British MP who supports Pak Kashmir stance detained by India like a criminal in Delhi airport

[Taimoor Khan]

LOL. punny Indians are jumping up and down for nothing of a news. Never heard about this woman tbh.


In real geopolitics, this is what is happening. UN chief, while on Pakistani soil.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1535025/i...no-scope-for-third-party-mediation-on-kashmir

On Sunday, Guterres, while discussing Pakistan and India's relations, had said: "We have taken position about the need for Security Council’s resolutions to be implemented for effective de-escalation."


"Another important aspect, which needs full respect of human rights and continental freedom in Jammu & Kashmir, is that people should have free movement as it has in Pakistan’s side. I hope this will also be achieved on the other side [India]. I have offered my good offices in relation to the situation and our position is that the Security Council’s resolutions be implemented," he added.


Guterres said that UN Military Observers Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) should be given free access, Indian Express reported.

"It is already there on the Pakistan side, and it should also be given on the other side," he said.

 

[hussain0216]

Who is stopping you to liberate Kashmir.

You have a powerful army and a charming handsome leader.

What you guys are waiting for. It might be 4th time lucky.

Both countries have become too strong

Look at last February, all India tried to do after 40 Indian soldiers got killed was put on a show for domestic consumption, instead it was humilated by Pakistan, got a Indian jet shot down and ended up shooting down it's own Indian helicopter killing 6 Indian officers

We support the Kashmiri people against the injustice being forced upon them and we support Indian Muslims, Indian minorities and secular Hindus who are standing up against increasing hindutva extremism spreading in India

 

[Taimoor Khan]

In Geo politics and Real Politics, UN is no more relevant.

Din't you get the Memo ?

Is it so? then why Indian establishment has been running pillar to pillar to get recognition for the permanent membership of the security council??

How does it sound when UN chief is telling you that India must give the kashmiries the same rights as enjoyed by the people of Azad Kashmir? lol

 

[Gadkari]

Is it so? then why Indian establishment has been running pillar to pillar to get recognition for the permanent membership of the security council??

How does it sound when UN chief is telling you that India must give the kashmiries the same rights as enjoyed by the people of Azad Kashmir? lol

India is today the 4th largest Economy and consist of 1/6th of all Humanity.

UN needs India to become relevant again.

LOL at UN 'chief'. Most Indian newspaper in India or anywhere in the world, did not even bother to report his comments. That is how relevant it is.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

India is today the 4th largest Economy and consist of 1/6th of all Humanity.

UN needs India to become relevant again.

LOL at UN 'chief'. Most Indian newspaper in India or anywhere in the world, did not even bother to report his comments. That is how relevant it is.

You didn't answer my question, why India is desperate to be part of the permanent member of UN security council, when as per you, UN is irrelevant? LOL

UN needs India? LOL. I never heard UN pleading to India to join the elite members of veto yielding country. lol

You lot got the itch to post and waste the bandwidth of this forum to talk about an unknown British MP, yet UN chief is irrelevant?

 

[Gadkari]

You didn't answer my question, why India is desperate to be part of the permanent member of UN security council, when as per you, UN is irrelevant? LOL

UN needs India? LOL. I never heard UN pleading to India to join the elite members of veto yielding country. lol

You lot got the itch to post and waste the bandwidth of this forum to talk about an unknown British MP, yet UN chief is irrelevant?

Because we want to make UN relevant again.

British MP being kicked out of India is FAR more news worthy than UN chief's irrelevant comment.

 

[terry5]

Job done by the lady ! Appreciated.
Kashmir again frontline news trending over the world .

Whole country in lockdown under occupation making western news

 

[Trailer23]

India denies entry to UK Labour MP Debbie Abrahams, critical of Indian Govt.​

India has denied entry to a UK Labour MP who was critical of the government's controversial decision to revoke Kashmir's special status last year.

17th Feb, 2020

Debbie Abrahams, who chairs a parliamentary group on Kashmir, said she was denied a standard e-visa at Delhi's Indira Gandhi airport.

Immigration officials did not explain the reason for their decision.

She expressed concern last year over India's move to revoke partial autonomy for the part of Kashmir it administers.

The decision to strip the state of its semi-autonomous powers was widely welcomed in India, but there has been some international opposition, particularly from liberal lawmakers.

Ms Abrahams, MP for Oldham East and Saddleworth, was travelling to India on a personal visit. After she landed in Delhi on Monday on an Emirates flight, she was told that her visa had been rejected.

"I'm prepared to let the fact that I've been treated like a criminal go, and I hope they will let me visit my family and friends," she said in a statement.

"An official took my passport and disappeared for about 10 minutes. When he came back, he was very rude and shouted at me to come with him," she said.

She was reportedly taken to a cordoned off area marked as a deportee cell.

"After lots of different immigration officials came to me, I tried to establish why the visa had been revoked and if I could get a 'visa on arrival' but no-one seemed to know," she said.

"So now I am just waiting to be deported, unless the Indian government has a change of heart."

Last August, Ms Abrahams wrote to the UK foreign secretary, saying the parliamentary group was "gravely concerned" about the decision to strip the disputed region of its special status, adding that it "betrayed the trust of the people of Jammu and Kashmir".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51531981

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

British MP being kicked out of India is FAR more news worthy than UN chief's irrelevant comment

Yet the UN Chief's comments required an official statement from the Indian MEA.

 

[Gadkari]

Job done by the lady ! Appreciated.
Kashmir again frontline news trending over the world .

Whole country in lockdown under occupation making western news

LOL. And you think that is somehow going to intimidate us ?

Do most pakistanis think like you ?

Yet the UN Chief's comments required an official statement from the Indian MEA.

Of course. That is his job.

https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/un-...r-india-pakistan-third-party-bilateral-talks/

Issue here is Pakistan has illegally occupied Indian territories: India says ‘No, thanks’ to UN Sec General Guterres’ mediation offer on Kashmir

"The issue that needs to be addressed is that of vacation of the territories illegally and forcibly occupied by Pakistan. Further issues, if any, would be discussed bilaterally. There is no role or scope for third party mediation", stated MEA spokesperson Raveesh Kumar.

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres (left), MEA Spokesperson Raveesh Kumar (right)

On Sunday, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) rejected the offer of mediation on Kashmir between India and Pakistan, proposed by the UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. The UN chief said, “I offered my good offices from the beginning. I am ready to help if both countries agree for mediation.”

India has been a long proponent of resolving issues bilaterally. Rejecting the third-party intervention, MEA spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said, “India’s position has not changed. Jammu & Kashmir has been, is and will continue to be an integral part of India. The issue that needs to be addressed is that of vacation of the territories illegally and forcibly occupied by Pakistan. Further issues, if any, would be discussed bilaterally. There is no role or scope for third party mediation.”

Kumar added that the Antonio Guterres should instead urge Pakistan to end cross-border terrorism with India that threatens the ‘right to life’ of the people of India.

The Indian MEA has asserted that there is no scope for third party mediation in the issue. New Delhi has been of the view that UNMOGIP has become redundant, post the Simla Agreement and the establishment of the LoC.

 

[Bossman]

These people can go and sulk in their own country. Every country has the right to allow or deny visas.
China is a great example of it. Try speaking against CCP and see if you get visas.

But I thought India was better than China. The largest democracy in the world and believes in freedom and equal rights including right of free speech.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Issue here is Pakistan has illegally occupied Indian territories

No.

Per the UNSC Resolutions, accepted & committed to multiple times by the GoI, the region is disputed with the solution being a UN led plebiscite that will occur after a bilateral withdrawal agreed to by the UN, Pakistan and India. India entered the process of negotiating the specifics of withdrawal by BOTH sides multiple times (while rejecting almost all proposals agreed to by the UN and Pakistan).

And as many other posters have pointed out, if India actually considered the UN irrelevant, it wouldn't be begging, pleading and whining about being given permanent membership to the UNSC.

 

[Gadkari]

No.

Per the UNSC Resolutions, accepted & committed to multiple times by the GoI, the region is disputed with the solution being a UN led plebiscite that will occur after a bilateral withdrawal agreed to by the UN, Pakistan and India. India entered the process of negotiating the specifics of withdrawal by BOTH sides multiple times (while rejecting almost all proposals agreed to by the UN and Pakistan).

And as many other posters have pointed out, if India actually considered the UN irrelevant, it wouldn't be begging, pleading and whining about being given permanent membership to the UNSC.

Simla agreement overrides UNSC resolutions and voilent acts of pakistan has rendered simla agreement null and void. So now India claims all part of Kashir as per the agreement signed with the govt. of kashmir headed by Raja Hari singh.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Simla agreement overrides UNSC resolutions and voilent acts of pakistan has rendered simla agreement null and void. So now India claims all part of Kashir as per the agreement signed with the govt. of kashmir headed by Raja Hari singh.

Simla does nothing of the sort. Simla clearly reiterates the commitment of both India and Pakistan to the UN Charter and therefore to the UNSC Resolutions and also reiterates the commitment of both to a mutually agreed upon means of dispute resolution - the UNSC Resolutions ARE that 'mutually agreed upon means of dispute resolution' because of multiple official Indian government commitments to the UNSC Resolutions as well as Indian government participation in the trilateral 'withdrawal of Indian and Pakistani forces' negotiation process outlined in the UNSCR 80.

 

[SIPRA]

Kashmir issue is riding on a good pace. This is very encouraging.