Casualties during heavy firing on LOC

[[Bregs]]

This border firing is not going to solve even an inch of dispute but might kill innocents or soldiers whose children will be orphaned and yet the issue on ground will remain same . ceasefire is must

 

[Stephen Cohen]

So your forces didn't had any free hand before??

The Response depends on Government orders

And talking of intellect ; Why do you believe that our Mortars kill
only Civilians in your side

It is well known that Artillery causes more casualties than Infantry weapons

When Taliban can cause 6700 casualties ;using just RPGs; IEDs and Ak 47s
you can calculate your casualties on the LOC given that
we fire Heavy Mortars and Artillery ; quite freely and liberally

 

[Areesh]

The Response depends on Government orders

And talking of intellect ; Why do you believe that our Mortars kill
only Civilians in your side

It is well known that Artillery causes more casualties than Infantry weapons

When Taliban can cause 6700 casualties ;using just RPGs; IEDs and Ak 47s
you can calculate your casualties on the LOC given that
we fire Heavy Mortars and Artillery ; quite freely and liberally

It is all BS that you bharatis have been fed by your state. Indian army always had free hand to respond to whatever it faces on LOC. And nothing has changed today. Congress or BJP or anyone else doesn't matter. In fact BJP has proven to be a liability for Indian army due to its policy of using army and its deaths for its own politics.

And i am not interested in calculating anything since I have ISPR to tell me about my casualties. I am satisfied that we are giving reality checks to warmongers like you in every few days.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

ceasefire is must

Ceasefire violations always start from their side

It is like this
1 First they violate ceasefire to give covering fire to terrorists

2 We Retaliate heavily causing a lot of damage

3 They get angry and the Firing spreads to several other areas and sectors

4 It is a Free for all situation

And This Government has authorised 3:1 Retaliation

3 shells for One shell ; so obviously they will get angry with us and this
cycle will continue

 

[[Bregs]]

Ceasefire violations always start from their side

It is like this
1 First they violate ceasefire to give covering fire to terrorists

2 We Retaliate heavily causing a lot of damage

3 They get angry and the Firing spreads to several other areas and sectors

4 It is a Free for all situation

And This Government has authorised 3:1 Retaliation

3 shells for One shell ; so obviously they will get angry with us and this
cycle will continue

yes unfortunately if terrorists could solve any issue then there would have been no needs of war or ceasefire to gain time to make trust. But now not possible between our two countries

 

[Stephen Cohen]

But now not possible between our two countries

This Low intensity conflict is necessary for conveying our intent
and showing our will and ability to fight

The Inactive and passive Govt of MMS had only emboldened the Enemy

It also keeps the enemy guessing and on its toes
in case the conflict escalated suddenly

Because of our aggresiveness ; they have to deploy more units all along the border

That affects their Rest ; Training and Re equipment cycles
which is a cost in itself

 

[[Bregs]]

This Low intensity conflict is necessary for conveying our intent
and showing our will and ability to fight

The Inactive and passive Govt of MMS had only emboldened the Enemy

It also keeps the enemy guessing and on its toes
in case the conflict escalated suddenly

Because of our aggresiveness ; they have to deploy more units all along the border

That affects their Rest ; Training and Re equipment cycles
which is a cost in itself

ye of course retaliation that too strong is must but this must solve things on ground and lead to ceasefire

 

[Stephen Cohen]

ye of course retaliation that too strong is must but this must solve things on ground and lead to ceasefire

You cannot Request the enemy to be Peaceful

They will do want they want

We can only react and impose costs on them

You have seen what happened in the MMS era

He believed that by being passive he would be able to convince them
to make peace with India

It only emboldened them for more attacks

Just forget about peace ; you have to fight Fire with fire

The Civilians can be relocated

 

[[Bregs]]

You cannot Request the enemy to be Peaceful

They will do want they want

We can only react and impose costs on them

You have seen what happened in the MMS era

He believed that by being passive he would be able to convince them
to make peace with India

It only emboldened them for more attacks

Just forget about peace ; you have to fight Fire with fire

The Civilians can be relocated

yea the policies needs to be changed regularly not one set policy will work in such a complex case. Upping the cost of causing terrorism is one such option

 

[Areesh]

This Low intensity conflict is necessary for conveying our intent

This statement alone shows clearly that war mongers are on Indian side and not ours. Poor Indian soldiers have to pay the price for this senseless warmongering of their compatriots living in cities comfortably and foolish Indians blame us while disease in reality is in your nation.

If Indians want that their soldiers shouldn't die at LOC then they need to cure idiots like @Stephen Cohen. Your soldiers would stop losing their heads the day you cure the cancer in India as a nation. Cure your war mongering and save your soldiers. The equation is simple India.

yea the policies needs to be changed regularly not one set policy will work in such a complex case. Upping the cost of causing terrorism is one such option

You can never solve a problem when problem is inside you guys. You need to realize that problem is not other side of the border but you buys. You guys because of your continuous war mongering are the biggest threat to your jawans.

Want to save your soldiers?? Control your stupid aggression.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

This statement alone shows clearly that war mongers are on Indian side and not ours. Poor Indian soldiers have to pay the price for this senseless warmongering of their compatriots living in cities comfortably and foolish Indians blame us while disease in reality is in your nation.

If Indians want that their soldiers shouldn't die at LOC then they need to cure idiots like @Stephen Cohen. Your soldiers would stop losing their heads the day you cure the cancer in India as a nation. Cure your war mongering and save your soldiers. The equation is simple India.

Thank you for your Advise

You worry about your soldiers and your losses

We can take care of ourselves

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Want to save your soldiers?? Control your stupid aggression.

In Indian Army ; There is No shortage of Either manpower OR Firepower

If you want peace ; we will welcome it ; stop sending terrorists here

 

[Areesh]

Thank you for your Advise

You worry about your soldiers and your losses

We can take care of ourselves

Not advising. Just simplifying the situation for you sine you guys care a lot about your "jawans"

In every other TV program you guys whine about heads of your jawans and all that. So if you really want to save your soldiers, stop putting them in unnecessary harm.

I care about my soldiers that is why I don't say this senseless firing is necessary.

 

[[Bregs]]

This statement alone shows clearly that war mongers are on Indian side and not ours. Poor Indian soldiers have to pay the price for this senseless warmongering of their compatriots living in cities comfortably and foolish Indians blame us while disease in reality is in your nation.

If Indians want that their soldiers shouldn't die at LOC then they need to cure idiots like @Stephen Cohen. Your soldiers would stop losing their heads the day you cure the cancer in India as a nation. Cure your war mongering and save your soldiers. The equation is simple India.



You can never solve a problem when problem is inside you guys. You need to realize that problem is not other side of the border but you buys. You guys because of your continuous war mongering are the biggest threat to your jawans.

Want to save your soldiers?? Control your stupid aggression.

Likewise i can say its pak supported radicals who cause terror first, but this tu tu mein wont take us any where and i never indulge in it, strict ceasefire and later some sort of working trust might reveal some solutions

 

[Areesh]

In Indian Army ; There is No shortage of Either manpower OR Firepower

Statement is clear. You don't care about Paramjit. You don't care about Prem Sagar. You don't care about Hemraj.

You care about your war mongering and your ego that gets busted every now andthen on LOC.

Likewise i can say its pak supported radicals who cause terror first, but this tu tu mein wont take us any where and i never indulge in it, strict ceasefire and later some sort of working trust might reveal some solutions

There are no Pakistan supported radicals. You with you policies have made people of IOk your enemies. Even a 5 year old kid hates you and your forces. Pakistan is not responsible for that. You and your policies are responsible.