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Can Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia form a security alliance?

Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Sudan, UAE, Egypt, Kuwait, Qatar, Yemen, Bahrain and Jordan.

Add to that list Tunisia, Lebanon, Somalia, Comoros, Palestine, Mauritania, Djibouti and Libya.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Military_Alliance

The only Arab countries that are missing are Oman (which is always neutral under the current Sultan but by virtue of being an fellow GCC member state and neighbor they will always side with KSA if things spice up), Syria (Al-Assad regime in other words that is most likely on loan and which does not even control 50% of Syria currently and has zero legitimacy left), Iraq (no need for any explanation here) and Algeria (the military junta in power do not reflect our Algerian brothers and sisters - a visit to any Arab forum will confirm this as well as personal interaction with our Algerian brothers and sisters) which is not much.

Besides in recent weeks relations with the military junta in Algeria have improved. Leading Saudi Arabian and Qatari generals visited Algeria recently as well as state representatives.

سفير خادم الحرمين الشريفين في الجزائر يستضيف إجتماع سفراء المجموعة العربية في مقر إقامته
آخر تحديث: 15/01/1438 06:02 م
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سعادة السفير د. سامي بن عبدالله الصالح و سفراء الدول العربية

إستضاف سعادة سفير خادم الحرمين الشريفين لدى الجزائر الدكتور/ سامي بن عبد الله الصالح الإجتماع الدوري لسفراء الدول العربية المعتمدين في الجزائر، وتمّ خـلال هذا الإجتماع بحث كافة السّبل الممكنة للتعاون وتنسيق وتوحيد المواقف في البلد المضيف بما يحقق مصالح دول المجموعة العربية بشكل عـام، وقد تلى هذا الإجتماع إقامة مأدبة غـداء في إقامة سعادته.

http://embassies.mofa.gov.sa/sites/...icMission/MissionNews/Pages/news15011438.aspx



Forget about the regimes in power today or those that will arrive tomorrow. Blood is thicker than water and the destiny of the Arab world is shared by us all. We need to reach out to everyone and cooperate for the betterment of us all. We face the same problems. This is also the wish of the Arab street everywhere but politics tend to create nonsense issues (overall). Once representative regimes are in power I have no doubt that we will not see 90% of the current nonsense any longer. However you first need to start at home. Goes for everyone.
 
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If the Arab folks don't want to see tanks inside the Haremain they better do it fast. Hopefully they have still some positive intelligence left in them to recognize the impending dangers...

I m all for it...Such a powerful alliance will have its own unique importance....make it in shape of economic and military alliance....prospects are mouth watering then....

No Thanks.

It's going to be a continuation of master-slave relationship with the Saudis. Not interested in helping the Wahabis anymore.

U are such deep shit that u view everything from sect prism...Sorry, majority of Pakistanis are not like that....Pakistani troops are already in SA...

ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME TURKEY AND PAKISTAN AND SAUDI ARABIA AND QATAR FORM AN ALLIANCE
 
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Turkey and Saudi Arabia are unsuited to be allies; as much as both have anti-Iranian views.
They may cooperate against Iran in places like Syria and Iraq where they simply ensure not to get in each other's way; but in terms of a single worldview these two are poles apart despite Erdogan's change to the politik of Turkey.

All Muslims in the world have love for Saudi Arabia. Only sectarian regime in Iran and their followers got problem with them and let me clear your doubts--Pakistanis hold great respect for Harmain Sharifain.


Look how many people showed up when Imam e Kaaba visited the capital city of the most populated province in Pakistan.

Pakistanis have respect for the harmain.. please do not generalise based on your opinions or that of your social circle.

The Saudis can have a partying prince in power who openly talks trash of Pakistan and yet any call regarding issues with Mecca and Medina will be answered.
That is the greatest asset the Saudis have captured and they use the prestige it brings to good effect. The oil does not even come close to the soft power of these two holy cities.

The same way, the Iranians have monopolised on the political economy of the Shi'a phenomenon and use it to their good effect. Their interests at core have little to do with any aspirations for "Muslim" leadership and lie at ensuring the security of the Persian people by creating a friendly buffer zone around the their Mullah regime.
 
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U are such deep shit that u view everything from sect prism...Sorry, majority of Pakistanis are not like that....Pakistani troops are already in SA...

ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME TURKEY AND PAKISTAN AND SAUDI ARABIA AND QATAR FORM AN ALLIANCE

Alliance against who? What is an alliance for? Alliances require a common enemy. Who is the enemy? We have only one enemy - and that's India. Will an Arab ever die to protect Pakistan from India?

I'm not viewing from a sectarian pov. I come form a Sunni background myself, though I don't personally identify with any sect.

I'd like to distance ourselves form KSA. Not common Arab people, but the royals. They have royally screwed us for the last few decades, funding spread of Salafism and all that comes with it. $cums.
 
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The Arabs and the Turks have parallel histories and culture despite being rooted deeply in Islam. Both have laid claim to be centres of Islam in different time periods.
I don't think this is going to workout
 
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and this Shia Sunni is a reality. If you are a Sunni you will never marry in a Shia family and vice versa. So that Muslim unity is long gone.

I'm sunni. In my extended family there are equal numbers of sunni and shias. Many of my cousins are shias and we see zero divide among ourselves.

I think you don't know what you are posting.
 
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So basically an alliance of former US allies coming together to confront US..
 
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i never trust saudi they sold iraq off by givng base to usa while iran collaberated with usa to turn in resistance and kill sunni undercover assinations now iran has iraq as its state. both of these are demons working for zion interest. i promise you they will stab u in the back if they get the chance.

saudis were put there by british rothschilds. the sell oil for dollar = petro-dollar = misery for muslim world and usury, instead of halal currency.

ayotollah seriously do you think france would allow this lone mullah to come on a plane and perform revolution lol they would have blown the plane up, unless he was thier intel asset. maybe he went rogue for france and rest imperialist countries and once he got power they couldnt get rid of him.

turkey great people = but years of brainwashing secularism, has made turks look towards west
turkey is deep state zion controlled, mustafa kemal a crypto jew ruled turkey and applied changes.
 
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Can Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia form a security alliance?
MOHAMMAD PERVEZ BILGRAMI
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Alliance between Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan can gradually reduce the meddling of outside powers and guide the region toward durable peace and lasting stability
With its long history of managing the affairs of a transcontinental empire, Turkey would ideally prefer to handle regional affairs with a regionally-crafted security alliance, without any meddling from Western hegemonic powers.

The failed coup attempt in mid-July has once again put the planners in Turkey to rethink the trajectory for the country's future course of action because of various terrorism and security threats posed not only by openly hostile forces but also by so-called allies in Europe and within NATO.

NEITHER AMERICANS NOR RUSSIANS

Turkey has to make the decision as to whether to carry on with its alliance with the dangerously unpredictable, foolish and dishonest United States and its international enterprises such as NATO and the EU or perhaps align with the Russians and Chinese bloc. Turkey's third alternative can be a regional security alliance with countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Apart from the issues surrounding the recent coup attempt and the direct and indirect role of the U.S. in it, Turks were already frustrated with the various U.S. schemes in Eurasia in the last few years. The U.S. and its stooges are working against Turkey's interests. The failed coup attempt has indeed alerted the Turkish policy makers and people to American duplicity and hostile plots. U.S. policies in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Caucasus and the Balkans are designed to harm Turkey's interests. Keeping this whole picture in mind, one can foresee that Turkey's relations with the U.S. will not remain as they used to be.

It is also quite unlikely that in the long run Turkey's rapprochement with Russia will be a game-changer in the regional geopolitics. It is important to note that Russians also prefer brutal dictators over democratically-elected governments in Islamic countries. Russia's unwavering support to Syrian dictator Basher Assad and Russian President Vladimir Putin's strong backing to Egypt's coup leader Abdel Fattah el-Sissi are well known. Therefore, Turkey cannot remain dependent on the U.S. or Russia to pursue its regional policies. Turkey needs to establish a far-sighted military alliance of regional powers.

In the present situation, Egypt, run by an atrocious junta regime, cannot be considered a feasible partner for such an alliance. Iran is trying to create a greater Persian Empire and is in direct confrontation with the Sunni Muslims in the region. The rulers in Tehran have repeatedly shown that they have no principles but only a sectarian agenda.

Suffice it to say that Saudi Arabia has been a major component of the counterrevolution bloc in the Arab world, contrary to Turkey's policy which has been favorable toward pro-people change in the region. It must also be pointed out that Saudi policies in favor of Western invaders have contributed to regional stability. The American invasion of Iraq and the subsequent U.S. neocon and Zionist collaboration in letting Iran extend its hegemony over a great Arab country could not happen without Saudi Arabia's mindless policies that favored Western intervention. The Saudis still fail to understand the dangers posed by the U.S., even though the American system clearly aims to target Saudi Arabia.

It is also true that the Saudi-backed junta regime in Egypt will be the biggest stumbling block in the smooth operability of a grand regional alliance. It is Saudi Arabia's responsibility alone to fix the past mistakes and develop a new thinking without wasting time. Though the Saudis are going through an economic slowdown due to plunging oil prices, they still posses a strong financial muscle. Saudi Arabia is increasingly anxious because of U.S. dealings with the Iranians. To remain relevant in the emerging regional power structure, Saudis must be able to trust a country like Turkey because of common interests and the goodwill that exists at both government and social level.

On the other hand, Pakistan is slowly coming out of the U.S.'s tentacles. Pakistan's not so good relation with the U.S. simply means that Pakistan also wants other regional powers on its side after developing a deep-rooted strategic relation with China.

Pakistan is the only declared nuclear power among these three countries and can also work as Turkey's direct window to emerging global power and economic powerhouse China. Possibilities of many new global multilateral relationships, independent of the U.S., will emerge if Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia can come together to tackle the emerging new global situation.

Pakistan has decades of strategic relations with Saudi Arabia and it has also developed very strong and diversified relations with Turkey in the last few years. Turkey has also become one of the major defense exporters to Pakistan. Pakistan is already in close coordination with Turkey on Middle Eastern issues. When Saudi Arabia asked for Pakistan's military help in its Yemen offensive, the leadership in Pakistan swiftly started to follow the Turkish advice on whether to directly take part in military operations in Yemen or not. Looking back, it is clear the Saudi move in Yemen was not well-planned, although there was a need to prevent Iranian dangerous maneuvers in Yemen.

Turkey has long been a member of the U.S.-led North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) alliance and Pakistan has recently become the member of China-Russia-led rival bloc the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). Majority of Saudi Arabia's oil export goes to the main protagonists of these two rival military blocs. This makes Turkey and Pakistan along with Saudi Arabia a good combination in the geopolitics of the greater Middle East.

STRONG ECONOMY, STRONG ALLIANCE FOR THE REGION

It must also be monitored very carefully that decades of American meddling in the region should not be replaced with the intrusion of another outside power or a foreign military block. The foreign meddling of imperial powers has had a catastrophic effect on the region. Turkey will have to make sure that such a void should not be filled by the any other outside power in the region and for that it should work towards creating a strong military bloc starting with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Other regional countries can join the alliance later.

Some countries in the region may not be able to digest the idea of this regional military alliance and they may thus try to preserve the role of outside foreign powers in the regional security architecture. This issue needs to be noted and appropriately dealt with using all means.

Once this alliance is strengthened, the Saudi-led military solidarity group of OIC member states can be merged with it. Turkey possesses the necessary capacity and experience to work as a moderator of such an alliance and it is the only country capable of reducing the menace of sectarianism in the region. Turkey can check the Iranian sectarian influence and can also temperate Saudi Arabia's course of action.

The alliance's combined military hardware inventory is quite sophisticated. Its military is well trained and battle hardened and the intelligence system is quite capable to counter global threats. Their combined economy will create incentives for cooperation. Turkey will have to work as an anchor for this broad based strategic alliance. This military and economic alliance can gradually reduce the meddling of outside powers and guide the region toward durable peace and lasting stability.

http://www.dailysabah.com/op-ed/201...tan-and-saudi-arabia-form-a-security-alliance


Would be more feasible if it were Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia & Iran but alas Turkey and the Saudis don't trust Iran. Wheras we get along with all 3.
 
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I'm sunni. In my extended family there are equal numbers of sunni and shias. Many of my cousins are shias and we see zero divide among ourselves.

I think you don't know what you are posting.

I know what I am posting and I know what people around me in my family and extended family think about these inter sect marriages. I cant talk on behalf of every Tom dick n harry but as far as my own experiences are concerned majority do judge the faith of the man or woman first before making such decisions.
 
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