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Banned groups rally in Pak, rant against US and India

Several thousand Pakistanis poured onto the streets of Islamabad on Monday, chanting "death to America" and demanding holy war at a rally whipped up by right-wing, religious and banned organisations. It was the latest show of support for Defence of Pakistan, a coalition of around 40 parties chaired by a cleric dubbed the father of the Taliban that include organisations blacklisted at home and abroad as terror groups.

"Today, we have gathered here to raise a voice of protest against US intervention in Pakistan," chairman Maulana Sami ul-Haq, who runs an extremist madrassa that educated several Taliban leaders, told AFP. Also present was member Hamid Gul, who headed Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency during the 1980s Pakistani-sponsored war against Soviet troops in Afghanistan that gave rise to al Qaeda and the Taliban.

His membership has helped fuel suspicions that Pakistan's security establishment is backing the coalition as a means of exerting pressure on the weak government and whipping up rhetoric against the unpopular US alliance.

"Our protest is against the possible resumption of NATO supplies, US and Indian occupation and to strengthen the country's defence," Haq told AFP.

"America wants to break Pakistan into pieces," he added in reference to a resolution sponsored by three US lawmakers calling for self-determination in Pakistan's insurgency-torn southwestern province of Baluchistan.

The alliance, which uses Twitter and Facebook to promote its message, was set up after US air strikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on the Afghan border in late November, which saw Pakistan shut its Afghan border to NATO supplies.

"Death to America" and "America deserves one treatment: jihad, jihad" shouted the crowd in a bustling commercial area, an AFP reporter said.

The coalition has already attracted large turnouts at a series of rallies across the country that some see as a build up to contesting Pakistan's next general election, which could be called within months.

Allah Buksh, a senior police official, said 2,500 attended the demonstration as it got underway, but witnesses estimated the crowd at 3,500 as hundreds of riot police, armed with batons and wearing bullet-proof jackets stood guard.

"America can never be our friend, it is our biggest enemy. America will be defeated in Afghanistan and divided into pieces," Mian Aslam, a former lawmaker from the religious Jamaat-e-Islami party told the rally.

Banners strung up in Islamabad denounced US drone strikes on Islamist militants, the government's decision to grant India most favoured nation status in a bid to ease trade, and re-opening the Afghan border to NATO convoys.

"Go America Go," "No to NATO," "Arrogant Americans - others are also human beings," and "the chains of slavery will now break up," they read.

"The friend of the US is a traitor," "the friend of (Pakistani President Asif Ali) Zardari is a traitor" and "the friend of (Afghan President Hamid) Karzai is traitor," shouted the crowd.

The government banned three key members of the alliance from attending, including Hafiz Saeed, who heads Jamaat-ud-Dawa, seen as a front for the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group blamed for the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Organisers said they would not challenge the ban. "We have installed 10,000 chairs for today's rally and expect a very successful show," Yahya Mujahid, a spokesman for JuD, told AFP.

"Hafiz Muhammad Saeed will not come to Islamabad to avoid confrontation with the government and will not attend the rally," Mujahid said.

Banned extremists flock to Islamabad, rally and rant - Hindustan Times
 
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Nothing surprising
it happens almost on weekly basis
 
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please launch jihad against USA as soon as possible"Death to the infidels" than USA will retaliate and we can all live in peace.

Pakistan should launch jihad against poverty & corruption. These are bigger enemy than US and India
 
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so when are you guys attacking the USA........"death to EVIL USA"
 
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Pakistan should launch jihad against poverty & corruption. These are bigger enemy than US and India

Very nice point. Actually the meaning of Jihad is 'to strive', there are many different forms of Jihad, four major forms that I studied in my 10th standard like all the other Pakistanis are:

1. Jihad of the heart (jihad bil qalb/nafs) is concerned with combatting the devil and in the attempt to escape his persuasion to evil. This type of Jihad was regarded as the greater jihad (al-jihad al-akbar).
2. Jihad by the tongue (jihad bil lisan) is concerned with speaking the truth and spreading the word of Islam with one's tongue.
3. Jihad by the hand (jihad bil yad) refers to choosing to do what is right and to combat injustice and what is wrong with action.
4. Jihad by the sword (jihad bis saif) refers to qital fi sabilillah (armed fighting in the way of God, against injustice, against aggression, foreign invasion etc)

So actually, the most preferred form of Jihad is to fight the evil in your own self. Striving for the betterment of the society is also a kind of Jihad. So there's so many misconceptions about the word "Jihad".

Now coming back to the topic, well, I am not a big supporter of these guys, I like JuD and Hamid Gul who are a part of this movement but all other parties are not of that caliber. What I understand from their call for Jihad against India and US is fighting the aggression. In Afghanistan, Pakistan's tribal areas by the US and in Kashmir by India. Justified to me. Will be justified to anyone who cares for humanity and peace. Right of self-defence is a human right.
 
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Very nice point. Actually the meaning of Jihad is 'to strive', there are many different forms of Jihad, three major forms that I studied in my 10th standard like all the other Pakistanis are:

1. Jihad of the heart (jihad bil qalb/nafs) is concerned with combatting the devil and in the attempt to escape his persuasion to evil. This type of Jihad was regarded as the greater jihad (al-jihad al-akbar).
2. Jihad by the tongue (jihad bil lisan) is concerned with speaking the truth and spreading the word of Islam with one's tongue.
3. Jihad by the hand (jihad bil yad) refers to choosing to do what is right and to combat injustice and what is wrong with action.
J4. ihad by the sword (jihad bis saif) refers to qital fi sabilillah (armed fighting in the way of God, against injustice, against aggression, foreign invasion etc)

So actually, the most preferred form of Jihad is to fight the evil in your own self. Striving for the betterment of the society is also a kind of Jihad. So there's so many misconceptions about the word "Jihad".

Now coming back to the topic, well, I am not a big supporter of these guys, I like JuD and Hamid Gul who are a part of this movement but all other parties are not of that caliber. What I understand from their call for Jihad against India and US is fighting the aggression. In Afghanistan, Pakistan's tribal areas by the US and in Kashmir by India. Justified to me. Will be justified to anyone who cares for humanity and peace. Right of self-defence is a human right.

you are explaining it to indians buddy it will fall on def ears dont you see its their favourite thread they found somewhere to troll about i say leave it if the above posts are any mark it will be a massive troll fest:p:P:p:P:P

anyway a sensible post indeed. we should kick usa out of the regions there is too much influence.
 
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good job if US terrorists can bring resolution of cut pakistan in peaces then why not our shout death to USA?

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The rally should have been against the policies that Pakistan made during the previous decades which led to the current mess. That would have made some sense.
 
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So much for the "banned" part....:coffee:

what is banned ? those who challenge USA ISRAEL INDIA? those who disagree and laud against state crimes of big nations? those who even struggle armed are terrorists and banned? first time humans face this funny situation :lol:

nothing is banned if you are powerful simple logic for me .

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The rally should have been against the policies that Pakistan made during the previous decades which led to the current mess. That would have made some sense.

yes thats what expected from our east side :lol:
 
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The rally should have been against the policies that Pakistan made during the previous decades which led to the current mess. That would have made some sense.

its good to be late then never.....
USA is looking into breaking up Pakistan, but how can they face such people who came out of homes... almost 40 different groups joined this call to defend Pakistan...

its a good response to USA .... they will think 100000 times b4 doing anything against Pakistan...
 
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you are explaining it to indians buddy it will fall on def ears dont you see its their favourite thread they found somewhere to troll about i say leave it if the above posts are any mark it will be a massive troll fest:p:P:p:P:P

anyway a sensible post indeed. we should kick usa out of the regions there is too much influence.

Sometimes it's fun to be a 'fun'-stopper at a troll thread ;)
 
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