Bahrain executes three Shiites in first capital punishment since 2010

[Saif al-Arab]

To all the few remaining Arab users here on PDF.

Stop discussing Arab affairs with non-Arabs. 99% of them are highly ignorant and nothing good comes out of wasting your time on nonsense. None of this matters. We are wasting our time. I stopped taking this forum seriously ages ago.

Anyway this thread deals with good news. 3 terrorists executed. Next.

 

[Gasoline]

Isn't Saudia a failed state? A household is rulling that country for several decades forcefully, thanks to Britain and western countries....

Compared to others people around us including your country [Iran] NO !

It's better than a fake democratic system while cleric or supreme leader is the real president. Thanks to France.

 

[BHarwana]

Isn't Saudia a failed state? A household is rulling that country for several decades forcefully, thanks to Britain and western countries....

Compared to others people around us including your country [Iran] NO !

It's better than a fake democratic system while cleric or supreme leader is the real president. Thanks to France.

Why are you both fighting, learn to tolerate each other. We all believe in Allah Pak and Holy Qurran. every thing comes after that. you both are Muslims.

 

[Asghar1234]

Compared to others people around us including your country [Iran] NO !

It's better than a fake democratic system while cleric or supreme leader is the real president. Thanks to France.

My father says 98% of the people voted to Iran's current government.

Seconly in Iran an election hold every year.

I am proud that I am living in a none dictatorship country thanks God.

 

[The SC]

I also have the Irani article which tells a different story and I also didn't posted few parts of the article below this paragraph have you read them as well . Look cry a river build a bridge and get over the idea of sectarian divide. Look at Syria the entire country is in ruins because of sectarian divide. If we Muslims will not learn from this entire Arabia will become Syria. Learn and stop the divide before the divide consumes the nation. tolerance is what you all require. Jihad is not only a fight against an opponent. Jihad starts first with in our own selves, Sabar is the biggest Jihad, Tolerance is a Jihad and people doing these two Jihad will walk in Janat before any one else. Those who died in Yemen because of Starving will walk into Janat before Saudis, Those who died in Aleppo will walk into Janat before Iranis. I have only one word for KSA and Iran "STOP"

The differences are mainly political, the sectarianism is a "cover" for the political differences, what is special about it is when the cover becomes bigger than the politics and overwhelm them, hence the real differences that could be resolved politically take a religious dimension an complicates the solutions.. if one was a conspiracy theorist, this is what he would have done to divide and rule his opponents.. this is part of what is apparent and also some part of what is hidden in these conflicts found (stirred) throughout the Muslim world..

 

[Khanate]

Pakistani I am not interested to talk with your obsessive kind (a minority among your contrymen) You can yell mulla mulla day and night but my country is 1000 times better than yours in any aspect and u know it. You are just a typicall butthurt.

97 Bahraini protestees killed since 2011:

http://bahrainjdm.hopto.org/78-killed-since-14th-february-2011

Only if you consider your 1,000 bigger noses better than yes you are correct.

 

[Gasoline]

To all the few remaining Arab users here on PDF.

Stop discussing Arab affairs with non-Arabs. 99% of them are highly ignorant and nothing good comes out of wasting your time on nonsense. None of this matters. We are wasting our time.

Anyway this thread deals with good news. 3 terrorists executed. Next.

Agreed. You can't lean anything here, every where you go you find Sunni-Shia BS.

Check out China & Turkey forums, they have good stuffs there .

 

[Saif al-Arab]

@Gasoline and @Arabi

should we follow this proposal from this Kuwaiti lady and try to implement it in KSA?

Agreed. You can't lean anything here, every where you go you find Sunni-Shia BS.

Check out China & Turkey forums, they have good stuffs there .

This forum has gone down the drain completely. Not sure what we are doing here nowadays really.

Somebody should create an international Arab forum where military and news can be combined with non-military news. So much ignorance/nonsense out there. It is much needed.

The existing Arab ones (Defence Arab, Arabic-Military etc.) are fine but we need to reach out to a bigger audience.

 

[somebozo]

Firstly why Emirati police were in Bahrain to crackdown Bahrani people?

Second there are 'no evidences' to show these three youth made that bombing or any other bombings.

For same reasons IRGC is in Syria..fighting off terrorist..

Isn't Saudia a total failed state? A household is rulling that country for several decades forcefully, thanks to Britain and western countries... couple memebers of a a household decide for millions of peole for decades.


I agree.

And i am making a decent living from this failed state for last 30 years..amazing..isnt it?

Compared to others people around us including your country [Iran] NO !

It's better than a fake democratic system while cleric or supreme leader is the real president. Thanks to France.

Everything is in the hand of so called supreme leader with no over sight...

he is the richest man in the world...net worth exceeding 90B from all the illegal smuggling business, cartels and stealing property from its own citizens..



Iran's government, believe it or not, does have some democratic institutions (whether or not the elections to fill them are reputable is another question). It has a legislature and a president, both selected by Iranian voters. But it also has a supreme leader, whose title makes clear that he's both more powerful than the president and not democratically elected.

The first and perhaps more important take-away from this chart is that the unelected parts of Iran's government are more powerful than the elected parts. An imperfect but useful comparison might be to think of the American political system, in which we elect our president and legislature, arguably the two most powerful branches, but not our supreme court.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...a-chart-explaining-it/?utm_term=.55389db50198

 

[Safriz]

The problem with Shai is that they have sold their souls to a political theocracy called Iran which only came into being in 1978 but shia faith is much older.
Every Shia thinks that it's his her religious duty to support whatever rubbish Iranian government comes up with.It's another thing that shia were at peace with sunni before shia iran came into being in 1978 and hijacked shia faith for using it for political reasons.
Saudia Arabia is the custodian of our holy places and we will continue to support the kingdom.

 

[camel]

Somebody should create an international Arab forum where military and news can be combined with non-military news. So much ignorance/nonsense out there. It is much needed.

Doesn't work. Forum has to be either English or Arabic. An English Arab forum won't attract many from Arab states, on avg their English isn't that good.

 

[Asghar1234]

For same reasons IRGC is in Syria..fighting off terrorist..



And i am making a decent living from this failed state for last 30 years..amazing..isnt it?

Everything is in the hand of so called supreme leader with no over sight...

he is the richest man in the world...net worth exceeding 90B from all the illegal smuggling business, cartels and stealing property from its own citizens..



Iran's government, believe it or not, does have some democratic institutions (whether or not the elections to fill them are reputable is another question). It has a legislature and a president, both selected by Iranian voters. But it also has a supreme leader, whose title makes clear that he's both more powerful than the president and not democratically elected.

The first and perhaps more important take-away from this chart is that the unelected parts of Iran's government are more powerful than the elected parts. An imperfect but useful comparison might be to think of the American political system, in which we elect our president and legislature, arguably the two most powerful branches, but not our supreme court.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...a-chart-explaining-it/?utm_term=.55389db50198

This is Iran's leader house in Mashhad:

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Doesn't work. Forum has to be either English or Arabic. An English Arab forum won't attract many from Arab states, on avg their English isn't that good.

Why not?

Follow the model of

http://defense-arab.com/vb/

http://www.arabic-military.com

http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/

etc.

in terms of military news and discussions but divide the forum into military and non-military.

Make 1 section in English and 1 in Arabic.

The Arab diaspora is the largest in the world (of all ethnicities) so such forum would have no problem with attracting people.

The problem is more that people have left forums for social media (Twitter, Facebook etc.)

Check out Reddit too (Arabs).

A good example of mostly diaspora Arabs from all across the Arab world discussing everything.

Anyway I don't have the time, energy etc. for such a thing but I am sure that it could be done and for all I know such a forum might exist.

I mean in every single Arab country you can find forums about everything but as I said in this era of social media forums are dying slowly but surely.

Actually a lot of people in the Arab world, at least GCC, try to use English speaking forums to improve their English. Also many speak English well nowadays. Well enough to communicate at least.

People are not a problem but organization is and making a name for yourself as a forum so you can attract enough of people so the forum remains active. Also such a forum aimed at such a large mass of people should be inclusive and give room to most views. This is the hardest job.

 

[HAIDER]

Very sad news. Royal Monarchy is old tool of controlling masses. Try adopt democracy.

The problem with Shai is that they have sold their souls to a political theocracy called Iran which only came into being in 1978 but shia faith is much older.
Every Shia thinks that it's his her religious duty to support whatever rubbish Iranian government comes up with.It's another thing that shia were at peace with sunni before shia iran came into being in 1978 and hijacked shia faith for using it for political reasons.
Saudia Arabia is the custodian of our holy places and we will continue to support the kingdom.

Sadly , whenever shia raise the voice , opponent next minute affiliate with Iran.......don t understand why. Now poor Iraq fighting against ISIS for there survival , but for no reason opponent affiliate with Iran.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

To all the few remaining Arab users here on PDF.

Stop discussing Arab affairs with non-Arabs. 99% of them are highly ignorant and nothing good comes out of wasting your time on nonsense. None of this matters. We are wasting our time. I stopped taking this forum seriously ages ago.

Anyway this thread deals with good news. 3 terrorists executed. Next.

Seems like you already made up your mind about the 3 Bahrainis who were executed. This pretty much reiterates the point I made earlier about how so many Gulf Arabs are too sectarian-minded and bigoted to stand for justice in their own countries. At the end of the day, their blind loyalty to their tribe and sect overrides their ability to do the right thing.

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https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde11/5454/2017/en/

After a bomb blast killed three policemen in the village of al-Daih (west of the capital, Manama) on 3 March 2014, the security forces raided a number of homes and arrested at least 25 people, including the 10 men. Many of those who were arrested and later released said they were tortured or otherwise ill-treated.

The 10 men’s trial began on 30 April 2014 before the High Criminal Court in Manama. On 26 February 2015, all men were convicted; Ali Abdulshaheed al-Sankis, Sami Mirza Mshaima’ and Abbas Jamil Taher Mhammad al-Samea were sentenced to death; while Ahmad Jaafar Mhamad ‘Ali, ‘Ali Jamil Taher Mhamad al-Samea, Taher Youssif Ahmed Mhamad al-Samie, Hussein Ahmad Rashed Khalil, Redha Mirza Mshaima’, Hussein Sabah Abdulhussein and Ahmad M’touq Ibrahim were sentenced to life imprisonment. Their lawyers complained that during the first two hearings they were not given access to all the evidence available against the defendants, which prevented them from adequately defending their clients. Nor were they allowed to cross-examine the prosecution witnesses. They withdrew from the case in October 2014 in protest. The Ministry of Justice appointed two lawyers from those who had previously withdrawn from the case. They reiterated the same demands made by the lawyers who withdrew in October, which the court again refused. On 31 May 2016 their convictions were upheld by the Appeal Court which were overturned on 17 October by the Court of Cassation who ordered their retrial by the same Appeal Court. The Appeal Court again upheld the sentences on 4 December.

Abbas Jamil Taher Mhammad al-Samea, a 26-year-old schoolteacher, was arrested at midnight on 3 March 2014. He said he had been in school at the time of the bombing and had presented a letter from the school corroborating this. Following his arrest, he was detained at the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) for 25 days without access to a lawyer and said that he was tortured, including by being beaten, deprived of sleep, denied adequate food and water, burnt with cigarettes, suspended and sexually assaulted, and threatened with death and the revocation of his nationality by interrogators. Following his sentencing, a video was circulated on social media showing Abbas al-Samea’ alleging that he had been tortured, leading the Special Investigations Unit (SIU) to probe his allegations. The SIU concluded that Abbas al-Samea’ had been injured “as a result of his resistance to the arrest procedure”, supporting an earlier examination ordered by the Public Prosecutor’s Office (PPO) by a forensic expert. The SIU ruled out the torture claim. The SIU is a body within the PPO set up in 2012 to investigate allegations of torture and other ill-treatment, killings and other violations.

Sami Mirza Mshaima’, 41, was arrested at the home of a friend in Hamad Town, south-west of Manama, on 3 March 2014. His mother told Amnesty International that he said that during his detention at the CID he was stripped naked, beaten all over his body, given electric shocks, and raped by having an object inserted in his anus. He said he was so severely beaten on his mouth that he lost his front teeth. See also Amnesty International’s April 2015 report Behind the rhetoric, Human rights abuses in Bahrain continue unabated (https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde11/1396/2015/en/).

The last person executed in Bahrain was Bangladeshi national Jassim Abdulmanan in 2010. Today 141 countries have abolished the death penalty in law or practice. The right to life, the right not to be subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment are recognized in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other international human rights instruments. Amnesty International opposes the death penalty in all cases without exception, regardless of the nature or circumstances of the crime, the guilt, innocence or other characteristics of the offender or the method used by the state to carry out executions. The death penalty is a violation of the right to life and the ultimate cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment