Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a year on highest battlefield.

[Assault Rifle]

Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a
year on highest battlefield.

18 Sep, 2015, 1521 hrs IST, Manu Pubby, ET
Bureau

Despite a ceasefire that has seen no targeted
firing since a 2003 agreement, the Pakistan Army
has been losing an average of 30 soldiers a year
on Siachen.
In a rare revelation, Pakistan has officially come
out with details of the battle casualties it suffered
in various operations from 2003-10. This include
deployments on the Indian border as well as its
fight against militants on the Afghan border . One
figure that stands out in this period - which
coincides with a ceasefire agreement that meant
no firing on the border - is that the Pakistan
Army has been suffering huge fatal casualties on
the Siachen glacier, the highest battlefield in the
world without a shot being fired.
Despite a ceasefire that has seen no targeted
firing since a 2003 agreement, the Pakistan Army
has been losing an average of 30 soldiers a year
on Siachen. The deaths are associated with the
perils of deployment at high altitude - medical
complications, avalanches, bad weather and
more. With a total of 213 deaths recorded at
Siachen between 2003-10, the glacier has been
taking its toll. The average of 30 deaths a year
does not include the 140 soldiers that Pakistan
lost in a fatal avalanche that hit a military camp
in April 2012.

On the other hand, Indian casualties on glacier
have progressively decreased over the years and
are currently in single digits. Official data released
in parliament shows that Indian soldiers have
died due to climatic conditions at an average of
10 a year. In recent years this number has almost
come down to single digits, with 5 soldiers lost
this year, six in 2014 and ten in 2013. This
despite the fact that the Indian Army is manning
higher posts and is deployed across the length
and breadth of the glacier, unlike Pakistan that is
restricted to the mountains surrounding the area.
In both 2007 and 2008 for example, the Indian
army suffered four fatal casualties.
Correspondingly, the Pakistan Army lost 13 in
2008 and 12 in 2007 in the Siachen region .
The difference in casualties between the two
nations is attributed by the Army on better
equipment, resources, training and medical
facilities on the Indian side. Indian Army officers
who have served on the glacier say that a strictly
followed acclimatization procedure, along with
standard operating procedures that are
implemented sternly have brought down
casualties. The laying down of a kerosene line on
the glacier, as well as the procurement of pre
fabricated huts and better clothing has reduced
deaths due to the bone chilling cold. Lt Gen Ata
Hasnain (retd), says that one of the success
stories of DRDO has been on high altitude
research and the medicine and material they have
put together for the glacier is saving lives.


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[Tuchha]

Both are bleeding !!

 

[Ankit Kumar 001]

Even that single digit should come down to zero.

We should make use of more unmanned systems in Siachen this reducing risks of human life.

 

[hell__raider]

You need money to fight wars.

 

[Levina]

Use of Dhruv helicopters and the building the helipad at point sonam were 2 prudent decisions by India.
India has been controlling the higher altitudes of this glacier, its good to know that we have been able to reduce causalities on our side. There was a time when our soldiers were sent to base camps within days of our their deployment to glacier.


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[KIND]

Hi,

An active discussion is already going on in Pak Army forum for this news.

 

[Argon Prime]

Even that single digit should come down to zero.

We should make use of more unmanned systems in Siachen this reducing risks of human life.

There is saying that mountains eat up men!!You simply can not replace the manpower with technology at such climatic conditions,because that wold be counter productive.

 

[45'22']

Its good to know that casualties are decreasing.....
I hope it becomes zero....

RIP the dead...

 

[Echo_419]

Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a
year on highest battlefield.

18 Sep, 2015, 1521 hrs IST, Manu Pubby, ET
Bureau

Despite a ceasefire that has seen no targeted
firing since a 2003 agreement, the Pakistan Army
has been losing an average of 30 soldiers a year
on Siachen.
In a rare revelation, Pakistan has officially come
out with details of the battle casualties it suffered
in various operations from 2003-10. This include
deployments on the Indian border as well as its
fight against militants on the Afghan border . One
figure that stands out in this period - which
coincides with a ceasefire agreement that meant
no firing on the border - is that the Pakistan
Army has been suffering huge fatal casualties on
the Siachen glacier, the highest battlefield in the
world without a shot being fired.
Despite a ceasefire that has seen no targeted
firing since a 2003 agreement, the Pakistan Army
has been losing an average of 30 soldiers a year
on Siachen. The deaths are associated with the
perils of deployment at high altitude - medical
complications, avalanches, bad weather and
more. With a total of 213 deaths recorded at
Siachen between 2003-10, the glacier has been
taking its toll. The average of 30 deaths a year
does not include the 140 soldiers that Pakistan
lost in a fatal avalanche that hit a military camp
in April 2012.

On the other hand, Indian casualties on glacier
have progressively decreased over the years and
are currently in single digits. Official data released
in parliament shows that Indian soldiers have
died due to climatic conditions at an average of
10 a year. In recent years this number has almost
come down to single digits, with 5 soldiers lost
this year, six in 2014 and ten in 2013. This
despite the fact that the Indian Army is manning
higher posts and is deployed across the length
and breadth of the glacier, unlike Pakistan that is
restricted to the mountains surrounding the area.
In both 2007 and 2008 for example, the Indian
army suffered four fatal casualties.
Correspondingly, the Pakistan Army lost 13 in
2008 and 12 in 2007 in the Siachen region .
The difference in casualties between the two
nations is attributed by the Army on better
equipment, resources, training and medical
facilities on the Indian side. Indian Army officers
who have served on the glacier say that a strictly
followed acclimatization procedure, along with
standard operating procedures that are
implemented sternly have brought down
casualties. The laying down of a kerosene line on
the glacier, as well as the procurement of pre
fabricated huts and better clothing has reduced
deaths due to the bone chilling cold. Lt Gen Ata
Hasnain (retd), says that one of the success
stories of DRDO has been on high altitude
research and the medicine and material they have
put together for the glacier is saving lives.


Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a year on highest battlefield - The Economic Times
@levina @Echo_419 @45'22' @janon @scorpionx @Abingdonboy @Syama Ayas @rubyjackass
@Guynextdoor2 @SpArK @Rain Man @Skull and
Bones @Bornubus @wolfschanzze @Mike_Brando
@Srinivas @TimeTraveller @halupridol
@HariPrasad @gslv @Blue_Eyes @doppelganger
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@pursuit of happiness @Chanakya's_Chant
@Manindra @he-man @SrNair @IndoCarib
@third eye @Zebra @itachiii @KayAay @NKVD
@GURU DUTT @Omega007 @kurup @JanjaWeed
@nair @OrionHunter @jarves
@Oscar @Horus @waz @Jungibaaz @Irfan Baloch

Hope they comedown to zero

 

[Perpendicular]

With LCH capable of operating from Siachin forward landing bases, a huge increase in firepower and support is expected. Might help in reducing number of manned outposts as well.

 

[Argon Prime]

With LCH capable of operating from Siachin forward landing bases, a huge increase in firepower and support is expected. Might help in reducing number of manned outposts as well.

Nope,it will have no bearings on the number of casualties there,because the casualties are not really the result enemy actions but for harsh,inhospitable climatic conditions!!So I don't see how the increase in firepower can come in handy in reducing weather induced casualties.