BBC lies ?

[batmannow]

Bhai, please take time to go through Khalid Masood Khan's column. Thanks.

Political Columns | Page 44

You think they will look anything sane ?

 

[syedali73]

You think they will look anything sane ?

@TankMan will.

 

[Norwegian]

Ramzan me bhi sharam nahi aati. If you expect me to reciprocate with personal attacks, be assured that I won't.

Just give him a nice negative rating and get done with him.

 

[notorious_eagle]

If BBC is lying, why doesn't the MQM take BBC to the court? This is a lottery for the MQM as they are going to be awarded millions of dollars. But if the MQM does not sue the BBC, and they don't refute Tariq Mir's statements, this is proof enough this story is true.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Out of topic ,derailing the thread !
I feel so happy , that finally I , am about to abuse you ?lolzz

When are you going to wake up and accept there might be something going here? If BBC lied there is simple remedy. Why not go to the HM Courts and apply for libel under Defemation Act 2013. This law is to redress any wrong like for example BBC or any media making false claims. So please tell MQM if they are indeed innocent go to the courts in UK and get justice.

However there is one problem. Everything will come out in the court. The good, bad and ugly. A judgement could go against BBC in which case BBC would have to apologize and pay millions of pounds in damages. It also would prove the claims were false.

However you could also lose in which case it would pretty well prove BBC was telling truth. Trust me BBC will have got this matter checked by their own legal experts to make sure they have enough evidence that would stand scrutiny in the courts.

Now if MQM is innocent let us see if they go to the courts. I somehow doubt that though ...

Link > Defamation Act 2013

Six things all journalists need to know about the Defamation Act 2013 (which is now in force) | Press Gazette

Two examples of libel cases. The first plaintiff lost and the second won.

Link > Criminal boss loses libel case against journalist who exposed him | World news | The Guardian
Link > Boyle wins £54,650 in 'racism' libel case - BBC News

 

[macnurv]

Bhai, please take time to go through Khalid Masood Khan's column. Thanks.

Political Columns | Page 44

I am sorry Ali, that articles states nothing new. RAW had been involved in creating unrest in Pakistan, the lack of political will in Pakistan further helped them. In regards to current predicament of MQM, remember the source of information is Scotland Yard, and the whole MQM argument is based on evading facts and trying to spin with completely avoiding the issue at hand. If MQM is innocent, it can approach british courts to get its name clear. I can tell you this now, even after AH is convicted these people will make excuses for him. Besides I am sorry urdu press is nothing short of a joke, their words had lost all appeal and impact.

 

[TankMan]

Bhai, please take time to go through Khalid Masood Khan's column. Thanks.

Political Columns | Page 44

Good read, thank you sir.

As for the issue of BBC's report and the subsequent revelations, I understand there could be legitimate grievances on part of MQM, but they must accept there are elements within it that are involved in serious wrongdoing, and that Altaf Hussain may be involved in them. It's about time the educated members of MQM take control of their party from the criminals and thugs.

Man, you are really on fire today! Didn't get a good Sehri, I guess

Should've drank more lassi.

 

[syedali73]

I am sorry Ali, that articles states nothing new. RAW had been involved in creating unrest in Pakistan, the lack of political will in Pakistan further helped them. In regards to current predicament of MQM, remember the source of information is Scotland Yard, and the whole MQM argument is based on evading facts and trying to spin with completely avoiding the issue at hand. If MQM is innocent, it can approach british courts to get its name clear. I can tell you this now, even after AH is convicted these people will make excuses for him. Besides I am sorry urdu press is nothing short of a joke, their words had lost all appeal and impact.

Before making the statement "I am sorry urdu press is nothing short of a joke", I wonder if you really went through the article? I don't think so. Besides, it is not some funny news but a thought provoking column by Khalid saheb who has an impeccable record of penning down high quality articles. The gist of the article is that Army has to begin the charity of 'accountability' at home to acquire moral legitimacy and gain people's confidence before taking up with other criminal elements. Secondly, Army should facilitate and assist the process by mobilizing FIA and other civilian institutions while keeping itself in the back otherwise the results wont be different than those of previous operations. I do not see any joke in these suggestions.

Good read, thank you sir.

As for the issue of BBC's report and the subsequent revelations, I understand there could be legitimate grievances on part of MQM, but they must accept there are elements within it that are involved in serious wrongdoing, and that Altaf Hussain may be involved in them. It's about time the educated members of MQM take control of their party from the criminals and thugs.


Should've drank more lassi.

I concur my brother. MQM simply cant brush these allegations off by employing previous tactics.

 

[macnurv]

Before making the statement "I am sorry urdu press is nothing short of a joke", I wonder if you really went through the article? I don't think so. Besides, it is not some funny news but a thought provoking column by Khalid saheb who has an impeccable record of penning down high quality articles. The gist of the article is that Army has to begin the charity of 'accountability' at home to acquire moral legitimacy and gain people's confidence before taking up with other criminal elements. Secondly, Army should facilitate and assist the process by mobilizing FIA and other civilian institutions while keeping itself in the back otherwise the results wont be different than those of previous operations. I do not see any joke in these suggestions.

It makes no difference, the issue at hand is questions raised regarding MQM and foreign funding. Pakistans biggest issue is accountability, but some how to suggest first someone else should be held accountable then come to me, this argument makes no sense. Also your attempt to provide breathing space to MQM so it can further spin and make false claims will not work. And yes I could not go beyond the first para as the author is trying to deflect the issue at hand, just like MQM.

 

[Zarvan]

Can BBC lies , or does lied over the years ?

Mr the documentary is based on the testimony of your leaders who admitted taking money from India and training. Your traitor party is exposed and if these are ask MQM to stop lying and go sue BBC in court but they would never do it because they know every thing said is true.

 

[Zarvan]

Can BBC lies , or does lied over the years ?

Mr the documentary is based on the testimony of your leaders who admitted taking money from India and training. Your traitor party is exposed and if these are ask MQM to stop lying and go sue BBC in court but they would never do it because they know every thing said is true.

 

[syedali73]

It makes no difference, the issue at hand is questions raised regarding MQM and foreign funding. Pakistans biggest issue is accountability, but some how to suggest first someone else should be held accountable then come to me, this argument makes no sense. Also your attempt to provide breathing space to MQM so it can further spin and make false claims will not work. And yes I could not go beyond the first para as the author is trying to deflect the issue at hand, just like MQM.

Suit yourself. I am not MQM's advocate but know that there is a proper way of doing everything.

 

[macnurv]

Suit yourself. I am not MQM's advocate but know that there is a proper way of doing everything.

Your political inclinations is your choice and a person with your mater would be an asset to those idiots. But on the current situation, I don't agree with you.

 

[haviZsultan]

I am by birth a muhajir but I will never support or fall for the ethnic polarization and evil the MQM actually represents. I vouch for love and respect with my countrymen and will refrain from the regular rants of Punjabistan, Sindhi chor etc etc. Every Pakistani is my brother. Supporters of MQM must make a simple choice. Whether they want the country or their dumb ethnic organizations. I feel ashamed. The failure of our community doesn't just begin with or end with MQM and its wrongs, it starts with how we lost Bengal by giving patronage to urdu, it also starts with how urdu our main tongue was implemented all across the country, it also starts with how we failed to integrate what is now the Indian muslims as Pakistanis... we should be critical of ourselves not defensive, other ethnicities will soon follow suit. As for me, for me Pakistan is the alpha and omega. I will not bury my head in sand when their are solid reports that MQM is a RAW funded organization. We can either accept it or continue polarizing the country on the basis of ethnicity.

It is the inability to think critically about our ethnic identity is a major problem

 

[syedali73]

Your political inclinations is your choice and a person with your mater would be an asset to those idiots. But on the current situation, I don't agree with you.

My political inclination? Me talking about following proper procedures in investigations and trial renders me an MQM activist? Boy that was fast. Either you have not read my earlier posts or what, members know I am an almost ex PTIan. I had or have nothing to do with MQM. Even in past couple of days, I have held MQM responsible for the large part on the overall state of Karachi.