Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[Super Falcon]

well time have came to hand over these birds ti navy and let them upgrade it for more advanced naval systems

 

[cobra309]

mirages of paf are now outdated but still have the capability to diliver heavy amount of guided and unguided munitions in indian territory with ifr aid. But they lack the capabilities of air defence. So they cant be considerd as multirole, but a best bomber of today.

 

[muse]

I think we are just too fixated on the idea of Multi-role --- most of us do not understand this, to my thinking, sometimes dangerous idea. Multi-role is an idea more closely related to costs than capabilites .

 

[mymeaningislion]

i have a question can we change intakes of mirages with DSI.......i know it is awkward but plz anyone can answer. i think it will increase stealth and performance............and very informatve tread. blessings to all.....

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Why to do so man !
we have some how kept these old machines flying and Rose upgrade are something valuable for mirage. theres nothing more can be done with these old machines rather then replacement.

even i asked an Mirage-5 pa3 pilot "why PAF never opted for Canard Mirage" but he didn't reply because a valuable person "Sir. Kaisar Tufail" stated "Canards provide lift but you have to pay the penalty of drag and some weight, which a thrust-limited Mirage III/5 cannot cope with."

 

[fatman17]

im sure everyone knows what ROSE stands for = RETROFIT OF STRIKE ELEMENT. this shd give a clue as to the role of the ROSE mirages (Day/night capability) - i'm sure F-16s wld fly CAP for them when they are used for strikes.

 

[madooxno9]

mirages of paf are now outdated but still have the capability to diliver heavy amount of guided and unguided munitions in indian territory with ifr aid. But they lack the capabilities of air defence. So they cant be considerd as multirole, but a best bomber of today.

You have no idea what you are writing ......i hope you will start learning fast to catch up....

 

[cobra309]

most cabable sqns of paf mirages are configured for ground attack role , this bird have a power to lift suitable armt and a reasonable strike range which can be enhanced by ifr. So they can strike deep in india. But they have to be escorted by bvr equiped jf17 or the f7pg. As for as air defence is concerned they lack bvr capability for long range engagments and lack monuverability for wvr dogfight. So i think they can perform the role of grnd attack best.

 

[Dazzler]

most cabable sqns of paf mirages are configured for ground attack role , this bird have a power to lift suitable armt and a reasonable strike range which can be enhanced by ifr. So they can strike deep in india. But they have to be escorted by bvr equiped jf17 or the f7pg. As for as air defence is concerned they lack bvr capability for long range engagments and lack monuverability for wvr dogfight. So i think they can perform the role of grnd attack best.

They DO have BVR capability that came with the addition of Grifo M3 radar as well as an appropriate BVR weapon.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

^ ya we know that Mirage 3 are BVR capable and also P.Shamim showed the Pakistani R-Darter version long time ago. but to me seeing is believing.
as you stated once in this thread that mirage 3 were fitted with IRST. i thought "when and how Pakistan made IRST and for mirage ?? " but recently after watching the picture of ISRT POD of mirage 3 made by Pakistan, i am totally surprised. Now i believe that BVR missile mystery of Mirrage 3 is some how true but still want to see a mirage loaded with BVR missile.

 

[cobra309]

mirages are not at all bvrm equiped nor paf wants to equip this one. They have stand off capability in form of h2,h4 weapons and raad cruise missiles. But all are 4 grnd attack. Bvr capability does not come by just instaling a bvr capable radar, a lot of other modification is required to make a bird bvr equiped.

 

[Dazzler]

mirages are not at all bvrm equiped nor paf wants to equip this one. They have stand off capability in form of h2,h4 weapons and raad cruise missiles. But all are 4 grnd attack. Bvr capability does not come by just instaling a bvr capable radar, a lot of other modification is required to make a bird bvr equiped.

Do us all a favor, please read this thread from page 1 than step in with your guns. Thanks

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

mirages are not at all bvrm equiped nor paf wants to equip this one. They have stand off capability in form of h2,h4 weapons and raad cruise missiles. But all are 4 grnd attack. Bvr capability does not come by just instaling a bvr capable radar, a lot of other modification is required to make a bird bvr equiped.

also go through a few starting pages of this thread
http://www.defence.pk/forums/wmd-missiles/28713-h2-h4-aam-agm.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/22638-avionics-mirage-rose-upgrade.html

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Strange Gray Camouflage probably the Australian paint scheme.

Pakistan - Air Force GAF Mirage IIIO(A) at Masroor AB Pakistan, February 6, 2001

 

[ziaulislam]

I read some where these mirages are actually SUB SONIC ie cannot acheive mach 1.

In other words the first super sonic mirage was the F1 which flew in the 1970s 10 years after the mirage 5

Also that even TODAY PAF deploys over 170 mirage 3/5 AS PART of its FRONTLINE FLEET.

pac HAVE DONE very well to stil keep them flying after 40 years of service

mirages outmatched mig21 in the 70s..as mig21 was supersonic so dont be surprised if mirages are supersonic..after mig19 nearly every aircrft has been supersonic..