Black Hole of Calcutta

[jamahir]

Nawab was a Jammati sir.

 

[Tameem]

He is not Bengali Nationalist either.

 

[Saiful Islam]

But sadely Siraj Ud Dulah has been disowned after 1971 by Bengalis .Am i right sir.

Bengalis speak proudly about Siraj Ud Dawlat and he is included in the curriculum of Bangladeshi schools. He is a famous Muslim figure in Bangladesh as well as Bakhtiyar Khilji to a lesser extent. Why would we disown him after specifically after 1971. You're talking like we left Islam after separating from Pakistan.

Calcutta is a Black hole lol.

 

[jamahir]

He is not Bengali Nationalist either.

true... his best identity can be that he is perhaps the first great freedom fighter of india, the second of course being tipu... and how many many years were these two before the 1857 mutiny that is promoted by the indian establishment as the "first war of independence".

 

[Anubis]

Anyone who thinks we have forgotten Siraj would be a fool....anyone who goes through the school system has read about the important features of his life...Battle of plassey 1757...Mi Jafor is synonymous to traitor in the Bengali language...Ghosheti Begum is still used to mock any of our leaders...Bangla,Bihar,Urisshar Nobab Shirajuddaula...anyone and everyone knows this!

 

[Md Akmal]

Anyone who thinks we have forgotten Siraj would be a fool....anyone who goes through the school system has read about the important features of his life...Battle of plassey 1757...Mi Jafor is synonymous to traitor in the Bengali language...Ghosheti Begum is still used to mock any of our leaders...Bangla,Bihar,Urisshar Nobab Shirajuddaula...anyone and everyone knows this!

@ I still find some similarity between Ghosheti Begum and people like bongbang ???

 

[khair_ctg]

But sadely Siraj Ud Dulah has been disowned after 1971 by Bengalis .Am i right sir.

you are right. i'm impressed with your observation of Bangladesh, and the prevalent perceptions (and misinformation) that exist among people. Nawab Siraj ud Daula was SUPPOSED to be our hero but he is not. not only this one person, but every single personality, event, or political movement connected to a Muslim identity or can be said to be a Muslim contribution to the land is omitted in the discourse of our society. in other words the earth did not exist before "language movement" of 1952 and the earth got full shape only in 1971.

i have seen members on this forum from time to time, and many Bangladeshis in real life, brand Siraj ud Daula, Mughals, Urdu and Persian languages, Abutalib Shaista Khan, etc. as enemies to Bangladesh. and sadly this is reflected in the entire system running our country. then who is ours? only the historical Hindu nationalists and Hindu nationalist movements, for which even M. Gandhi is also too pro-Muslim?

Not true. They wanted united India before 47.

JeI was one of countless parties and individuals that did not support 1) the Partition of United Pakistan (which meant further partition of the subcontinent) and 2) the Indian invasion of East Pakistan

 

[Sine Nomine]

you are right. i'm impressed with your observation of Bangladesh, and the prevalent perceptions (and misinformation) that exist among people. Nawab Siraj ud Daula was SUPPOSED to be our hero but he is not. not only this one person, but every single personality, event, or political movement connected to a Muslim identity or can be said to be a Muslim contribution to the land is omitted in the discourse of our society. in other words the earth did not exist before "language movement" of 1952 and the earth got full shape only in 1971.

i have seen members on this forum from time to time, and many Bangladeshis in real life, brand Siraj ud Daula, Mughals, Urdu and Persian languages, Abutalib Shaista Khan, etc. as enemies to Bangladesh. and sadly this is reflected in the entire system running our country. then who is ours? only the historical Hindu nationalists and Hindu nationalist movements, for which even M. Gandhi is also too pro-Muslim?

West Bengal wanted East always a slave anyone disagree can see annulment of partition of Bengal in 1911 after 47 West Bengali mentality shifted to New Delhi and after 1971 actually Bengal was united under New Delhi if anyone can deny this fact that internationally Bengali Muslims are no more Independent then he will be a true anti bengali Muslim because it's a truth that even several bengali's who fought in 1971 soon after realized that they have been slaved once again in name of Bangala Nationalism.

 

[axisofevil]

Why do Bangladeshi's only talk about Islam? What Hinduism? Buddhism? Your Indian roots? Bengal and Bangladesh was an area known for its art, treasure and history. It was under Hindu Kings that brought this area to great heights. it was no wonder Foreign Muslims invaded and came to this area as fast as they could. How come you guys never read your history? Why do you forget it? Why do yo hate Hindus so much?

 

[chaanmia]

it's a truth that even several bengali's who fought in 1971 soon after realized that they have been slaved once again in name of Bangala Nationalism.

I don't think independance means drone attacks of foreign country,children massacre or weekly suicide attack in mosque

 

[Sine Nomine]

I don't think independance means drone attacks of foreign country,children massacre or weekly suicide attack in mosque

Drone attacks are done with complete help of Government and all other is because of fights between peoples,at least our Ranger fires back when BSF fires but what your Guards do all know if you don't know go to a Bengali village near Indian border

 

[chaanmia]

yeah here is what I understood
1/no civilian is killed in drone strikes so no compromise of sovereignty
2/people don't die in indo-pak border
3/LOC is actually a paradise
I live close to agortola border and I am alive to bash some anti bengali inferiority complexed idiots

Drone attacks are done with complete help of Government and all other is because of fights between peoples,at least our Ranger fires back when BSF fires but what your Guards do all know if you don't know go to a Bengali village near Indian border

 

[Sine Nomine]

2/people don't die in indo-pak border
3/LOC is actually a paradise

Peoples die but on both sides...
LOC is not paradise for India nor for Pakistan,but Bangladesh border is Paradise for India,they can kill, abuse any bengali they wish and yet BDG is silent.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Bengalis speak proudly about Siraj Ud Dawlat and he is included in the curriculum of Bangladeshi schools. He is a famous Muslim figure in Bangladesh as well as Bakhtiyar Khilji to a lesser extent. Why would we disown him after specifically after 1971. You're talking like we left Islam after separating from Pakistan.

Calcutta is a Black hole lol.

Lol,if Kolkata is a black hole then i guess Dhaka doesn't exist as a city.Kolkata was the 2nd most important city in the British Empire next only to their own capital London.Even now,Kolkata is one of the most recognizable places in India among the westerners thanks to the British effort of building it as the capital of the British Indian Empire.Hundreds of thousands of foreigners visit Kolkata each year to see the beauty of the Victoria Memorial,the Howrah bridge(largest Cantilever in the world),the Indian Museum and many more such heritage places.
Now regarding the Black-hole incident,it has already been discarded by a lot of historians both Indian and British over the last century.Holwell just made it up to demonize the Nawab of Bengal and gain sympathy among the British subjects back in Britain.

 

[LaBong]

Peoples die but on both sides...
LOC is not paradise for India nor for Pakistan,but Bangladesh border is Paradise for India,they can kill, abuse any bengali they wish and yet BDG is silent.

Not even a fly can trespass at indo pak border without getting shot at. Neither pakistanis nor indians try for that matter. Some pakistanis who try get killed like the terror boat in arabian sea or on iran border.

On the other hand bangladeshis who are killed, while unfortunate, but almost in all cases while they were inside indian territory. There are literally thousands of people tresspas everyday and most of them are smuggler.

But anyway i know you are not here for rational argument but too feel good about yourself so you might as well ignore my post.