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Can Congress + Allies pull of 2019?

A very good thread, hope it can be made a sticky now that the main Indian Political thread has been hijacked by a professional troll.

The only realistic chance that Congress has in the entire Hindi heartland + Maharashtra is by being a junior member of another Mahagathbandhan. That is not even up for debate anymore and hence it makes their choices clear.

In fact, I actually think that it is impossible for SP, BSP & Congress to go without a coalition especially in UP. What such a coalition has going for them, is a ready-made votebank of Muslims, who form 30% of the electorate & who will vote for them without asking any uncomfortable questions.

On their part, BJP have their work cut out for them.
- Go on the offensive in the media management.
- Make corruption the central theme of the elections again by highlighting the UPA scams (extraditing Mallya in time could certainly help!).
- Don't make any mistakes of your own in the run up (like Jay Shah, although no illegality has been proven).
- Consolidate your own votebank + bring more OBC's and Dalits.
- Divide the opposition (I think they need to start pandering to the Shia).

But if BJP gets complacent and thinks that UP (and by extension, the elections overall) will be a walk-over, they will only have another nasty surprise waiting for them like in Bihar.
 
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I would go easy on lose versus loose

Sure, but the point still stands. how can BJP 'lose' something that was never theirs?

But if BJP gets complacent and thinks that UP (and by extension, the elections overall) will be a walk-over, they will only have another nasty surprise waiting for them like in Bihar.

Bihar was a great lesson for BJP.
Yogi was made specially for the scenario where SP + BSP + Cong get together.

No matter what kind of development BJP does in UP, if these 3 parties get together, unless polarization happens, they have little chance of winning well.

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This is from Kerala. BJP's target for Kerala is not a one time short term goal.
This is a long term strategy. At the end of the day BJP will force all the other parties to choose sides, either be pro-Hindus or anti.

For Hindus of Kerala, it's a win win.
 
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An Excellent article. Keys will be UP & MH. With 130 seats and an alliance in the flux, they make or break 2019 elections.

https://dynastycrooks.wordpress.com/2017/10/12/key-to-2019-maharashtra-and-uttar-pradesh/

It is really too early to start crunching numbers for 2019, but it is becoming clear what the main pegs on the chessboard are.

As much as we political nerds might wish, the public isn’t always thinking about elections. Right now, they are in a state of flux, evaluating the performance of their government, talking to their neighbors, trying to see if they are better or worse off than before. Of course, in the final six months, the election will “break” decisively in favor of one party.

So at the moment we can only get a sense of what are the big pieces on the board and which pieces to control.

In reality it is not two but three states that hold the key to the election : Gujarat, Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh. I didn’t include Gujarat in the headline because BJP is sure to dominate the state in 2019.

Here are the basic numbers :

UP (80 seats)

Maharashtra (50 seats)

Gujarat (27 seats)

If the numbers look wrong, that’s because I am counting the two Goa seats with Maharashtra and Diu seat (which is a union territory) as part of Gujarat.

Together, this adds up to almost 160 seats. For Modi, this is where the foundation for 2019 will come from.

Right now, the BJP is sitting on nearly 125 of these 160 seats. A repeat or even near repeat of this performance, say even 105 of these 160 seats will almost guarantee a Modi government in 2019.

Of course Modi and Shah are looking after Gujarat directly. Not much to worry there. Ultimately, the prestige of having a PM who is so closely identified with Gujarat will prevail over incumbency issues.

Let’s look at Uttar Pradesh now. After the historic 3/4 majority in March this year, it seemed that a Mahagathbandhan would be formed immediately. When Yogi Adityanath was pushed into the CM post (ahead of Keshav Maurya), I said that it was a desperate move. The upcoming Yadav + Muslim + Jatav mahagathbandhan left BJP with no choice but to clearly pit the 80% vs the 20%.

Six months later, there is no sign of the mahagathbandhan. Mayawati tried to make a splash with a dramatic resignation, but she has achieved little more than receding further into oblivion. On the ground, Akhilesh Yadav has proved to be at least 10 times more listless as an opposition than I expected. He still seems to be licking his wounds, unable to recover from the scale of the defeat.

As a dynast, Akhilesh is likely inherently lazy. Whatever Mahagathbandhan they are working on, I see nowhere near the energy nor the urgency that two self made leaders: Laloo and Nitish showed in Bihar.

This does not mean that a grand alliance won’t be formed in UP, just that Yogi is facing a slightly easier battle than I expected.

The other state that is going absolutely great for BJP is Maharashtra. Fadnavis seems to have put himself very firmly in the saddle. One must remember that BJP was a perennial number 4 in Maharashtra … and the ride to No. 1 has been a long one. Especially considering the nature of Maharashtra : power in the state has always been held by satraps at the very local level … and the one who rules from Mumbai is the one who can secure the loyalty of maximum number of these feudal lords.

It is with this in mind that BJP has worked constantly to “dissolve” NCP within itself at the grassroots. This is mostly about talking to the local feudal lords and offering them a deal they can’t refuse.

I know that many BJP supporters will be disappointed with the inclusion of Narayan Rane. But that’s politics. He brings with himself multiple pockets of support in Konkan region. Every additional vote in Maharashtra matters now, especially because we simply can’t count on the Shiv Sena.

Ever since 2014, Fadnavis has been on a mission to win local elections and has done exceptionally well in this. He won 9/10 of the cities earlier this year and made BJP the number 1 party in Zila Parishads. There was some hope on the secular side that the BJP would struggle in rural Maharashtra, but the Gram Panchayat results have poured cold water all over that.

But pockets remain. Today as I write, the BJP has been beaten black and blue in Nanded, the den of Ashok Chavan. I think the results turned out something like Congress 58 and BJP 2. Yes, Nanded is like another Amethi, only worse because Nanded has a huge Muslim population. But it shows that pockets remain where the Congress is just as strong as it was 50 years ago.

It is nearly impossible to predict an election 18 months in advance. But it is generally easy to identify the “dominant” player. We cannot say with certainty who will win an election on a given day, but we know who will win more “on average”. From independence till 2014, the Congress always had more MLAs in state assemblies than BJP. Yes, the Congress lost some elections, but we know they always dominated.

Like a game at the casino. We know that in the long run, the casino always wins. But that doesn’t mean you can’t have a good day when you win at the casino.

18 months before the Lok Sabha polls, it is too early to count seats. The strategy has to be focused on denying the Congress a chance to become “dominant”. Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh have always been the Congress’ 2 “reservoir states”, which gave them a respectable number of seats. The Congress is already finished in Andhra Pradesh. If Fadnavis can blank them out in Maharashtra, the Congress will never be dominant player in Indian politics again.
 
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Will 2019 Lok Sabha elections see a repeat of 2004 elections for BJP?


I am an Indian who just hopes to see my nation developed and be respected as a global power. I strategically support BJP, as I don’t see any hope in any other political party. I see a lost opportunity for BJP as a lost opportunity for us as a nation.

With this background, let’s try to understand the undercurrents of electoral politics in India, and then we could take a look at the challenges for 2019.

2004 marked the end of NDA rule and beginning of UPA. Even after putting India onto growth track, even after repaying most of the foreign debts the country had, even after winning strategic wars against Pakistan, NDA lost people’s mandate. What UPA had to offer, at that juncture to get into power? Did it have a promising leader? No. Did it offer solutions to the problems? No. Then, how did it win?

Its success lies in not getting mandate for itself, rather in ‘BJP not getting support’.

I have a simple model to propose. Whenever there is a change in the system that comes out of itself, it’s due to ‘Hope that the change will be good’. To relate it to the electoral system, if a group of people or a country supports a change in regime, its driven by the ‘Hope’ that next one is going to be better. If a system continues as is, it’s due to ‘Support it gets from within’.

In other words, if a country votes to stay under the same regime, it only means Trust over the current one is outweighing the Hope generated by the change.

Having said that, in 2004, was the Trust on BJP government lower than the Hope created by UPA? Not in entirety. Another factor that plays a key role in dynamics of Trust and Hope is ‘Inactiveness’ (inactivity). In a democracy, number is power. More the number, more power it has. Any political party which is active in politics has to strategize in such a way to turn ‘Hope’ or ‘Trust’ factor to be advantageous towards it. The third factor is an enabling factor, which can make wonders.

Reasons? ‘Hope’ and ‘Trust’ are actually passive factors, which certainly show the ‘mood’ of the country. But ‘Activeness (~Inactiveness)’ would make the factor count on the day of election by making the support base go out and vote. Out of these three factors, ‘Hope’ factor can influence ‘Inactiveness’ if the magnitude of ‘Hope’ is very high.

We saw this in 2014, ‘Hope’ factor was the ‘Modi Wave’, which influenced people to go to voting booths and cast their vote. The existence of ‘Hope’ was clear from early days of 2013, even before BJP officially announced Modi to be the PM candidate. Strategically, to counter this ‘Hope’ factor by dividing it, other ‘Hopes’ were tried by the opposing forces. Remember AAP fighting in most of the constituencies? Nitish Kumar was being compared with Modi?

What roles did these factors play in 2009? 2009 marked end of UPA-1 and incumbent government getting ‘Support’ from electoral and returning to power as UPA-2. What BJP had to offer? Almost nothing BJP did that raised ‘Hope’ factor. All UPA-1 had to do is just manage ‘Trusted’ voters and keep them happy and they could easily return to power. The statistics of the election clearly show this.

Let’s take a look at 2004, which is very important in the current situation. In 2004, India was in a better condition than it was in 1999. Major infrastructure projects were announced and were being constructed. Major projects like Chandrayan, Delhi Metro were conceived in that era. Ideally, the ‘good governance’ should have risen ‘Trust’ factor, shouldn’t have it? From opposition side, was there any significant ‘Hope’? No. Then what was the reason for NDA losing 2004?

‘Inactiveness’ of people on ‘Trust’ side; these people didn’t vote. Voter turnout was lower than previous elections. Result: India lost couple of decades of growth opportunity. China took over as global power, whereas India became a peripheral player. Indian economy lost steam, Corruption rose and financial losses skyrocketed.

Why 2004 is important as we approach 2019?

Now sooner than we think, we will be in a similar situation. 2019 is closer and its proximity is getting clearer from the noise we hear in the media. Again, back to the game of these factors, how parties or government influence these factors? Using means of advertising, using media (Mass media and Social), grass root workers (block management, booth management etc). Parties in power would like to enhance the ‘Trust’ base and Opposition would work on raising ‘Hope’ base. It doesn’t end there; the third factor will have to be managed, in order to make the base turn into votes.

If they can’t raise ‘Hope’ of people, opposition will have a higher hand if they manage to make the ‘Trust’ base of ruling party to be inactive. This is where the propaganda machine comes handy.

Well oiled ecosystem nourished from past 70 years, by delegating supporters into key roles and plum posts, Congress had made sure that it has some basic skeleton of the machine running all the time, no matter who is in power. These supporters are also sleeper cells, which can be activated on need basis. The machinery also has an ability to maintain ability itself; which makes sure that, people with similar mindset are replacing the old ones.

I just used a term Congress, as it’s easy to denote this ecosystem with Congress. But, Congress weakening gradually over 20 or so years, still is able to run the ecosystem, helped by the fact that it had run governments for two consecutive terms even when the party was not as strong as earlier. It makes me think, there could be bigger enemies (or powers) than Congress who are oiling this machine. Global financing to this machinery cannot be ruled out, but I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Let’s take a look at the current challenges. 2014 marked a phenomenal win for the ‘Hope’. Now in 2019, NDA (BJP) would be seeking mandate in support for its governance from 2014 till election. Many states have either NDA or BJP rule; this may turn to be a liability for BJP than being advantageous. People’s dislike towards the state governments in major states ruled by BJP may adversely impact 2019 plans.

Good old judicial system (also caters to ecosystem), which has grown into a parallel but shadow government with no accountability; may wreck havoc by just pronouncing few judgments against ‘Trust’ base of NDA. Back to back judgments like Cracker Ban during Diwali, allowing Muslims to marry girls below 18 years of age, terming human rights of Illegal Rohingya occupants to be as important as national security are few examples to mention.

Propaganda machine is running at its best capacity currently. Narratives being built, such as ‘economy is in bad shape’, ‘GST is making people pay more’ or ‘Amit Shah’s son is corrupt’ and being repeated multiple times and shared across multiple media to make it an established ‘Truth’. (Remember Bangaru Laxman’s and George Fernandes framed before 2004 and propaganda machine was successful in drawing conclusion that Congress or BJP, all of them are equally corrupt).

Remember, these propaganda are not to establish ‘Hope’ base for Congress, it is for pushing ‘Trust’ base of BJP towards inactiveness. You will be hammered with much such propaganda in near future and repeatedly so. It will be endlessly repeated, till you hang your head in shame for supporting ‘Desh ka gunehgar BJP’ and refrain from voting for it. That’s the whole strategy being worked out.

If you are observing the mood on social media, they are also succeeding in this mission to some extent. How can I say so surely? I have seen many staunch supporters of BJP, turning pessimistic slowly. Another hint, Congress is finally getting ready to elevate Rahul Gandhi to be President of the party. If it doesn’t see hope, it will not waste another important move.

I don’t see a case where BJP supporters would go out and vote for Congress. What I fear is; silent majority of BJP supporters may choose to sit at home in 2019 and the cost India will have to pay for that mistake will be really huge.
 
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Bengali's would be first grade morons to vote mamata into power again!
However dead the communist idea is,they did far better than mamata.

As far as AP is concerned Congress won't get a single seat for another two decades(with lot of luck). YSR still has not managed create traction at rural level...considering CBN performance is only mediocre...TDP will scrape through in the next election.
 
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Bengali's would be first grade morons to vote mamata into power again!
However dead the communist idea is,they did far better than mamata.

As far as AP is concerned Congress won't get a single seat for another two decades(with lot of luck). YSR still has not managed create traction at rural level...considering CBN performance is only mediocre...TDP will scrape through in the next election.

WB will see a lot of changes before 2019.
Wait for Mukul Roy to strike back.

In AP, Congress is finished. There is nothing left for that party in that state.
 
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