangladesh, and it was to show him his error, and also later his ( tanveer )reply was even more complicated about students protest.

yup bro, just clarifying point more to tanveer. Your position is well balanced here, I got no issue with it.

 

[thesolar65]

What is the exact defination of Unemployment?

 

[Nilgiri]

What is the exact defination of Unemployment?

Those that are both willing and able to work, that have no work.