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this is not India's matter....it's Nepal internal matter India is trying to enslave other communities BRInging the bihari Indians to the upper hand with growing Indian refugees into the country....they did the same on Kashmir,Sikkim,even on Fiji..... modi is over now .... no new Indian interest needed..... this situation arose due to Indian migrants who want citizenship and two prominent states of own.
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Dangerously similar to what happened in Northern Sri Lanka in the 70's and 80's and the Indian role in it.. When 12% of the population Tamils, Mostly Indian migrants from the 1700 and 1800's (Original Tamil inhabitants in the island is less than 3%) first demanded 50/50 political representation, Later separation through terrorism founded and funded by India.. That ended up in a 30 years of civil war
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The sooner you dump Hinduism into the gutter, the better off you will be. The influence of India is largely due to your adherence of Hindu and Buddhist faiths. That is something Indian leaders have exploited to their advantage. Hope you realize this.
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Why is Nepal's new constitution controversial? - BBC News
Why is Nepal's new constitution controversial?
By Charles HavilandBBC News
Image copyrightReuters
Image captionThe constitution sparked protests and rallies across Nepal
Nepal is on the cusp of adopting a new constitution. It potentially ends a saga that began shortly after the end of the Maoist war in 2006.
But while many are happy that the new republic now has the much-heralded document, some, for varying reasons, remain deeply unhappy with it - and its birth-pangs have been violent. At least 40 people have died in clashes linked to the constitution.
How did the new constitution come about?
Image copyrightAFP
Image captionMaoist rebels waged a 10-year civil war until a peace deal was reached
The demand for a new constitution was raised by Maoists rebels, who waged a 10-year civil war which ended with a 2006 peace deal. The Maoists won elections to a constituent assembly two years later, leading to the abolition of the 240-year-old monarchy. But because of squabbles, the assembly failed to draw up a new constitution.
A new assembly elected in 2013 is once more dominated by the traditional parties. They and the Maoists, working together, pushed through the new draft charter in June, saying the disastrous earthquakes in April and May had concentrated their will to get it done.
Over the past few days assembly members have passed all its articles and the document is to be enacted on Sunday.
Image copyrightAP
Image captionNepal's politicians celebrated after the new constitution was approved in parliament
What does the new constitution say?
The new republic will become a federal one. The Maoists' proposal of federalism was later adopted by many more mainstream parties because of the diversity of Nepal. Its people speak over 100 languages. They're split by divisions such as high- and low-caste, Nepali-speaking v speakers of indigenous languages, hill ethnicities v lowland ethnicities, and gender divisions, with high-caste men from the hills almost supremely dominant up to now.
The new document has drawn up provisional boundaries for seven states but their names are to be decided by their eventual assemblies and a commission has yet to fix their final boundaries. Nepali society has become deeply polarised on whether the states should be ethnically delineated.
At least 40 people have died in clashes at protests over the draft constitution. Some of the most violent incidents include (from left to right):
Many members of traditionally marginalised groups fear that the constitution will still work against them as it's been rushed through by established parties which - including the Maoists - are dominated by high-caste, mostly male, leaders.
One grievance is that a smaller percentage of parliament will now be elected by proportional representation - 45%, compared with 58% under the previous post-war interim constitution. The PR system has helped more members of indigenous and low-caste groups, historically repressed and marginalised, get elected.
Image copyrightReuters
Image captionTharu activists have rallied against the proposed federal states
Some ethnic communities are unhappy at the proposed boundaries of the new provinces, although these may be subject to change. This disquiet has been especially intense in the Terai - Nepal's long southern lowland strip bordering India, where recent years have seen tensions between lowlanders and highlanders who have migrated there over recent decades.
In the western Terai one lowland group, the indigenous Tharus, are unhappy at the prospect of being split in two and forced to share their provinces with hill districts that they fear will predominate.
Who else is unhappy?
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Image captionActivists at a rally demanding women's rights in the constitution
Women's groups and campaigners on women's issues say the new constitution discriminates against Nepalese women in what is already a patriarchal society. According to the Kathmandu Post, under the new constitution it will be difficult for a single mother to pass her citizenship to her child.
And if a Nepali woman marries a foreign man, their children cannot become Nepali unless the man first takes Nepali citizenship; whereas if the father is Nepali, his children can also be Nepali regardless of the wife's nationality.
In eastern Terai the so-called Madhesi communities, ethnically and socially close to Indians just across the border, complain they have always faced discrimination and lack of acceptance by the Nepalese state. They say the above citizenship measures will disproportionately affect them because there are many cross-border marriages.
Image copyrightReuters
Image captionMadhesi groups say citizenship measures will discriminate against them
On the more conservative side, Hindu groups that want the restoration of the country's officially Hindu status (abolished nine years ago) are not happy.
The new draft enshrines secularism - although it is a moderate secularism, which says the state is responsible for protecting ancient religious practices, and also makes the cow, sacred to Hindus, the national animal.
Those who favour strong devolution say the new provinces will have fewer powers than originally envisaged - for instance their autonomy on provincial laws, banking and foreign aid will be limited.
Image captionHindu activists have demanded the constitution declare Nepal a Hindu state
Many campaigners for change complain that this new draft was rushed through, with only token and brief public consultations, overseen by the security forces.
And some of those who fought for the Maoists, or supported their aims in their guerrilla war, or who saw them as the most progressive post-war party, now accuse the leftists of betrayal and wonder why the war was fought. In their original charter the Maoists vowed among other things to end patriarchy, let ethnic minorities form their own governments, and redistribute land from large holders to the landless.
Who is happy?
Image copyrightReuters
Image captionSupporters of the new constitution gathered to celebrate on Thursday
Very many Nepalis are simply relieved that the country has a new constitution after seven years of wrangling. "Now that we have a constitution let us hope there will be rule of law," wrote one woman on Facebook. "As the country stabilises and starts moving towards development, there will always be possibilities of unfavourable laws to be amended."
Some see the document as progressive as it provides for quotas for some groups, including women, indigenous communities and low-caste Dalits, in serving on constitutional bodies.
One notable social group praising the new document is the Blue Diamond Society, which has successfully campaigned for rights of sexual minorities including transgender, gay, lesbian and bisexual people. Its leader, Sunil Pant, who was a member of the first Constituent Assembly, has praised articles that list "gender and sexual minority people" as disadvantaged and that enshrine their right to participate in state mechanisms.
What of the future?
Image captionNepalese youth staged a flower rally to welcome the new constitution
Some say this constitution is not the way forward and may spur further violence.
One Madhesi leader, Shivaji Yadav of the Federal Socialist Forum, has alleged that "the big parties have tried to crush the minority groups" and "pushed the nation into chaos". He says the constitution has been rushed through for the sake of the privileged old guard of politicians, not "the people".
A similar warning has come from Bhoj Raj Pokhrel, a former national election commissioner. He said the "rushed" constitution was leading to conflict, and the state must immediately address the grievances of those opposing it; the country's future depended on it.
But senior politicians are hailing the document. The foreign minister, Mahendra Bahadur Pandey, said Nepal's people "have achieved a republican nation that they have aspired for for decades".
The Maoists' leader, Pushpa Kamal Dahal, called the adoption of the constitution "a victory of the dreams of the thousands of martyrs and disappeared fighters".
Why is Nepal's new constitution controversial?
By Charles HavilandBBC News
- 19 September 2015
- From the sectionAsia
Image captionThe constitution sparked protests and rallies across Nepal
Nepal is on the cusp of adopting a new constitution. It potentially ends a saga that began shortly after the end of the Maoist war in 2006.
But while many are happy that the new republic now has the much-heralded document, some, for varying reasons, remain deeply unhappy with it - and its birth-pangs have been violent. At least 40 people have died in clashes linked to the constitution.
How did the new constitution come about?
Image captionMaoist rebels waged a 10-year civil war until a peace deal was reached
The demand for a new constitution was raised by Maoists rebels, who waged a 10-year civil war which ended with a 2006 peace deal. The Maoists won elections to a constituent assembly two years later, leading to the abolition of the 240-year-old monarchy. But because of squabbles, the assembly failed to draw up a new constitution.
A new assembly elected in 2013 is once more dominated by the traditional parties. They and the Maoists, working together, pushed through the new draft charter in June, saying the disastrous earthquakes in April and May had concentrated their will to get it done.
Over the past few days assembly members have passed all its articles and the document is to be enacted on Sunday.
Image captionNepal's politicians celebrated after the new constitution was approved in parliament
What does the new constitution say?
The new republic will become a federal one. The Maoists' proposal of federalism was later adopted by many more mainstream parties because of the diversity of Nepal. Its people speak over 100 languages. They're split by divisions such as high- and low-caste, Nepali-speaking v speakers of indigenous languages, hill ethnicities v lowland ethnicities, and gender divisions, with high-caste men from the hills almost supremely dominant up to now.
The new document has drawn up provisional boundaries for seven states but their names are to be decided by their eventual assemblies and a commission has yet to fix their final boundaries. Nepali society has become deeply polarised on whether the states should be ethnically delineated.
At least 40 people have died in clashes at protests over the draft constitution. Some of the most violent incidents include (from left to right):
- Tikapur, Kailali district: Clashes kill 8 police officers and a child, 24 August
- Birendranagar, Surkhet district: Three protestors were shot dead by police, 10 April
- Bethari, Rupandehi district: Four killed in police firing including a four year old boy and a 14 year old girl, 15 September
- Jaleshwar, Mahottari district: Three protesters shot dead by police on 9 September; one police officer killed on 11 September
- Janakpur, Dhanusa district: Three protesters killed in police firing, 11 September
Many members of traditionally marginalised groups fear that the constitution will still work against them as it's been rushed through by established parties which - including the Maoists - are dominated by high-caste, mostly male, leaders.
One grievance is that a smaller percentage of parliament will now be elected by proportional representation - 45%, compared with 58% under the previous post-war interim constitution. The PR system has helped more members of indigenous and low-caste groups, historically repressed and marginalised, get elected.
Image captionTharu activists have rallied against the proposed federal states
Some ethnic communities are unhappy at the proposed boundaries of the new provinces, although these may be subject to change. This disquiet has been especially intense in the Terai - Nepal's long southern lowland strip bordering India, where recent years have seen tensions between lowlanders and highlanders who have migrated there over recent decades.
In the western Terai one lowland group, the indigenous Tharus, are unhappy at the prospect of being split in two and forced to share their provinces with hill districts that they fear will predominate.
Who else is unhappy?
Image captionActivists at a rally demanding women's rights in the constitution
Women's groups and campaigners on women's issues say the new constitution discriminates against Nepalese women in what is already a patriarchal society. According to the Kathmandu Post, under the new constitution it will be difficult for a single mother to pass her citizenship to her child.
And if a Nepali woman marries a foreign man, their children cannot become Nepali unless the man first takes Nepali citizenship; whereas if the father is Nepali, his children can also be Nepali regardless of the wife's nationality.
In eastern Terai the so-called Madhesi communities, ethnically and socially close to Indians just across the border, complain they have always faced discrimination and lack of acceptance by the Nepalese state. They say the above citizenship measures will disproportionately affect them because there are many cross-border marriages.
Image captionMadhesi groups say citizenship measures will discriminate against them
On the more conservative side, Hindu groups that want the restoration of the country's officially Hindu status (abolished nine years ago) are not happy.
The new draft enshrines secularism - although it is a moderate secularism, which says the state is responsible for protecting ancient religious practices, and also makes the cow, sacred to Hindus, the national animal.
Those who favour strong devolution say the new provinces will have fewer powers than originally envisaged - for instance their autonomy on provincial laws, banking and foreign aid will be limited.
Image captionHindu activists have demanded the constitution declare Nepal a Hindu state
Many campaigners for change complain that this new draft was rushed through, with only token and brief public consultations, overseen by the security forces.
And some of those who fought for the Maoists, or supported their aims in their guerrilla war, or who saw them as the most progressive post-war party, now accuse the leftists of betrayal and wonder why the war was fought. In their original charter the Maoists vowed among other things to end patriarchy, let ethnic minorities form their own governments, and redistribute land from large holders to the landless.
Who is happy?
Image captionSupporters of the new constitution gathered to celebrate on Thursday
Very many Nepalis are simply relieved that the country has a new constitution after seven years of wrangling. "Now that we have a constitution let us hope there will be rule of law," wrote one woman on Facebook. "As the country stabilises and starts moving towards development, there will always be possibilities of unfavourable laws to be amended."
Some see the document as progressive as it provides for quotas for some groups, including women, indigenous communities and low-caste Dalits, in serving on constitutional bodies.
One notable social group praising the new document is the Blue Diamond Society, which has successfully campaigned for rights of sexual minorities including transgender, gay, lesbian and bisexual people. Its leader, Sunil Pant, who was a member of the first Constituent Assembly, has praised articles that list "gender and sexual minority people" as disadvantaged and that enshrine their right to participate in state mechanisms.
What of the future?
Image captionNepalese youth staged a flower rally to welcome the new constitution
Some say this constitution is not the way forward and may spur further violence.
One Madhesi leader, Shivaji Yadav of the Federal Socialist Forum, has alleged that "the big parties have tried to crush the minority groups" and "pushed the nation into chaos". He says the constitution has been rushed through for the sake of the privileged old guard of politicians, not "the people".
A similar warning has come from Bhoj Raj Pokhrel, a former national election commissioner. He said the "rushed" constitution was leading to conflict, and the state must immediately address the grievances of those opposing it; the country's future depended on it.
But senior politicians are hailing the document. The foreign minister, Mahendra Bahadur Pandey, said Nepal's people "have achieved a republican nation that they have aspired for for decades".
The Maoists' leader, Pushpa Kamal Dahal, called the adoption of the constitution "a victory of the dreams of the thousands of martyrs and disappeared fighters".
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India had helped Nepal whenever it needed help whether it is earthquake,flood,landslide....
IOC is working on pipeline project for petroleum transportation,Indian hydropower company invested in Nepal and it is huge source of Nepal revenue....major tourists in Nepal is Indian which has major contribution in their economy.
And when India pointed out some concerns then Modi and India became enemy
Modi announces $1 billion concessional line of credit to Nepal - The Times of India
India to build petroleum product pipeline to Nepal for `200 crore - Livemint
Nepal earthquake: India leads massive aid effort - CNN.com
India was the first and major country to help Nepal after massive earthquake....we have used 3-4 Boeing C-17 Globemaster III,many choppers,thousands of army for helping them....and in the return we get #BackoffIndia #slumdogindia #S**Cf*ckKMODI
I think Nepali has crossed his limit....but i am in favour of smart way to resolve issue rather than fanatic way
IOC is working on pipeline project for petroleum transportation,Indian hydropower company invested in Nepal and it is huge source of Nepal revenue....major tourists in Nepal is Indian which has major contribution in their economy.
And when India pointed out some concerns then Modi and India became enemy
Modi announces $1 billion concessional line of credit to Nepal - The Times of India
India to build petroleum product pipeline to Nepal for `200 crore - Livemint
Nepal earthquake: India leads massive aid effort - CNN.com
India was the first and major country to help Nepal after massive earthquake....we have used 3-4 Boeing C-17 Globemaster III,many choppers,thousands of army for helping them....and in the return we get #BackoffIndia #slumdogindia #S**Cf*ckKMODI
I think Nepali has crossed his limit....but i am in favour of smart way to resolve issue rather than fanatic way
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This aid can't enslave brave Nepali people even they should call their Gurkha soldier back to Nepal from India where they use Nepali men as things or weapons of aggression.India had helped Nepal whenever it needed help whether it is earthquake,flood,landslide....
IOC is working on pipeline project for petroleum transportation,Indian hydropower company invested in Nepal and it is huge source of Nepal revenue....major tourists in Nepal is Indian which has major contribution in their economy.
And when India pointed out some concerns then Modi and India became enemy
Modi announces $1 billion concessional line of credit to Nepal - The Times of India
India to build petroleum product pipeline to Nepal for `200 crore - Livemint
Nepal earthquake: India leads massive aid effort - CNN.com
India was the first and major country to help Nepal after massive earthquake....we have used 3-4 Boeing C-17 Globemaster III,many choppers,thousands of army for helping them....and in the return we get #BackoffIndia #slumdogindia #S**Cf*ckKMODI
I think Nepali has crossed his limit....but i am in favour of smart way to resolve issue rather than fanatic way
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Hi, as a person coming from Nepal, please enlighten us on this issue. Would like to know the opinion of a nepali.
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Just because some random Indian says something in a online forum does not make it real.. As most Indian claims are.. Just like that arse burned MR cock sucker posting silly meme's here day and night.. Both claims are ridiculous and as ridiculous as MR now beaten and battered try to find excuses in blaming Indian intelligence.. Lol .. Indian intelligence must be piss poor to have some village soothsayer to get MR to have elections two years prior to schedule..
Lets get this straight .. This govt is not hiding the fact it's foreign policy is indeed more balanced.. It's no secret that Sri Lanka has very good bi lateral relationship with India now.. I see nothing wrong with that.. And it's not just with India our closest neighbor geographically and our biggest trading partner but with the rest of the world.. Something the last regime feckd up in grand style.. As long as it's in our national interest and in mutual interest of sovereignty and territorial integrity, And not at the cost of our traditional allies in Pakistan and China I dont see a reason to be so insecure about.. Unless of cause one is scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a reason
Do you not want good relationship with India ? Why ? Does a attritional relationship benefit both countries on the long run ?
Small strategic nations like SL need to act within geo politics.. Year's ago when India under Indira Gandhi destabilized SL Russia was her ally, Now Russia is a strong backer of Lankan sovereignty.. Real politik is fluid, We must make every move beneficial to us , Something the former regime led by a tin pot dictator forgot, Megalomaniacs loose a sense of reality
As for India's meddling in internal issues of her neighbors.. Well she got fcked in grand style in SL.. Loosing thousands and getting one the PM's blown in to smithereens, and there are many other examples around the world from middle east to north Africa and Asia
As one very knowledgeable and respected Indian posters here once said as far as majority Indian posters goes in PDF most are college kids high on fantasy and far removed from reality.. So if i were you machun, I would quote neither some Random Indian nor some dip shyt Lankan troll
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India's problem is it's a 3rd grade shit hole of a country but it has a bigger population and has a higher total GDP although GDP per capita is less than that of sub-sahran africa. It's using this to paly global politics that they can't even sustain.
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No this government is policy is not balanced but rather pro western..actually bowing down infront of west.
Do you see this gover acts along with the national interests of SL? I hardly do so.
Everything this gover did after coming into power are the things west and india wanted to get done.
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Those Indians are free to think what ever they want! Its not like there dreams will materialize
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