Breaking: Iran detains U.S navy soldiers entering Iranian territorial waters

[Fenrir]

2 boats and 10 men...5 men per boat...must have been a small boat.

In the Persian Gulf the US has Small Unit Riverine Craft:

And Riverine Command Boats, also known as CB90.

It definitely was something small. Not exactly a major coup for Iran, it wasn't a destroyer or cruiser, and if US ships where conducting innocent passage, and not something more nefarious, Iran may have violated International Laws.

But the incident is expected to pass without concern or further issues:

US officials say they have received assurances from Tehran that the crew of two small US navy ships – currently in Iranian custody – will soon be allowed to continue their journey.

As reported by Iran held two US navy ships in Gulf | World news | The Guardian

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I wrote a more in-depth analysis here:

10 US Sailors 2 Boats Detained by Iran | The American Military Forum

 

[Falcon29]

USA is playing some game. I guess they want Iran as bogey man for gulf states. Plus Iran fighting in Syria and Iraq is also dependent on USA.

Agreed here, I don't why it's so hard for some people to observe this.

 

[Daneshmand]

Plus Iran fighting in Syria and Iraq is also dependent on USA.

Really? As if US was not arming and enabling "free syrian army" to propagate civil war there. As if the history of the past 5 years did not happen.

Your conspiracy theories are getting weirder and weirder day by day. Day and night you are on this forum defending and supporting Takfiris on every thread. No wonder, you are at the end of your rope.

 

[damm1t]

That moment when your ally violates your enemy's airspace...

In fact Russia just sent two messages. One to Turkey by violating the Turkish airspace. Nato kept mum, while Turkey "protested" by inviting Russian ambassador for a tea.

Big talk, no action. This is what it comes to. Go and shoot some Russian jets and see what happens.

Good. Then in that case, deal with Russian air force. Next time, one of their planes "harasses" you, shoot them down. See what happens next.

(It's seen already)


Another awkward moment when your enemy "violates" your territorial waters...

The sovereignty of the country should be protected at all costs

 

[Providence]

That moment when your ally violates your enemy's airspace...




(It's seen already)


Another awkward moment when your enemy "violates" your territorial waters...

Haha.. Thanks for pointing out those juvenile posts !

 

[Daneshmand]

That moment when your ally violates your enemy's airspace...




(It's seen already)


Another awkward moment when your enemy "violates" your territorial waters...

Good one.

Well, I can't speak for Russians. Putin should have spoken, and I am no Putin.

But there is a big picture here which you have disregarded to see. One is that both Turkey and Iran stood up and did what was necessary to defend their sovereignty. A commendable action. Something most nations are not capable of doing so.

And yet there is even a bigger picture. That Iran does it without any help from others. While Turkey did it knowing fully well that it is a NATO state with NATO power behind it.

 

[airmarshal]

Great stuff Iran! Someone at least can stand up to Americans. This is not like Saudi Arabia or any of the Middle East Arabs who cant think to offend Americans.

 

[Daneshmand]

Great stuff Iran! Someone at least can stand up to Americans. This is not like Saudi Arabia or any of the Middle East Arabs who cant think to offend Americans.

Thanks for seeing through the smoke and mirrors and grasping the implications here.

 

[Falcon29]

Great stuff Iran! Someone at least can stand up to Americans. This is not like Saudi Arabia or any of the Middle East Arabs who cant think to offend Americans.

Can you give me examples of Iran standing up to Americans? I can give many examples of Arabs 'standing up to Americans'. Of course much of it done is by designated terror groups. But if you're referring to a state, Iraq led by Saddam was only Arab nation in region to actually get in direct war with the US. Iran hasn't done that. Not that I would want that.

 

[Daneshmand]

Can you give me examples of Iran standing up to Americans?

Reminder: You are inside a thread about exactly such an example.

 

[500]

Really? As if US was not arming and enabling "free syrian army" to propagate civil war there. As if the history of the past 5 years did not happen.

US never armed the rebels, on contrary they prevent many weapons in. They only armed Kurrds and their lapdog Jaysh al Thuwar.

 

[Fenrir]

Reminder: You are inside a thread about exactly such an example.

It doesn't seem to have been anything of the sort though. It seems the US ship simply entered into Iranian waters, took the Iranians by surprise, and fell to the mercy of mechanical troubles.

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From the article Iran detains 10 US sailors: what we know:

US officials told the Associated Press that the ships experienced mechanical failures during their journey, which caused them to drift into Iranian territorial waters.

According to official US statements and every independent media report, the sailors are not prisoners or hostages.

Rather, the Iranians have detained them temporarily and are set to release them. The exact release date isn't clear yet; senior defense officials told the Daily Beast that the sailors will be held at least through Wednesday. Obama administration officials reportedly said Iran would not release the sailors immediately because it is currently the middle of the night in Iran and doing so would be "unsafe."

Multiple statements from US officials to press say that the sailors' detention is only temporary. "We subsequently have been in communication with Iranian authorities, who have informed us of the safety and well-being of our personnel," a US official told CNN. "We have received assurances the sailors will promptly be allowed to continue their journey."

Reportedly, this was secured (at least in part) by a top-level conversation between Secretary of State John Kerry and Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. Kerry "personally engaged with Zarif on this issue to try to get to this outcome," a US official told the AP.

Based on these quotes and other publicly available information, the narrative of events looks to be as follows: Two US boats on a training mission experienced a mechanical failure, which caused them to drift into Iranian territory. The surprised Iranians picked them up and detained the US sailors while they figured out what the Americans were doing there.

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If you think otherwise, let's see your evidence and sources. It's not a message to the US, it seems to just be a normal case that's been seen before and will end without further problems or complications.

Both sides are acting very professionally and trying to avoid any escalations.

 

[Blue Marlin]

It doesn't seem to have been anything of the sort though, it seems the US ship simply entered into Iranian waters, took the Iranians by surprise, and fell to the mercy of mechanical troubles:

US officials told the Associated Press that the ships experienced mechanical failures during their journey, which caused them to drift into Iranian territorial waters.

Multiple statements from US officials to press say that the sailors' detention is only temporary. "We subsequently have been in communication with Iranian authorities, who have informed us of the safety and well-being of our personnel," a US official told CNN. "We have received assurances the sailors will promptly be allowed to continue their journey."

Reportedly, this was secured (at least in part) by a top-level conversation between Secretary of State John Kerry and Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. Kerry "personally engaged with Zarif on this issue to try to get to this outcome," a US official told the AP.

Based on these quotes and other publicly available information, the narrative of events looks to be as follows: Two US boats on a training mission experienced a mechanical failure, which caused them to drift into Iranian territory. The surprised Iranians picked them up and detained the US sailors while they figured out what the Americans were doing there.

From Iran detains 10 US sailors: what we know - Vox

If you think otherwise, let's see your evidence and sources.

so is bye bye to slave to the waffel? or is the waffel comming back?

 

[Dalit]

US never armed the rebels, on contrary they prevent many weapons in. They only armed Kurrds and their lapdog Jaysh al Thuwar.

Arming Syrian rebels: Where the US went wrong - BBC News

 

[AmirPatriot]

USA is playing some game. I guess they want Iran as bogey man for gulf states. Plus Iran fighting in Syria and Iraq is also dependent on USA.

Please explain to me how Iran fighting in Syria and Iraq is dependent of the US?

Air forces can't do shit in Iraq, bombing scattered terrorists is useless unless you're strafing with ground attack craft like AC-130s, Apaches or warthogs. Neither of which the US is doing.
Most of the useful airstrikes aree being done by Russia in Syria because they're striking vital support infrastructure like oil convoys, power stations, command centres etc. The Americans are reluctant to attack these because they don't want the SAA and Iran to makeup ground that can be leverage in Geneva negotiations.

If the Americans left Iraq right now it wouldn't make much of a difference, most of ISIS' support structure and backbone is in Syria.