Bangladesh alone can’t take Rohingya responsibilities: Dhaka tells UK

[Bilal9]

I've rarely seen such BS being paraded around - trying to get India, an uninvolved and frankly uninterested party - just to display Hinduphobia.

India has business interests with Myanmar. India doesn't give a crap about anything else with Myanmar - that includes the 'will he, won't he' between Bangladesh and Myanmar on Rohingyas. Don't drag us into your crap. If you want to take Rohingyas, take them, if you don't want to, don't.

It seems - my Bajraangi Bhaijaan, you're the one peddling the BS here...

These were the defence agreements that were signed between India and Myanmar after Modi arrived for a three-day visit to Myanmar. Even prior to your nation selling that Kilo sub to them and training their Navy to operate one.

• MoU on Maritime Security Cooperation
• MoU for Sharing White Shipping Information between the Indian Navy and Myanmar Navy
• Technical Agreement for providing Coastal Surveillance System

So - if we are Hinduphobes in Bangladesh, how come the CEO's of the largest companies in Bangladesh are successively all Passport holding Indian Hindus - hundreds of them in dozens of companies?? Can you even think of the same happening in India? Bangladesh Muslims being CEO's in India? Heaven forbid...

https://www.grameenphone.com/about/...ppointed-chief-executive-officer-grameenphone

https://www.grameenphone.com/about/...lease/rajeev-sethi-appointed-ceo-grameenphone

https://www.banglalink.net/en/about-us/management-team/CC

 

[Robbie]

It seems - my Bajraangi Bhaijaan, you're the one peddling the BS here...

These were the defence agreements that were signed between India and Myanmar after Modi arrived for a three-day visit to Myanmar. Even prior to your nation selling that Kilo sub to them and training their Navy to operate one.

• MoU on Maritime Security Cooperation
• MoU for Sharing White Shipping Information between the Indian Navy and Myanmar Navy
• Technical Agreement for providing Coastal Surveillance System

Allow me to call out the BS you're peddling. India signs such agreements with many countries. Such Naval MoU's are signed with Bangladesh as well. Does that mean India supports the Hinduphobia and killing of Hindu and secular bloggers in Bangladesh?

Trying to connect unrelated events and pin the blame on India is what a typical India hater and Hinduphobe does.

Do you want me to show just how much military equipment China has sold to Myanmar? Or the level of the deep connections between Myanmar military and China? On what basis are you connecting India and Rohingya issue but not China.

So - if we are Hinduphobes in Bangladesh, how come the CEO's of the largest companies in Bangladesh are successively all Passport holding Indian Hindus - hundreds of them in dozens of companies?? Can you even think of the same happening in India? Bangladesh Muslims being CEO's in India? Heaven forbid...

https://www.grameenphone.com/about/...ppointed-chief-executive-officer-grameenphone

https://www.grameenphone.com/about/...lease/rajeev-sethi-appointed-ceo-grameenphone
https://www.banglalink.net/en/about-us/management-team/CC

Yes, India usually India has had Muslim Presidents, head of India's intelligence organizations or Governors or CCS level Ministers (Cabinet Committee on Security, the highest security-related decision-making body in India).

Your personal Hindu and India hatred is visible in this thread where you are trying to drag India in a situation that India is not related to, not concerned about and actually where if you start making specious connections - China and Pakistan turn out to be much more closely connected than India.

 

[bluesky]

How can you be so sure if may I ask ? What if India want to reach to Dhaka do you have the air defense system to prevent it ? Take a look here .

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=644043112840061

There are many sushils who love to say it . I believe you are not like them , so please refrain from saying so . And the entire family was not killed by military , but by some misguided soldiers .


You are also agreeing on this ? Has the sun risen form the west side ? It's not good sign IMHO . I believe their policy is not docile , just critical . What people believe Bangladeshi regime is actually the opposite . It's not necessarily California and democracy is not dominant here . So do not be fooled by what Momen and other ministers say . Only Hasina is the key and she has very much trusted relationship with Military . So she is the only policy maker not other ministers !

Who will do the job now ? Will a so called self assured leadership go and fight with enemy or military will ? Live today , fight tomorrow , that is the best way I would say . If you need to protect Dhaka at all cost , you have to develop your Air force first . leading a nation surrounded by hostile entities is the most difficult thing to do in reality !. It take more than arm chair analysis in safe living room !

As usual, you are responding illogically. Your posts are too long with meaningless BAL jargon. Sometimes it is difficult to see what you really want to say. Many sentences are clumsy.

You always flatter Hasina as if no one else ever did anything to the country. What are you talking about Indian aggression? Do you think our armed forces at that time will remain inactive even if Hasina wants them to?

Hasina remains inactive at the aggressive behavior of MM. She does not want military people to be in front of her by any chance. She is shaming BD when her foreign minister expresses his eternal love for India by saying India-BD friendship is like husband-wife relationship. What a way of talking diplomacy! And you are all praise for these BAL idiots.

Do not you think BAL leadership are shaming the country? I wonder at whose behest Momen was selected as FM? Does he know diplomacy? No one ever heard of him before he was FM. It was the same with that Dipu Moni. Both may have been selected by the Indian insistence.

It is a discussion forum where you tend to work as a BAL front very nakedly. You are the only one very naked. Please be rational and logical instead of praising every BAL wrong action. People should be neutral in a forum and not become the tail of a certain nasty political party.

 

[Avicenna]

As usual, you are responding illogically. Your posts are too long with meaningless BAL jargon. Sometimes it is difficult to see what you really want to say. Many sentences are clumsy.

You always flatter Hasina as if no one else ever did anything to the country. What are you talking about Indian aggression? Do you think our armed forces at that time will remain inactive even if Hasina wants them to?

Hasina remains inactive at the aggressive behavior of MM. She does not want military people to be in front of her by any chance. She is shaming BD when her foreign minister expresses his eternal love for India by saying India-BD friendship is like husband-wife relationship. What a way of talking diplomacy! And you are all praise for these BAL idiots.

Do not you think BAL leadership are shaming the country? I wonder at whose behest Momen was selected as FM? Does he know diplomacy? No one ever heard of him before he was FM. It was the same with that Dipu Moni. Both may have been selected by the Indian insistence.

It is a discussion forum where you tend to work as a BAL front very nakedly. You are the only one very naked. Please be rational and logical instead of praising every BAL wrong action. People should be neutral in a forum and not become the tail of a certain nasty political party.

Amazing.

"She is shaming BD when her foreign minister expresses his eternal love for India by saying India-BD friendship is like husband-wife relationship. What a way of talking diplomacy!"

That is absolute humiliation to reference your own country in that sort of relationship with another.

I've said it before, there is a distinct lack of sophistication apparent when Bangladeshi officials open their mouths.

Which is a shame.....because Bengalis are VERY capable cerebral people.

It's unfortunate to have the above be the case.

I don't refute and the point I made with respect to US and UK whom they send ACs to Arabian and BoB. My bad. Yes Soviet Union helped India which military made Americans thrice of attacking India and they even amassed soldiers at Chinese borders.
I don't have an issue with BD having a independent policy. My problem comes with inferiority complex fellas dragging India in every thread. This thread had nothing to do with India. By the same breadth these same fellas won't open mouth on a Chinese role in the Rakhine area.
If BD is independent so is Myanmar. Have you seen them complain the relationship India has with BD? BD members have a problem with India giving a 30 year old sub while they irrespective of Chinese role played in Burma has no issues buying Chinese weapons themselves. India directly or indirectly has no role in their displacement of Rohingyas. Then why blame us. I had to give these fellas in a way they understand. They talk as if we didn't do them a favor in 71'. What about shelter, food, training for some 12 million folks. It's said a guest shouldn't point out the good deeds done. But do they even have some shame? Doesn't it applies to the other side too? I don't want to sound too arrogant. No nation is selfless. But all these members talk is destroying India and getting some land area. It's sickening. Do you sir take lightly when Afghan refugees who lives in your country wants a part of your country to be merged with Afg?

As for national politics, that is not the Topic of this particular discussion. MMS or Modi the govt foreign policy seldom changes. As for internal politics that's a separate topic.
I hope you are comfortable as well.

Do yourself a favor and dig back to late 2017 and see the posts regarding the BD forum member's perception of China in regards to Myanmar/Rohingya.

Also, you may not have an issue with BD having an independent foreign policy, but others in your country seem to.

Case in point, the following video regarding Bangladesh buying 2 rust buckets called submarines from China.

Indulge me and watch the whole video.

Some of the questions sort of give away what India thinks of Bangladesh. (i.e. having to take into considering Indian interests before acting. i.e. NOT respecting sovereignty)

Finally, sh#t like this doesn't make India all that endearing to Bangladeshis

 

[bluesky]

Amazing.

"She is shaming BD when her foreign minister expresses his eternal love for India by saying India-BD friendship is like husband-wife relationship. What a way of talking diplomacy!"

That is absolute humiliation to reference your own country in that sort of relationship with another.

I've said it before, there is a distinct lack of sophistication apparent when Bangladeshi officials open their mouths.

Which is a shame.....because Bengalis are VERY capable cerebral people.

It's unfortunate to have the above be the case.

Bold part: People who we call BCS (Bangladesh Civil Service) officers are highly educated, knowledgeable and sophisticated. On the other hand, almost all politicians together are a bunch of low grade ignoramus who did not study well in schools, did not get good jobs and consequently went after politics some of whom are successful with top govt posts.

But, they lack visions and knowledge. It is same with all other political parties in BD. Hasina and Khaleda belong to the same ignoramus group. Hasina received her two-year Bachelor's of Arts certificate by getting a few grace marks (this is what her husband stated in his book) and Khaleda did not even matriculate.

I would not say school education should be cited as the main criteria for becoming a state leader. The quality to provide leadership is the main point. Hasina failed because the Burmese know she is weak and her greed for solo fame would cause her not to ask for a military confrontation.

- The scenario was different when General Ayub Khan was the President of Pakistan. PA troops pushed the Burmese troops away from the northern bank of Naf Dariya (river). Middle line of the Naf then became the boundary line between the two countries. Before that MM was occupying our north bank as well.

- MM did not have the courage to push the Rohingyas when Ziaur Rahman was the President although India must have supported it to embarass Zia who antagonized India.

- Khaleda ordered BDR (BGB) troops to challenge MM from building structures in the Naf Dariya in 2001. BDR troops not asking helps from BA troops unilaterally pushed back MM troops while BA units were waiting in Ramu.

- In 2008 MM oil companies started digging for oil/gas in an contested sea. General Moin sent naval ships and the MM navy backed away.

Should Hasina be with manly courage, MM would not have expelled the Muslim Rohingya to BD. MM knew all along that Hasina is a spineless and characterless psyche without love for a country whose people killed her entire family.

Note one point that Rohingya are the native people in Arakan and Burma occupied this land only in 1784. Arakan became a Protectorate of Bangalah Sultanate in 1430 during the time of Sultan Ghiyasuddin Azam Shah.

But, I wonder if this BAL political group knows about this old Arakan history and its relationship with Bengal? They are soo ignorant!! Khaleda was greedy but courageous, but Hasina is both greedy and coward.

 

[Avicenna]

Bold part: People who we call BCS (Bangladesh Civil Service) officers are highly educated, knowledgeable and sophisticated. On the other hand, almost all politicians together are a bunch of low grade ignoramus who did not study well in schools, did not get good jobs and consequently went after politics some of whom are successful with top govt posts.

But, they lack visions and knowledge. It is same with all other political parties in BD. Hasina and Khaleda belong to the same ignoramus group. Hasina received her two-year Bachelor's of Arts certificate by getting a few grace marks (this is what her husband stated in his book) and Khaleda did not even matriculate.

I would not say school education should be cited as the main criteria for becoming a state leader. The quality to provide leadership is the main point. Hasina failed because the Burmese know she is weak and her greed for solo fame would cause her not to ask for a military confrontation.

- The scenario was different when General Ayub Khan was the President of Pakistan. PA troops pushed the Burmese troops away from the northern bank of Naf Dariya (river). Middle line of the Naf then became the boundary line between the two countries. Before that MM was occupying our north bank as well.

- MM did not have the courage to push the Rohingyas when Ziaur Rahman was the President although India must have supported it to embarass Zia who antagonized India.

- Khaleda ordered BDR (BGB) troops to challenge MM from building structures in the Naf Dariya in 2001. BDR troops not asking helps from BA troops unilaterally pushed back MM troops while BA units were waiting in Ramu.

- In 2008 MM oil companies started digging for oil/gas in an contested sea. General Moin sent naval ships and the MM navy backed away.

Should Hasina be with manly courage, MM would not have expelled the Muslim Rohingya to BD. MM knew all along that Hasina is a spineless and characterless psyche without love for a country whose people killed her entire family.

Note one point that Rohingya are the native people in Arakan and Burma occupied this land only in 1784. Arakan became a Protectorate of Sube Bangal in 1430 during the time of Sultan Ghiyasuddin Azam Shah.

But, I wonder if this BAL political group knows about this old Arakan history and its relationship with Bengal? They are soo ignorant!! Khaleda was greedy but courageous, but Hasina is both greedy and coward.

This is from 2012.

Burma read her well.

Her answers are both WEAK and inhumane.

 

[bluesky]

This is from 2012.

Burma read her well.

Her answers are both WEAK and inhumane.

Hasina-like leaders of the country called Bangladesh lack dignity and this is why it is kicked by others. Hasina remains weak because a confrontational attitude towards MM will cause the military to get out of the barracks. She does not appreciate it knowing that the military will then oust her from power.

She is more worried about Pilkhana BDR revolt that killed more than 52 BA Officers. Who instigated that and who will be blamed? Military know very well who were the criminal masterminds.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Amazing.

"She is shaming BD when her foreign minister expresses his eternal love for India by saying India-BD friendship is like husband-wife relationship. What a way of talking diplomacy!"

That is absolute humiliation to reference your own country in that sort of relationship with another.

I've said it before, there is a distinct lack of sophistication apparent when Bangladeshi officials open their mouths.

Which is a shame.....because Bengalis are VERY capable cerebral people.

It's unfortunate to have the above be the case.



Do yourself a favor and dig back to late 2017 and see the posts regarding the BD forum member's perception of China in regards to Myanmar/Rohingya.

Also, you may not have an issue with BD having an independent foreign policy, but others in your country seem to.

Case in point, the following video regarding Bangladesh buying 2 rust buckets called submarines from China.

Indulge me and watch the whole video.

Some of the questions sort of give away what India thinks of Bangladesh. (i.e. having to take into considering Indian interests before acting. i.e. NOT respecting sovereignty)

Finally, sh#t like this doesn't make India all that endearing to Bangladeshis

Why go to 2017? In this very thread see post #3,4,5,15..... No Indian commented before your inferiority complex compatriots started the riot.

Just cos it happened in 2017 means all is forgotten? Or this is reserved for China cos BD members like to suck up to them?

It's not like BD members attitude became anti India after Amit Shah made this remark. I have been watching the forum for quite sometime and I know what BD members have been posting going back to 2015 timelines. Have you ever seen any Indian members wanting BD's land? Illegal migrants have been caught and deported as far back as Bangalore, Chennai and even Coimbatore. Your own war criminals had been comfortable living in Kolkata for 2-3 decades. (That's a different topic. I had to talk since you brought AS Termite remark).

Since sir you are taking moral high ground I haven't seen you or others(except 1-2) correct any BD members for inaccuracies/lies in their post in any topic unrelated to Indians and expect us to be good.

All I want is good relationship btw both countries. Most members I know doesn't want an iota of land from BD. What we want is taking back illegal migrants (which after verification and taking BD govt into confidence) and respect and not inferiority complex folks with Hinduphobia here.

 

[bluesky]

All I want is good relationship btw both countries. Most members I know doesn't want an iota of land from BD. What we want is taking back illegal migrants (which after verification and taking BD govt into confidence) and respect and not inferiority complex folks with Hinduphobia here.

Bold part: Who divulged you this small intelligence that BD people go to you poor country? You are pretending as if India has already become another America. After all, your GDP is now above UK. Do you think any one from BD would ever think of migrating to India where people go out for defecating? All our houses, rich or poor, are fitted with toilets.

Please do not flatter yourself by making this kind of Amit Shah statement.

 

[Nilgiri]

Why go to 2017? In this very thread see post #3,4,5,15..... No Indian commented before your inferiority complex compatriots started the riot.

Just cos it happened in 2017 means all is forgotten? Or this is reserved for China cos BD members like to suck up to them?

It's not like BD members attitude became anti India after Amit Shah made this remark. I have been watching the forum for quite sometime and I know what BD members have been posting going back to 2015 timelines. Have you ever seen any Indian members wanting BD's land? Illegal migrants have been caught and deported as far back as Bangalore, Chennai and even Coimbatore. Your own war criminals had been comfortable living in Kolkata for 2-3 decades. (That's a different topic. I had to talk since you brought AS Termite remark).

Since sir you are taking moral high ground I haven't seen you or others(except 1-2) correct any BD members for inaccuracies/lies in their post in any topic unrelated to Indians and expect us to be good.

All I want is good relationship btw both countries. Most members I know doesn't want an iota of land from BD. What we want is taking back illegal migrants (which after verification and taking BD govt into confidence) and respect and not inferiority complex folks with Hinduphobia here.

Please, avicenna is a more cool-headed level-headed one. Fits his name to some degree.

He actually hits like and supports bluesky and finds him to be a bangladeshi to begin with for a reason (unlike some of the ones you are referencing).

They are not a monolith here....not even close.

The ones you are referencing (regarding this instigation and downstream contour of thread like so many other places) are complete fried-brain types that have failed at life.

Read this full thread top to bottom for just one example of the first one:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hous...pharmaceutical-industry.657225/#post-12155393

Then read this exchange for what kind of emotional-giddiness is present in the other one (that not too long ago also put bluesky on 6 month and 1 year long ignores):

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/coro...dates-discussion.657262/page-14#post-12205223

They were born a certain way, and will remain that certain way. No fixing it. Just sequester them away and treat as non-entities to begin with...so you can interact with the few BD ppl that actually have some basic worth and sustenance to them...if and when the thread/topic arises for it.

Its much more simpler and better interaction that way.

They have driven away good BD members like Loki a long time ago...they specifically did so that they are left with easier scapegoats and bogeymen here. Got to understand that to understand them....it fits hand in glove to their country "ethos" increasingly too it seems...an extreme 95% "seat won" electioneering...that buys them so much credibility in the end:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World

Let them be what they are, they love the echo chamber insulation just as much as western neighbour....if not more. Everyone will definitely thus dump reality on them, either steady stream of it or large spurts all at once at great cost to them too.

It is what it is. This is the liberation tax....the pet project of others, never them (given they are the ones that keep making these emotional decisions, suffer consequences for it, never learn, and blame everyone else first thing)....changing that, needs them to undo centuries, likely milennia of their psyche by themselves.

If you have met enough you will simply know they are not cut out for all that in enough prevalence....they prefer being lazy and grossly incompetent.... or coat-tailing as "indian" restaurant owners whenever possible for a reason.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

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Read this full thread top to bottom for just one example of the first one:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hous...pharmaceutical-industry.657225/#post-12155393

WTF, did he actually accuse dbc of being a false - flag Indian

 

[Bilal9]

WTF, did he actually accuse dbc of being a false - flag Indian

Schmuck there forgot to mention that two posts later I did apologize to dbc and have exchanged ideas dozens of times with him. But then - this is typical Sanghi scum behavior. Behaving like underclass folk.

How many Pakistanis has this clown managed to convince that Bangladesh is incompetent and is their enemy?

Not a small number.

Every time he tags Pakistani members and they dance to his tune - I am deeply ashamed and ask Parwardegar-e-Aalam what is wrong with some people, did Allah seal their hearts and blind them? Do they not see reality?

Think who you're befriending, a Sanghi. Someone who took an oath to destroy Pakistan.

"Kashmir Mangoge to Pakistan tod denge...", standard verse in Sanghi youth camps.

Bangladeshis have no such wish, they only wish the best for Pakistan, despite occasional fracas and brotherly disputes.

 

[Nilgiri]

WTF, did he actually accuse dbc of being a false - flag Indian

The first reaction is always the most honest one to a person's true character. In this case a severe derangement....(as if bringing up India in a China-US specific thread was not bad enough).

It will still go...to this day.... promoting that bluesky is just an account of mine...or some hindu false flagger. Even with rest of BD membership long acknowledging that bluesky is Bangladeshi and has his unique point of view on matters.

It curls up and cries each time BD members here hit a like on bluesky post for a reason.

Just to give you some idea of the deepness of its pitiful, wretched state. One would hope BD has as few of these kinds as possible...but who knows....maybe it explains the princess-drama state its in.

 

[Tom-tom]

Schmuck there forgot to mention that two posts later I did apologize to dbc and have exchanged ideas dozens of times with him. But then - this is typical Sanghi scum behavior. Behaving like underclass folk.

How many Pakistanis has this clown managed to convince that Bangladesh is incompetent and is their enemy?

Not a small number.

Every time he tags Pakistani members and they dance to his tune - I am deeply ashamed and ask Parwardegar-e-Aalam what is wrong with some people, did Allah seal their hearts and blind them? Do they not see reality?

Think who you're befriending, a Sanghi. Someone who took an oath to destroy Pakistan.

"Kashmir Mangoge to Pakistan tod denge...", standard verse in Sanghi youth camps.

Bangladeshis have no such wish, they only wish the best for Pakistan, despite occasional fracas and brotherly disputes.

Paks and Indian hate each other but in secret behind the scenes they have fondness for each other, especially when it's discussing a country that's " beneath them like bangladesh".

The sikh in uk are a prime example in the uk they talk about how much they hate/resent Muslims, if it's a Pakistani all a sudden they kiss up to them, with them some of their daughters get involved with pak men and in some cases it turns abusive.

Then the sikhs have the nerve blame it on Muslims men in general..

 

[bluesky]

The first reaction is always the most honest one to a person's true character. In this case a severe derangement....(as if bringing up India in a China-US specific thread was not bad enough).

It will still go...to this day.... promoting that bluesky is just an account of mine...or some hindu false flagger. Even with rest of BD membership long acknowledging that bluesky is Bangladeshi and has his unique point of view on matters.

It curls up and cries each time BD members here hit a like on bluesky post for a reason.

Just to give you some idea of the deepness of its pitiful, wretched state. One would hope BD has as few of these kinds as possible...but who knows....maybe it explains the princess-drama state its in.

There was a stupid poster who claimed, as a proof of BD's rise to a developed status, that BD people drink Tk300 a cup of tea. When another protested this false statement by saying tea at only Tk8 per cup, the former abused the latter as a Sanghi false flagger and asked moderators to ban him. Further down the road, when @Atlas defended the latter, this ignoramus 21st century snob the @Billu guy cursed him by claiming it is @bluesky in another name.

But, it is better that you do not come up with this issue again. Let bygone be bygone. However, I have no change from the stance of truthfulness, sincerity and humility. Talking big does not make a country big.

By the way, you are one poster who believes in less in humility and more in humiliating BD. Both @Billu and you should change yourselves. BD is not what @Billu the great claims and it is not so underdeveloped that you claim.