'Better to kill us in India than deport us to Myanmar' : Rohingya

[Ajaxpaul]

Slowly but surely they are going to become Indian citizens. The center has no idea how many are inside already.

It's a matter of obtaining Aadhar.

 

[pragmatic_dude]

Let them stay. People viewing it through religious lens are idiots in my opinion.

 

[Gadkari]

Let them stay. People viewing it through religious lens are idiots in my opinion.

YOu mean Religious muslims who came into Hindu majority India after being killed in retaliation by Religious buddhists in Myanmar and seeking asylum for religious persecution, should not be viewed through religious lense ?

You may be blind, but advocating Blindness for all Indians is a bit too much even by "secular" standards

Then to claim that those who are not Blind are Idiots, really takes the cake. lol.

 

[Gibbs]

Send them to Bangladesh, That's where they're really from.. Myanmar have made it clear they do not want illegal migrants

 

[pragmatic_dude]

YOu mean Religious muslims who came into Hindu majority India after being killed in retaliation by Religious buddhists in Myanmar and seeking asylum for religious persecution, should not be viewed through religious lense ?

You may be blind, but advocating Blindness for all Indians is a bit too much even by "secular" standards

Then to claim that those who are not Blind are Idiots, really takes the cake. lol.

They are facing prosecution. If they were hindus or even Christians , I don't think we would be having this discussion. Just because they are Muslims we have BJP propaganda machine spreading rumors about them for electoral gains.
To ignore all that, to send them to certain death just because they happen to be "Muslims" , yes people who advocate that are idiots in my opinion.

 

[Gibbs]

Why live in Kaffirs nation should go to Pakistan

They're from Bangladesh why would Pakistan want them ?

 

[pragmatic_dude]

Send them to Bangladesh, That's where they're really from.. Myanmar have made it clear they do not want illegal migrants

An arrangement of that order can be made. The only problem i forsee is that Bangladesh won't accept them either.

 

[Gibbs]

No you keep these Burmese Muslim.

Burmese Muslims are Kamar people and few other minor Ethnic groups, They have had little issues living with rest of Myanmar people.. Rohingya's are undocumented or recent Bengali settlers that never integrated.. There is a distinct difference

An arrangement of that order can be made. The only problem i forsee is that Bangladesh won't accept them either.

No they wont cos they're bloody hypocrites.. Ideally Indian authorities should let them stay but then again it's a matter of sovereignty and can open a can of worms

 

[Gadkari]

They are facing prosecution. If they were hindus or even Christians , I don't think we would be having this discussion. Just because they are Muslims we have BJP propaganda machine spreading rumors about them for electoral gains.
To ignore all that, to send them to certain death just because they happen to be "Muslims" , yes people who advocate that are idiots in my opinion.

Partition of India was done for the specific reason of offering a Homeland for the HINDUS, and don't you dare forget it.

Muslims got Pakistan AND Bangladesh and they have persecuted their Hindus to either convert or migrate to India.

Rohingya Muslims MP's in 1947, when they were part of Burma, actually told their parliament that they want to be part of Jinnah's pakistan.

So you BET YOUR *** , we are not going to accept them into India if they are muslim.

Hindu Rohingyas are welcome, and those muslims who want to live in India better convert to Dharmic religions or Go back to Burma or Bangladesh or pakistan or Saudi Arabia.


So if they do not want certain death, let them all become Hindus. That way they do not have to be idiots either.

No they wont cos they're bloody hypocrites.. Ideally Indian authorities should let them stay but then again it's a matter of sovereignty and can open a can of worms

If you are such an idealist, why don't you advocate that Australia take in all these persecuted asylum seekers ?

Practice what you preach before you think you can tell India what to do.

 

[pragmatic_dude]

Partition of India was done for the specific reason of offering a Homeland for the HINDUS, and don't you dare forget it.

Muslims got Pakistan AND Bangladesh and they have persecuted their Hindus to either convert or migrate to India.

Rohingya Muslims MP's in 1947, when they were part of Burma, actually told their parliament that they want to be part of Jinnah's pakistan.

So you BET YOUR *** , we are not going to accept them into India if they are muslim.

Hindu Rohingyas are welcome, and those muslims who want to live in India better convert to Dharmic religions or Go back to Burma or Bangladesh or pakistan or Saudi Arabia.


So if they do not want certain death, let them all become Hindus. That way they do not have to be idiots either.



If you are such an idealist, why don't you advocate that Australia take in all these persecuted asylum seekers ?

Practice what you preach before you think you can tell India what to do.

That's your opinion and frankly son it doesn't matter much. The question of what india means was deliberated, debated and answered by our constitution.
Calling a sizeable proportion of our population unindian just because they don't conform to the majority religion is un indian.
Don't you ever forget that.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

This is something we also ask fellow Muslims in Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan and GCC where hindus prosper, take govt. reservation in colleges and fund Hindutva and other hindu terrorist organizations with their hate for Islam.

Atleast monitor and ban such funding. Hindu by religion is allowed to a lie to hide his biases. One can check their account transactions and make them public for the others to understand. Hindu behaves differently when he is speaking from his real identity not anonymously.

Hindus don't have ummaha concept. Muslims countries non Indians Hindus are in ignore list in India.

 

[A.A. Khan]

Partition of India was done for the specific reason of offering a Homeland for the HINDUS, and don't you dare forget it.

Muslims got Pakistan AND Bangladesh and they have persecuted their Hindus to either convert or migrate to India.

Rohingya Muslims MP's in 1947, when they were part of Burma, actually told their parliament that they want to be part of Jinnah's pakistan.

So you BET YOUR *** , we are not going to accept them into India if they are muslim.

Hindu Rohingyas are welcome, and those muslims who want to live in India better convert to Dharmic religions or Go back to Burma or Bangladesh or pakistan or Saudi Arabia.


So if they do not want certain death, let them all become Hindus. That way they do not have to be idiots either.



If you are such an idealist, why don't you advocate that Australia take in all these persecuted asylum seekers ?

Practice what you preach before you think you can tell India what to do.

Acha!!!! Please put that in writing and in your constitution. What Jinnah said in 1937 about Hindu Raj great to see hindu finally showing their true colors. Please put this all in writing like a hijra don't hide behind BS called secularism rofl.
And also please try to make them conform cos there are 3.5+ million Hindus outside who we are fed up of also. They also need to conform or go back to sh*thole hopefully india will accomodate them.

I think Hindus by principle should not be earning , working, living , sleeping below a muslim. There is no need to accomodate.

As far as I can bet Rohingya will get citizenship in india not only that they will fly off to other country. Apni auqaat aur apna system ko dekh kar baat karni chahiye. What is the value of yours have seen recently thru petrol prices and other screwups.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

New Delhi, India - Jafar Alam sits by a small grocery shop in the Rohingya refugee camp in New Delhi's Kalindi Kunj area.

A police officer who visited the camp had asked Alam to fill a six-page "personal data" form. Alam refused.

"Today, if you will not cooperate with us, we will not cooperate with you tomorrow," the policeman warned.

He then walked around the camp looking for other men but didn't find many as the majority had gone to work.

The policeman left within 30 minutes but told Alam that he would be returning.

"He has been coming to the camp almost every day for a week and insists that we fill these forms," said Alam, a 27-year-old Rohingya refugee who has lived in India since 2012.





We told him several times that we will not submit these forms or give any biometric data. The Indian government will send these forms to the Myanmar embassy and then we will be deported forcibly."

The Indian government has asked states to identify members of the Rohingya refugee community, record their biometric details and report them to the central administration.

"Advisories have been issued to states. They need to identify the Rohingyas, take their biometrics and send us a report. The [central government] will initiate action through diplomatic channels with Myanmar and get it resolved," India's Home Minister Rajnath Singh said recently.

On October 4, seven Rohingya men - Mohammad Jalal, Mokbul Khan, Jalal Uddin, Mohammad Youns, Sabbir Ahamed, Rahim Uddin and Mohammad Salam - arrested in 2012 for entering India without documentation, were deported to Myanmar.

In the current situation, it would be better to kill us all here rather than deport us, because we will be killed there anyway.
NOOR QASIM, 30-YEAR-OLD ROHINGYA REFUGEE AND FATHER-OF-TWO

The deportation came hours after India's Supreme Court refused to intervene in a plea by defence lawyer Prashant Bhushan to allow them to remain in the country.

"Even the country of their origin has accepted them as its citizens," the court said, adding that it would not interfere with the government's decision.

The men were bussed to the border town of Moreh in Manipur state, where they were handed over to Myanmar border guards.

"Today's decision by the Supreme Court marks a dark day for human rights in India," said Aakar Patel of Amnesty India.

"This decision negates India's proud tradition of providing refuge to those fleeing serious human rights violations. It endangers the most persecuted population in the world and is bereft of any empathy."

Children from the Rohingya community play outside their shacks in a camp in New Delhi, India October 4, 2018 [Adnan Abidi/Reuters]
The move came two days after United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres urged India to support Bangladesh in providing humanitarian assistance to the Rohingya community and influence Myanmar to bring about reconciliation.

Since then, tension and fear have gripped the refugee camp in Kalindi Kunj, where 50 Rohingya families have been living for several years.

They fear deportation to Myanmar, where they say the government would throw them in jail or concentration camps.

"All the seven men who have been deported to Myanmar were in an Indian jail since 2012. After deportation, they were not sent back to their homes but thrown into jail again," Alam told Al Jazeera.

"We fear same will be done with us as well."

An estimated 40,000 Rohingya, a mostly Muslim minority, live in India having fled persecution in Buddhist-majority Myanmar over the years.

The Indian government led by the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has refused to grant the Rohingya refugee status.

Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar's de-facto leader, is charged with complicity over killings of Rohingya [AFP]



A minister of Prime Minister's Narendra Modi's cabinet in August told the Indian parliament that the Rohingya were illegal immigrants.

"We know this, Rohingya are linked with wrong and illegal activities," said Kiren Rijiju, minister of state for home affairs.

The Rohingya men in the camp, who mostly earn a living as day-wage labourers and rickshaw drivers, reject the allegations.

"We give a list of people living in the camp to police along with documents every month," said Aman Jamal, 24.

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"We work very hard to feed our families. We are not involved in any illegal activities. Not a single member from our community had been found involved in any wrongdoing."

Some sections of government and society in India consider Rohingya refugees a threat to national security.

In February 2017, at a Rohingya refugee camp in the Hindu-dominated Jammu region in Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir, billboards were put up with messages such as "Wake up Jammu, Rohingyas and Bangladeshis quit Jammu".

Less than a month later, Jammu's Chamber of Commerce and Industries issued an ultimatum to the state government and threatened to "identify and kill" Rohingya if they were not deported soon.

Noor Qasim, 30, lives in the Kalindi Kunj refugee camp with his wife and two young daughters

"The Indian government should understand why are we here, in which situations we have come here," he told Al Jazeera.

Qasim, who works as a labourer at a cement warehouse for $95 a month, has been living in the camp since 2012. His mother, two brothers and two sisters are in Bangladesh.

Qasim claims the army killed his cousin sister last year as violence gripped Myanmar's Rakhine state.

"I've not seen my family since 2012. I want to go back home and live with my family again but we don't have any choice," Qasim said. "We left everything behind - our houses, businesses, fields, cattle and live like slaves here."

The persecuted minority have fled what several international leaders have termed a genocide in Myanmar, the Rohingya people's home country where they are not granted the simplest of rights - including citizenship.

Victims and rights groups have provided evidence of a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Myanmar security forces are accused of raping Rohingya women, tossing babies into fires, burning down entire villages and slaughtering thousands.

"India can deport us whenever it wants and we can't do anything because it is not our country," said Qasim. "But [Indian officials] should at least see the situation in Myanmar once. In the current situation, it would be better to kill us all here rather than deport us, because we will be killed there anyway."


https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/rohingya-kill-india-deport-myanmar-181014215419540.html

I pray that our Prime Minister takes notice and that we take in these Rohingya Muslims. We muslims are one organ and one part hurts the whole body feels it. I can’t bear the thought that they will be returned to be slaughtered.

 

[Gadkari]

Acha!!!! Please put that in writing and in your constitution. What Jinnah said in 1937 about Hindu Raj great to see hindu finally showing their true colors. Please put this all in writing like a hijra don't hide behind BS called secularism rofl.
And also please try to make them conform cos there are 3.5+ million Hindus outside who we are fed up of also. They also need to conform or go back to sh*thole hopefully india will accomodate them.

I think Hindus by principle should not be earning , working, living , sleeping below a muslim. There is no need to accomodate.

As far as I can bet Rohingya will get citizenship in india not only that they will fly off to other country. Apni auqaat aur apna system ko dekh kar baat karni chahiye. What is the value of yours have seen recently thru petrol prices and other screwups.

Err ... who are you ?

 

[A.A. Khan]

I pray that our Prime Minister takes notice and that we take in these Rohingya Muslims. We muslims are one organ and one part hurts the whole body feels it. I can’t bear the thought that they will be returned to be slaughtered.

Why not throw out a buddhist and hindu and in return accomodate one rohingya. PAkistani hindus languishing in indian camps in jodhpur for another 5+ years without able to earn or live honorably but shown fake dreams of india shining will solve lot of problems.