Brief profiles of terrorists involved in the Karachi bus attack/Sabeen murder
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He would be punished should I remind you of Ajmal Paharai and Saulat Mirza and Umair Siddiqi and hundreds and Faisal Mota and Shabbir Mullah and hundreds more arrested by Rangers belonging to MQM who have taken names of pretty much entire leadership on their orders they used to kill people all those who have been involved in killing will be taken to task. Terrorist MQM supporters should be the last one to raise finger on others. If JI has target killers they would also face law.
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and thats the beauty of it all. do it from the shadows
don't leave your visiting card...
this news will be a huge blow to Hamid Mir and Asma Jahangir who were yapping at ISI accusing it of the murder.
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From IBA graduate to 'terror suspect'?
IMTIAZ ALI | ATIKA REHMAN | HUFSA CHAUDHRY — PUBLISHED 13 minutes ago
A photograph of Saad Aziz purportedly taken from his facebook account
KARACHI: The Sindh chief minister's thunderbolt revelation yesterday thatthree "well-educated" students have been arrested for plotting recent terrorist attacks in Karachi sent shockwaves across the country.
As Mr Qaim Ali Shah disclosed the names of university graduates Saad Aziz, Mohammad Azfar Ishrat and Haafiz Nasir for being involved in heinous crimes, friends and former schoolmates took to Facebook and Twitter to express both horror and disbelief.
Saad Aziz - the 'good kid'
That a student from one of Pakistan's finest and most prestigious business schools could become a "trained militant" who "provides funds for terror activities" in the city is difficult to understand for many.
The assertion that Saad Aziz - a BBA graduate from the reputable Institute of Business Administration (IBA) - has confessed to masterminding the murder of rights activist Sabeen Mahmud has been met with scepticism by former schoolmates.
“I remember him being a good kid. He played tennis and football. He had a good sense of humour," says one of Aziz's former high school students, requesting anonymity owing to the sensitivity of the case. He added that Aziz earlier studied at the Beaconhouse Schooling System, after which he went on to another elite institution, The Lyceum for his A' Levels and eventually IBA for his undergraduate degree.
Another former schoolmate describes him as "a calm and a composed person". "He used to hang out in the company of boys as well as girls," he adds.
A hardworking student at IBA
A former IBA schoolmate of Aziz scoffed at the idea that the boy would have had time for training as a terrorist, owing to IBA's rigorous schedule.
“The press release says he was involved in terrorist activities since 2009. He must have been 19 or 20 years old then and in his second year at IBA. I don't know whether being in a terrorist organisation is a full time job or not, but IBA didn't give time for us to be involved in anything. And he was there at university every day.”
Director Communication and Public Affairs at IBA, Huma Baqai also expresses alarm at the allegation.
"Saad Aziz from the batch of 2011 was our student, but it's been four years since he left.We won't deny that he was a student of IBA."
"During his time here he was a good student with good grades. Even before IBA, he was associated with a good school, where he had good grades. No such tendency towards [terrorist] activities came to light during his time at IBA," she continues.
"He was a good boy from a good family, a tax-paying family. It's as much a surprise to us as it is to you that someone from such a family could get lured into such activities."
'He grew religious over time'
One former IBA student, however, said Aziz may have grown religious over time.
“I know he had become religious, grown a beard and started going on those four-month religious evangelical trips. This is what I know through mutual friends. Maybe he got involved with such people during his religious trips. But he didn’t look the type of person who would be a mass murderer. We are all very shocked by this news.”
He added that no one has been able to contact Aziz' family.
"He was also out of touch with his university friends for a while now. Though he did bump into an IBA class fellow at the Karachi Literary Festival... "
According to a former schoolmate, Aziz is married and also has a child. He worked at The Cactus, a restaurant in Karachi's Sindhi Muslim that serves a variety of Mexican and continental dishes. An employee at the restaurant told Dawn that the joint is nearly a year old and is owned by Aziz's father, with his son holding an administrative position in the business venture.
"Saad is not like that [militant] at all ...It is impossible. His character is not like that. He is a family man," the schoolmate vouches.
According to the chief minister, Saad Aziz alias Tin Tin alias John, is the mastermind of the attack on Sabeen Mahmud and has been a part of terrorist activities since 2009. "Aziz is a trained militant with expertise in producing different types of literature. He provided funds for terror activities in the city," the chief minister said.
While Shah did not disclose the organisation the arrested men belong to, CID Police Incharge, Raja Umar Khattab said it is a group inspired by Al Qaeda.
"It took 13 months to complete the investigations that lead us to this group," Khattab said, "They are all from the same group."
Given below are brief profiles of the other suspects arrested along with Saad Aziz
Tahir Hussain
Tahir Hussain Minhas alias Sain Nazir alias Zahid, alias Naveed alias Khalil, alias Shaukat and alias Mota-matriculate, who is the mastermind of the Safoora Goth carnage, has been involved in terror activities since 1998. A trained terrorist who has expertise in making bombs and using arms such as RPG-7 and Kalashnikov.
He had personally met Osama Bin Ladin and Aiman-uz-Zawahiri of Al Qaeda on several occasions.
Azfar Ishrat
Mohammad Azfar Ishrat alias Maajid is an engineer having passed out from the Sir Syed University of Engineering and Technology. Involved in terrorist activities since 2011, Ishrat is a trained terrorist who has expertise in making bombs and electronic circuits used as timers in such bombs.
Haafiz Nasir
Haafiz Nasir alias Yasir, who completed MA in Islamic Studies from Karachi University, has been involved in terrorist activities since 2013. A trained terrorist, Nasir has expertise in brainwashing and motivating people for ‘Jihadi’ activities.
The confessions made by these terrorists include the carnage of Safoora Goth, murder of Sabeen Mahmud in Defence, firing on American educationist Debra Lobo in the Ferozabad area, bomb attack on a naval officer and suicidal attack on Brig Basit of the Rangers, grenade attack on schools and throwing pamphlets in Nazimabad and North Nazimabad, bomb blast and targeted killings on the Bohri community in the area of Arambagh, North Nazimabad, Bahadurbad Karachi and Hyderabad, bomb attacks on police vans on M.A. Jinnah Road, Arambagh, Gulberg, Gulistan-i-Jauhar, NIPA Chowrangi, North Nazimabad and North Krachi and in the targeted killing of police officials in Gulistan-i-Jauhar, North Nazimabad, North Karachi, Shah Faisal Colony and Landhi.
IMTIAZ ALI | ATIKA REHMAN | HUFSA CHAUDHRY — PUBLISHED 13 minutes ago
A photograph of Saad Aziz purportedly taken from his facebook account
KARACHI: The Sindh chief minister's thunderbolt revelation yesterday thatthree "well-educated" students have been arrested for plotting recent terrorist attacks in Karachi sent shockwaves across the country.
As Mr Qaim Ali Shah disclosed the names of university graduates Saad Aziz, Mohammad Azfar Ishrat and Haafiz Nasir for being involved in heinous crimes, friends and former schoolmates took to Facebook and Twitter to express both horror and disbelief.
Saad Aziz - the 'good kid'
That a student from one of Pakistan's finest and most prestigious business schools could become a "trained militant" who "provides funds for terror activities" in the city is difficult to understand for many.
The assertion that Saad Aziz - a BBA graduate from the reputable Institute of Business Administration (IBA) - has confessed to masterminding the murder of rights activist Sabeen Mahmud has been met with scepticism by former schoolmates.
“I remember him being a good kid. He played tennis and football. He had a good sense of humour," says one of Aziz's former high school students, requesting anonymity owing to the sensitivity of the case. He added that Aziz earlier studied at the Beaconhouse Schooling System, after which he went on to another elite institution, The Lyceum for his A' Levels and eventually IBA for his undergraduate degree.
Another former schoolmate describes him as "a calm and a composed person". "He used to hang out in the company of boys as well as girls," he adds.
A hardworking student at IBA
A former IBA schoolmate of Aziz scoffed at the idea that the boy would have had time for training as a terrorist, owing to IBA's rigorous schedule.
“The press release says he was involved in terrorist activities since 2009. He must have been 19 or 20 years old then and in his second year at IBA. I don't know whether being in a terrorist organisation is a full time job or not, but IBA didn't give time for us to be involved in anything. And he was there at university every day.”
Director Communication and Public Affairs at IBA, Huma Baqai also expresses alarm at the allegation.
"Saad Aziz from the batch of 2011 was our student, but it's been four years since he left.We won't deny that he was a student of IBA."
"During his time here he was a good student with good grades. Even before IBA, he was associated with a good school, where he had good grades. No such tendency towards [terrorist] activities came to light during his time at IBA," she continues.
"He was a good boy from a good family, a tax-paying family. It's as much a surprise to us as it is to you that someone from such a family could get lured into such activities."
'He grew religious over time'
One former IBA student, however, said Aziz may have grown religious over time.
“I know he had become religious, grown a beard and started going on those four-month religious evangelical trips. This is what I know through mutual friends. Maybe he got involved with such people during his religious trips. But he didn’t look the type of person who would be a mass murderer. We are all very shocked by this news.”
He added that no one has been able to contact Aziz' family.
"He was also out of touch with his university friends for a while now. Though he did bump into an IBA class fellow at the Karachi Literary Festival... "
According to a former schoolmate, Aziz is married and also has a child. He worked at The Cactus, a restaurant in Karachi's Sindhi Muslim that serves a variety of Mexican and continental dishes. An employee at the restaurant told Dawn that the joint is nearly a year old and is owned by Aziz's father, with his son holding an administrative position in the business venture.
"Saad is not like that [militant] at all ...It is impossible. His character is not like that. He is a family man," the schoolmate vouches.
According to the chief minister, Saad Aziz alias Tin Tin alias John, is the mastermind of the attack on Sabeen Mahmud and has been a part of terrorist activities since 2009. "Aziz is a trained militant with expertise in producing different types of literature. He provided funds for terror activities in the city," the chief minister said.
While Shah did not disclose the organisation the arrested men belong to, CID Police Incharge, Raja Umar Khattab said it is a group inspired by Al Qaeda.
"It took 13 months to complete the investigations that lead us to this group," Khattab said, "They are all from the same group."
Given below are brief profiles of the other suspects arrested along with Saad Aziz
Tahir Hussain
Tahir Hussain Minhas alias Sain Nazir alias Zahid, alias Naveed alias Khalil, alias Shaukat and alias Mota-matriculate, who is the mastermind of the Safoora Goth carnage, has been involved in terror activities since 1998. A trained terrorist who has expertise in making bombs and using arms such as RPG-7 and Kalashnikov.
He had personally met Osama Bin Ladin and Aiman-uz-Zawahiri of Al Qaeda on several occasions.
Azfar Ishrat
Mohammad Azfar Ishrat alias Maajid is an engineer having passed out from the Sir Syed University of Engineering and Technology. Involved in terrorist activities since 2011, Ishrat is a trained terrorist who has expertise in making bombs and electronic circuits used as timers in such bombs.
Haafiz Nasir
Haafiz Nasir alias Yasir, who completed MA in Islamic Studies from Karachi University, has been involved in terrorist activities since 2013. A trained terrorist, Nasir has expertise in brainwashing and motivating people for ‘Jihadi’ activities.
The confessions made by these terrorists include the carnage of Safoora Goth, murder of Sabeen Mahmud in Defence, firing on American educationist Debra Lobo in the Ferozabad area, bomb attack on a naval officer and suicidal attack on Brig Basit of the Rangers, grenade attack on schools and throwing pamphlets in Nazimabad and North Nazimabad, bomb blast and targeted killings on the Bohri community in the area of Arambagh, North Nazimabad, Bahadurbad Karachi and Hyderabad, bomb attacks on police vans on M.A. Jinnah Road, Arambagh, Gulberg, Gulistan-i-Jauhar, NIPA Chowrangi, North Nazimabad and North Krachi and in the targeted killing of police officials in Gulistan-i-Jauhar, North Nazimabad, North Karachi, Shah Faisal Colony and Landhi.
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@syedali73 i hope i'd have a dislike button. By ur post u have de moralized genuine people who grow beard and wear veils just bcz they are simple, religious and peaceful nationals. But yes, its ur personal point of view....But that's not fair. Majority of muslims are moderate in Pakistan. Just because of these extremist bastards you must not dislike beard and a veil (except when beard and veil are used together) . There are people like eidhi, junaid jamshaid, molana tariq jamil (although he never ever condemns these terror activities
) who are not extremists but have beards. By the way i don't like some molvi guys who have a special "phitkaar" on their faces and you can recognize them from a distance.
Generalization should be avoided though.
Totally agree with u @Baloch Pakistani
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I just showed you mirror in rebuttal of your post but you had started your old rhetoric and trolling to avoid replying accurately
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Maybe. Please refer to post #23. BTW, when you are going to declare me kaafir?
I may be wrong but in my experience those who sport beards (religious type) and hide themselves behind the veils (no such thing as veil in Muhammed PBUH's Islam) are only inches away from becoming extremists.
Maybe it is only me who had bad experience with religious folks though I guess many others would agree with me. Islam is not in beard and veil, rather beard and veil (actually modesty) are in Islam. I wish some day our friends get to understand this.
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Islam is not in beard, it's the beard which is in Islam. Sadly most of the beardy weirdos involve in such atrocities interpret the later definition.
RAW left the finger prints on the trigger!!! Ya...skoolies aren't they?
RAW left the finger prints on the trigger!!! Ya...skoolies aren't they?
They work in a system, for kids they teach in madrasah, for elders they offer four months course this is how they get man power. Madrasah reforms are on their way please ban the Tabligi Jamaat, do not let them reach new and fresh brains.
Good thing is they don't use television, for them its haram, their main source of propagating their message is through people to people contact. This is what they do during Tabligi activity. So it is important to disable their tongue twisting and ban Tabligi Jamaat.
Good thing is they don't use television, for them its haram, their main source of propagating their message is through people to people contact. This is what they do during Tabligi activity. So it is important to disable their tongue twisting and ban Tabligi Jamaat.
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with due respect sir...as every liberal is not anti-Pakistan...every molvi or a lady following the teaching of islam is not terrorist as well, it would be more polite if you understand their feelings...they hate these terrorists equally
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In honesty, this looks more like the output of the Jihadi tanzeemein - the jihad factory. The perps have been indoctrinated since a while, the lead one has been converted in 2009 and has gone downhill from there.
RAW may be good but not that good that it runs a whole indoctrination factory inside Pakistan consisting of Pakistanis and the perps being Pakistani. If the assertion still remains in your mind that it indeed is a foreign intelligence agency and assuming if its true then god forbid - because going by the profile of the perpetrators and how they became terrorists, it would be safe to assume that any and everybody can be turned. Which essentially means that there's a lot to worry about as there are millions of potential jihadis out there.
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I heard that Pakistan could not find any proof against RAW......
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And what was the role of RAW in this as claimed, weapons,training or Finance!?
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