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Again, you guys open up threads with nothing to back it up with.
There's always those hundreds of CGI's ???
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Again, you guys open up threads with nothing to back it up with.
More people in Pakistan have cars than BD so yes they will be driving on those expressways. 500 KM journey from Peshawar to Lahore takes few hours since driving is a pleasure on those roads. You are building Hospitals? Makes me wonder what those millions of people are doing in India for simple health check-ups.
Your Government does not think differently. Its one of the most corrupt in the world just check the Corruption Perception Index. Its 30 positions lower than Pakistan.
How about a good quality of life? There are 2 million people in Islamabad who enjoy a standard of living similar to the one in the west.
If you guys have trouble making a simple 4 lane road it's quite obvious you can't build a city. There is a reason why traffic in Dhaka is so horrendous because everything in your country is inside Dhaka and nowhere else. Compare Dhaka to Lahore (Population of 10 million). If I post pictures of Lahore you will have trouble keeping up because despite being a 10 million mega city its quite aesthetic in most of the areas. The roads are wide, its clean for a city of 10 million, well maintained by the local government and generates revenue/income at the same time. And above all most of the people in our cities live in nice big houses rather than cramped shady looking apartments like BD . In people from lower middle class have open big houses rather the 1 bedroom apartments you guys live in.
NO respect for neo-nazis, even in ramadan...Fair dinkum.. But i suppose you forgot it was Ramadan when you posted these
Guess its just a momentary lapse..
some people are dancing like monkeys that they have beat Pakistan obviously some big achievement for Bangladesh but the thing is that IMF & other institutions are working on Pakistan GDP calculations which according to all of them is too much underrated hence there is no projection for Pakistan GDP beyond 2017.
Pakistan real GDP calculation might come bt the end of this year as WB is working on it which on a conservative estimate will be higher by 20% at least from current figures.
I hear all the time by Bangalis that their GDP is bigger than Pakistan but i dont see this in consumption pattern of any commodity or house hold income of Bangladeshis as @Nilgiri rightly said Bangladesh figures dont support the actual situation on ground.
This Bihari slum dog
This idiot was just mixing up the two.
Now if you "black cats" want to show me some non-google, non copy-paste economic capability/logic of yours, tell me why there is a difference between the ratio of constant/current GDP per capita when its non-PPP (76%) and PPP (93%) for BD.
Nilgiri is not an angel neither is a Prophet that whatever he says is correct. He is nothing more than a Bihari slum dog troll.
well thats true but if someone is quoting facts and figures cant be wrong.....and if the economy situation which includes per capita, gets better the immediate effect is on consumption pattern which is not the fact in Bangladesh.......see while as per you guys Pakistan per capita is lower then Bangladesh now but still Pakistan retail sector and consumption is fastest in the world and average Pakistani consume every thing almost double then average Bangladeshi.
We are more then happy to see Bangladesh progress and we wish them best as Pakistanis are normally happy people with every thing.....but there is some thing really fishy in the figures your govt quote and consumption patterns whic is direct effect of per capita increase.
This is the reason why Indian real GDP is now higher than it's nominal GDP.In the last 10 year, Indian rupee gone from $1=42 INR to $1=67 INR, a depreciation of 60% against dollar.On the other hand Bangladeshi Taka gone from $1=68 BDT to $1=84 BDT, a depreciation of just 24%. In the last decade, both country's inflation rate did not have much wide gap and it's role in nominal GDP differential is rather sub ordinate to currency depreciation. To avoid this distortion caused by differential rate of currency depreciation against Dollar and inflation rate, it is safe to stick to either Real GDP per capita in exchange rate in constant Dollar or PPP per capita in constant dollar.I prefer the PPP per capita in constant dollar for 3 reasons-
1.Inflation adjusted.
2.No distortion caused by currency exchange rate fluctuation.
3.It gives a balanced picture of purchasing power and living standard across the countries. Specially for both developed and developing countries.
Our current real GDP figure is less than the nominal figure and for India's case it is the opposite.But this is not given for all times.If our currency start depreciating much faster rate than Rupee than a time will come when our real GDP figure will be higher than Nominal figure. During BNP times in 2001-2006 when Taka depreciated much faster against dollar and gone from $1=40 BDT to $1=65 BDT within 5 years, our real GDP figure was higher than Nominal figure. These things are only important if we want to compare GDP per capita in nominal terms.But if we compare in real GDP per capita or PPP per capita in constant dollar, then we don't need to worry about these things or to get confused. Now look at some data-
In 2018, GDP PPP per capita in 2011 constant dollar-
Bangladesh-4,062
India-6,933 - 70% higher than BD
Pakistan-5,056 - 24% higher than BD
In 2006, GDP PPP per capita in 2011 constant dollar-
Bangladesh-2,199
India-3,506 - 59% higher than BD
Pakistan-4,088 - 86% higher than BD
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2018/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=70&pr.y=13&sy=2000&ey=2018&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=513,564,534&s=NGDPRPPPPC&grp=0&a=
Note here that, Pakistan achieved per capita GDP PPP 12 years ago of what Bangladesh achieved just by now! Before 2009, Pakistan's GDP per capita was even higher than India for all along. So some of the things which Pakistan is much ahead of BD or even India, can be realized from these data. Average Pakistani's asset value is twice of a Bangladeshi, it is even higher than an Indian. Reflecting the previous comparative prosperity of Pakistanis. Although both Indians and Bangladeshis are closing this asset gap quickly due to faster rise of per capita GDP, still it will take few years for Indians and a longer time for Bangladesh(15 years at least) to achieve parity with Pakistan. For this same reason Pakistan's household electricity connection and ownership of some other household durable and non durable goods is more than Bangladesh or India. On naked eyes, Pakistan looks much prosperous country than Bangladesh or even in some cases than India. Pakistan's road infrastructure development is also much ahead of Bangladesh and only recently India catched up with them. So although we are touching Pakistan in per capita GDP within next few years, but it will take some more year to reflect that closing on the ground.
@UKBengali @Ashik Mahmud @Bilal9 @TopCat @bluesky @mb444
Thanks for the input. Quite educational.
@Nilgiri
Pakistan is a lost cause, beyond any hope if i concur frankly . Their willingness to invest more toward sunkhole called military expenditure is beyond reason and truly worrysome actually. They actually failed to invest more toward education, health and good governance sector (reformation in civil sector), at long terms it will be India and Bangladesh to dominating economic activities in much South Asia. The only saving grace of Pakistan is they had already placed infrastructure in transportation, logistic, energy and some heavy industry leftover from their robust Economic activities during 60's to 80's decaded but without robust private sector (in which the growth will be halted because of their failed investment toward human sector of their country like health and education) their economy will be deteroriate any further.
@Nilgiri @django
Pakistan's per capita gdp in ppp was 86% higher than BD just 12 years ago, now it is just 24% higher. Pakistan's runaway population growth and lower GDP growth rate will ensure that, this gap will close and eventually reverse within 5-6 years.
Currently an Indian has gdp ppp per capita of 70% higher than a Bangladeshi. Note that, Indian base year is relatively up to date, using 2015-2016 base year, while we are still stuck at 2005-2006. Plus, if we exclude the Vedic calculation in Indian economic data and Modi magic effect which even the top economists are scratching their head to understand India's Vedic GDP growth, then we can safely conclude that, India's GDP ppp per capita is no more than 25%-30% higher than BD in reality and the vast majority Indian have lower living standard than an average Bangladeshi barring a few pocket of prosperity in Gurgaon, Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, Goa and some other capital cities.
But Indian economy is a giant compared to what bd is... in Indian subcontinent... yes bd is doing better than most but I believe this growth is mainly due to the current size, investment opportunities etc... if we can maintain current growth when our gdp reaches india’s Current gdp value should be the question.
Dude, how good were you at mathematics at school?
2 million x 40,000 US dollars per GDP capita PPP = 80 billion US dollars PPP just for 2 million Islamabad!
Who says we have trouble making a 4-lane road?
2 have already been built and a 3rd one is in construction. More have been approved and work will start in this financial year.
About the size of living quarters, so what? People in Japan live in tiny apartments and they are one of the most developed countries in the world. BD does not have as space as Pakistan and so living place will naturally be smaller
Lastly check out RSTP 2016-2035 that is already in the works. Already the 1st metro line, 1st bus rapid-transport line and 1st Elevated expressway are in construction as per this plan. It will cost 40 billion US dollars in total and will give Dhaka and the surrounding areas world-class transport infrastructure.
Sorry dude but you have a severe case of butt-hurt at BD.
It's not me talking it's the people from abroad who share that view.
https://www.diplomaatia.ee/en/article/a-visit-to-pakistan/
My journey began in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan. Islamabad, meaning Abode of Islam, is Pakistan’s government and financial center. It’s an affluent city built 40 years ago at the base of the Margalla Hills. Pakistan’s capital looks more like a wealthy American suburb than the government center of a developing nation – immaculately kept tree-lined sidewalks, large forested parks, three story homes with multiple Mercedes parked out front
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/19/world/asia/19taxes.html
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Much of Pakistan’s capital city looks like a rich Los Angeles suburb. Shiny sport utility vehicles purr down gated driveways. Elegant multistory homes are tended by servants. Laundry is never hung out to dry.
Being compared to LA and a rich American suburb is a high compliment for a city of a developing country. The Houses in Islamabad wouldn't look out of place in Beverly Hills.
Large Parts of Lahore have now started to look exactly Like that too.
Except that the ones in Japan are of high quality unlike the ones in BD. Yeap and when is the completion due? When it gets completed tag me because in my experience they don't. You have been going on about these projects for decades now but nothing on the ground. Well I don't find any Pakistani opening threads about BD. It's usually the posters from your side who are always opening up threads about how they are surpassing Pakistan.
What's the use of shiny airport and 6 lane highways when 42 percent of your population can not read and write? Vast majority of your population is not going to drive SUV on those expressways nor they are going to do holiday trip overseas using those new airport anytime soon. You be happy with those roads and airport, we think differently, govt. is thinking about universal pension in Bangladesh now.We will build highways and airports according to our need. We will rather utilize the existing system to it's fullest and then go for new things, in the meantime will build more powerplant, LNG terminal, Rail tracks, sea ports, school, hospital, Industrial plants, IT parks etc. Your priority and our priority are different.
Its little use. These people are still consuming energy per capita that India and Pakistan did in the 50s and 60s (I kid you not, look at my earlier post above)....I think it has affected their logic circuits quite badly (from even forming). This has led to propaganda and feelz filling the void of the ego (like say super duper life expectancy on BBS-stronk paper but with 1 million medical refugees yearly to India for basic 50s/60s tech things).
Why do you think they based their very existence as a country on 3 million-blah blah?
@django @Desert Fox @Valar. @Major Sam @Pluralist
I always see so many thread on Bangladeshi development etc but I never see any evidence. If you ever visit skyscrapercity (premier forum to track development in different countries) and look at the Bangladeshi section it is completely dead. Compared to Pakistan or India. So Bangladesh is growing at 7 percent with nothing to show for it? While Pakistan with its measly 5 percent growth completes project after project.
Pakistan: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451
Bangladesh: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
I always see so many thread on Bangladeshi development etc but I never see any evidence. If you ever visit skyscrapercity (premier forum to track development in different countries) and look at the Bangladeshi section it is completely dead. Compared to Pakistan or India. So Bangladesh is growing at 7 percent with nothing to show for it? While Pakistan with its measly 5 percent growth completes project after project.
Pakistan: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451
Bangladesh: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
Let's be honest how many famous people can we name from Bangladesh despite living closer to them?. They act out and try really hard to get noticed.
That’s a comment on your education but happily you can rectify it.
Another thing is Pakistan is for rich people. you can live like a king in Pakistan if you are rich. In a huge beautiful house in Islamabad. But in Bangladesh rich or poor we live a humble life. (Apart from Bilal bhai's 300 taka tea of course )