Burma is for Buddhists

[Judge]

What are you talking about?

Burma is a secular country and a multicultural (religiously) country. KSA is neither. Huge difference. KSA is similar to the Vatican. Just much, much bigger.

Instead of talking about KSA or Brunei that have nothing to do with the news then people that are supposedly in favor of what you talk about, should condemn what the Burmese regime is doing.

This is nothing compared to the rumored massacres of Muslims.

What part of this statement did you not understand?

Because per the OP, Myanmar is putting in place laws against Muslims.

Myanmar does not count the Rohingyas as citizens. So I dont know what the problem for the OP is. If you are okay with discriminatory laws in favour of Islam in KSA, then you should also be okay with discriminatory laws against Muslims in Myanmar.

Oh and Myanmar is making laws against non-citizens. It considers Rohingyas as illegal immigrants and wants them out. By hook or crook.

 

[ashok mourya]

Myanmar Christians (in this picture Kachins from the State of Kachin, Myanmar) defy Buddhists Ruling Nation.

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http://www.irrawaddy.org/burma/court-ac ... dhism.html

Radical Buddhist Country Burma does not allow visitors for New Zealander who was detained for his expression. Their laws are extremely bias and discriminatory to other religions and people causing discrimination on minorities and beyond.
http://www.mizzima.com/mizzima-news/mya ... ays-friend

Any other religion OR faith that is NOT Buddhist is subject to discrimination and can be force to convert into Buddhism sometimes at gun point or jailed (discriminative laws) even drive/push OUT of Burma not to mention if live within Burma will never achieve/success to the highest level FOR LIFE!
http://www.mmtimes.com/index.php/nation ... ament.html
Now since the militants and their military mindset are now legal rulers both covertly and overtly, even marriage can be affected in a discriminatory fashion proposed by Buddhist Monks...... applied and imposed by Buddhist Rulers. Burma is in the process of militant way of reform tainting democracy in an insultive way. Truth is transparent and cannot be hidden nor change. Truth is forever permanent and never compromise. Truth will one day set the Christians free from persecution for Truth is JUSTICE.
Persecution of Christians in Buddhist Burma (not British Burma).
http://www.worldwatchlist.us/world-watc ... mar-burma/
http://wrfnet.org/resources/2012/09/for ... enry-lyann
http://barnabasfund.org/pdfdocs/Christians_in_Burma.pdf
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/a ... /31818.htm

Good going burma, at least one nation standing ffor budhism.....

 

[al-Hasani]

How did that happened??

do not tell me that those people voluntarily accepted Islam, if that is the case there is no such thing as gazwas in the Islamic history.

The doctrine is to force the beliefs and then take care of the next generation by brainwashing from the childhood onwards. The new generation will take care of the next generation ans the ideology remains in tact.

How did "India" become Hindu?

I am not interested in your nonsense and will not waste further time on such posts.

What part of this statement did you not understand?


Myanmar does not count the Rohingyas as citizens. So I dont know what the problem for the OP is. If you are okay with discriminatory laws in favour of Islam in KSA, then you should also be okay with discriminatory laws against Muslims in Myanmar.

Oh and Myanmar is making laws against non-citizens. It considers Rohingyas as illegal immigrants and wants them out. By hook or crook.

You seem not to understand that the comparisons make no sense nor have they anything to do with the topic. Your fellow compatriot already embarrassed himself for all to see. There will probably be more as usual.

 

[Judge]

You seem not to understand that the comparisons make no sense nor have they anything to do with the topic. Your fellow compatriot already embarrassed himself for all to see. There will probably be more as usual.

I am not a spokesman for all Indians. With 1.2 billion of us, one person can hardly do justice.

My point was quite simple - and it has nothing to do with KSA per se. Its a pity you are unable to grasp it. the point is about hypocrisy of the OP.

Let me explain it once again - and hopefully finally.
1. OP had a problem with Myanmar making laws discriminatory against Muslims.
2. OP however has never had a problem with KSA having discriminatory laws in favour of Muslims.

I am pointing out that since OP never had a problem with 'discriminatory laws' before. Its only when discriminatory laws against Muslims are being enacted(per the OP), he starts having fits. Do you see the hypocrisy or are you unable to see it?

 

[al-Hasani]

I do not care if you are interested or not, But the fact is Islamic History contains violence as a part of purification of Arabia which resembles what Myanmar monks are doing right now.

There were no massacres. People willingly converted to Islam. As in so many other places in the world. You know nothing about the history of Arabia, the Arab world and the ME as a whole. There were sizable Jewish and Christian minorities on the Arabian Peninsula for over a millennium of Islamic rule. Every 7th Israeli is a Yemeni Jew for instance and 50% of Israel's population is made up by Arab Jews or partial Arab Jews. Wonder where they suddenly came from if everyone was converted by the sword?

You are just another Hindu bigot that spreads nonsense. Wonder why PDF tolerates such behavior?

Please tell me how Hinduism spread in "India" while you are at it or about your religious conflicts that still exist to this day.

@Horus @WebMaster

The usual Indian trolls derailing another thread.

 

[Judge]

I do not care if you are interested or not, But the fact is Islamic History contains violence as a part of purification of Arabia which resembles what Myanmar monks are doing right now.

I have got to agree with Hasani on this one, Srinivas.

What is happening now has nothing to do with what Muslims of earlier ages did. And it is not right to spew venom because of that. Let it go.

 

[Srinivas]

I have got to agree with Hasani on this one, Srinivas.

What is happening now has nothing to do with what Muslims of earlier ages did. And it is not right to spew venom because of that. Let it go.

I am not spewing venom here, I am just reminding the muslims about those ages in which Gazwas used to take place on non believers settlements. I donot support the Mynmar monks violence on Rohginyas.

India gave these oppressed people asylum !!

 

[al-Hasani]

I am not a spokesman for all Indians. With 1.2 billion of us, one person can hardly do justice.

My point was quite simple - and it has nothing to do with KSA per se. Its a pity you are unable to grasp it. the point is about hypocrisy of the OP.

Let me explain it once again - and hopefully finally.
1. OP had a problem with Myanmar making laws discriminatory against Muslims.
2. OP however has never had a problem with KSA having discriminatory laws in favour of Muslims.

I am pointing out that since OP never had a problem with 'discriminatory laws' before. Its only when discriminatory laws against Muslims are being enacted(per the OP), he starts having fits. Do you see the hypocrisy or are you unable to see it?

KSA is the cradle of Islam. Burma is not the cradle of Buddhism.

Non-Muslims are not killed in KSA and are not nationals outside of a tiny, tiny minority.

In Burma indigenous Muslims are killed simply for being Muslims.

Burma has millions of Muslims and non-Buddhists that are NATIVE inhabitants of Burma. Not temporary workers or people who settled like in KSA (non-citizens).

KSA is not a secular country. Burma is.

This thread has nothing to do with KSA or Brunei.

No, I do not suppot all laws in KSA and would like to see some of them changed.

 

[haviZsultan]

How did "India" become Hindu?

I am not interested in your nonsense and will not waste further time on such posts.



You seem not to understand that the comparisons make no sense nor have they anything to do with the topic. Your fellow compatriot already embarrassed himself for all to see. There will probably be more as usual.

What part of this statement did you not understand?


Myanmar does not count the Rohingyas as citizens. So I dont know what the problem for the OP is. If you are okay with discriminatory laws in favour of Islam in KSA, then you should also be okay with discriminatory laws against Muslims in Myanmar.

Oh and Myanmar is making laws against non-citizens. It considers Rohingyas as illegal immigrants and wants them out. By hook or crook.

Al Hasani is like those overly proud Jews who go into fighting spirit the moment someone criticizes the current regime which Muhammed (SAW) himself does not like. It has got to do with living in a violent dictatorship which culls creative and modern thinking.

However in this case he has a point. Much more is expected out of a society which is secular than a society that has no such prtensions. We can expect Saudia to be like it is because its a theocracy almost solely based on the idea of Wahabi thought, not even the proper Islamic religion. It has laws where women can't drive even though Khadija (RA) was herself a business women.

Also do note this is all criticism for Saudi Arabia, so we do criticize the said country. But Hasani's point is we can expect beheadings and executions in Saudi Arabia but we would not expect Gujarat type riots in a country which claims it is secular. Big difference.

 

[al-Hasani]

Al Hasani is like those overly proud Jews who go into fighting spirit the moment someone criticizes the current regime which Muhammed (SAW) himself does not like. It has got to do with living in a violent dictatorship which culls creative and modern thinking.

However in this case he has a point. Much more is expected out of a society which is secular than a society that has no such prtensions. We can expect Saudia to be like it is because its a theocracy almost solely based on the idea of Wahabi thought, not even the proper Islamic religion. It has laws where women can't drive even though Khadija (RA) was herself a business women.

Also do note this is all criticism for Saudi Arabia, so we do criticize the said country. But Hasani's point is we can expect beheadings and executions in Saudi Arabia but we would not expect Gujarat type riots in a country which claims it is secular. Big difference.

Here comes the Arab/KSA obsessed resident clown writing unfounded nonsense as usual.

 

[Judge]

KSA is the cradle of Islam. Burma is not the cradle of Buddhism.

Non-Muslims are not killed in KSA and are not nationals outside of a tiny, tiny minority.

In Burma indigenous Muslims are killed simply for being Muslims.

Burma has millions of Muslims and non-Buddhists that are NATIVE inhabitants of Burma. Not temporary workers or people who settled like in KSA.

KSA is not a secular country. Burma is.

This thread has nothing to do with KSA or Brunei.

No, I do not suppot all laws in KSA and would like to see some of them changed.

That is good for you. I am however not criticizing or asking for KSA's laws to be changed. I dont care enough for that.

Being the cradle of a religion is not at all related to non tolerance of other religions.
Myanmar is secular now, but it is heading towards becoming a Budhist state. All it takes for a country to turn from Secular to x/y/z is a declaration of Parliament.

Myanmar says that the Muslims there (Rohingyas) are not indigenous, they are Bangladeshis who migrated and their progenies. So calling Rohingyas as indigenous is...unverified. Just like KSA does not give citizenship because a migrant had a child in KSA, the same way Myanmar claims Rohingyas are not Myanmar citizens.

While this thread has nothing to do with KSA or Brunei, it takes only the slightest bit of IQ to understand that I brought the two in as an analogy. It is YOU who is trying to drag KSA in further beyond that. I used KSA as an example of a country that has discriminatory laws that the OP has no problem with..and nothing beyond that.

I thought you would have understood this by now. If you are unable to comprehend yet, then either you are thick or being deliberately so.

 

[Srinivas]

Here comes the Arab/KSA obsessed resident clown writing unfounded nonsense as usual.

Dude exporting ideology and making Saudi Arabia as centre of their world is not enough, you have to respond when they are in need.

Giving asylum to Rohgyniyas is a good gesture rather than criticizing and doing nothing !!

 

[al-Hasani]

That is good for you. I am however not criticizing or asking for KSA's laws to be changed.

Being the cradle of a religion is not at all related to non tolerance of other religions.
Myanmar is secular now, but it is heading towards becoming a Budhist state. All it takes for a country to turn from Secular to x/y/z is a declaration of Parliament.

Myanmar says that the Muslims there (Rohingyas) are not indigenous, they are Bangladeshis who migrated and their progenies. So calling Rohingyas as indigenous is...unverified. Just like KSA does not give citizenship because a migrant had a child in KSA, the same way Myanmar claims Rohingyas are not Myanmar citizens.

While this thread has nothing to do with KSA or Brunei, I brought the two in as an analogy. It is YOU who is trying to drag KSA in further. I used KSA as an example of a country that has discriminatory laws..and nothing beyond that.

Yes, it does make a difference. Vatican being an example of that.

There is tolerance for other religions in KSA. Non-Muslims are free to practice their own religions inside their homes. It's just not allowed to propagandize other religions. Same case in the Vatican. Both KSA and the Vatican are centers of religion. Islam and Catholicism respectively and that's what's makes them unique.

Also how hard is it to understand that you are comparing apples to pears? I gave you plenty of arguments and examples of that being the case.

Rohingyas are indigenous Muslims. There has been a Muslim presence in what is now Burma since the first Arab merchants and sailors settled there.

Dude exporting ideology and making Saudi Arabia as centre of their world is not enough, you have to respond when they are in need.

Giving asylum to Rohgyniyas is a good gesture rather than criticizing and doing nothing !!

Another low IQ troll. KSA already hosts the biggest number of Rohingya refugees in the world. More than nearby Bangladesh.

 

[Judge]

Yes, it does make a difference. Vatican being an example of that.

There is tolerance for other religions in KSA. Non-Muslims are free to practice their own religions inside their homes. It's just not allowed to propagandize other religions.

Also how hard is it to understand that you are comparing apples to pears? I gave you plenty of arguments and examples of that being the case.

Rohingyas are Muslims. There has been a Muslim presence in what is now Burma since the first Arab merchants and sailors settled there.

No there is zero difference. Just because you declare one state to be secular and not the other does not mean it is morally okay to stop one religion and promote another.

This is a choice that people of Myanmar need to make - whether they wish to remain secular or not. And they are clearly making it clear they do not wish to remain a secular country. Myanmar considers the Rohingyas(who form a very very tiny minority) as non-citizens and migrants or descendants of migrants.

Myanmar has already made it clear that if these people continue to stay in Myanmar, they will be persecuted. Its upto these people to go away or face the consequences of staying.

The entire issue started with this - the OP had no problems with KSA enacting discriminatory laws in favour of Muslims in KSA, but has a problem with Myanmar enacting discriminatory laws against Muslims. This is called hypocrisy and apparently you are the only one who does not see it.

 

[Srinivas]

Another low IQ troll. KSA already hosts the biggest number of Rohingya refugees in the world. More than nearby Bangladesh.

Burmese Rohingya identification postponed in Saudi Arabia - Burma Times

The Saudis are hypocrites on Rohingya « Refugee Resettlement Watch

This is UNHCR report

UNHCR - Refugees Daily