Attack on Gurudwara Sahib at Derby, suspect arrested by UK

[Brar]

For the past few months, these little indian Lalu Prasads have been deliberately doing such actions against Sikhs every and spreading fake news about Sikhs. Even a 2-year old knows why these little creepy indians are doing this. I hope the Sikh community do not fall for such dramas and is aware of these crafty and devious games these little sneaky indians play.

Dont worry the sikh community are aware of the different games played by different sides. They will do what is best for them. Sikhs have not reached high positions in every country they have a sizeable population in by being idiots. Modern sikhs are very aware, rational and independent

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Thats means sikhs are against the modi goventment againt bigotry, that does not mean sikhs are pro pakistan and anti india. There are many many indians in india who are against modi, that does not make them anti india. Heck even the whole congress party are totally against Modi, by your logic they to are pakistani side?

You are seing things in real live, not understanding the dynamics, and then concluding based on your own biases.

khalistanis and Pakistanis protesting together

let me know if you need more?

 

[313ghazi]

I got familiy in that area as well. I dont think its a pakistani majority area. But yeah pakistanis are probavly the single largest ethnic group, sikhs not far behind.



Not sure how many times im gonna say this on this forum. I dont live in india, i dont watch india media. I have seen more indian media on this forum then in my entire life, cos you guys seems to love to paste it here.

And im not a fan of Modi, im not a hindu, not a rss.

Anything else? Getting a little tiring with same thing everytime sombody writes something you dont like.

You know what sikhs think based on youtube videos, still im the brainwashed huh?

Obviously sikhs who went there were moved by seing their holy temple and felt gratitude towards pakistan for making it happen, which they should. Who wouldnt? But im not talking about them, im talking about the vaste majority of sikh population that never went there, for them the politising of it gave a bitter taste.

Wow, small world. I think the second largest ethnicity there now is definitely the Eastern Europeans and then the Kurds probably.

There used to be a large Sikh community (hence all the Gudwaras are there) but they've mostly moved out as they became more affluent. They're very much in Suburbia now - though the elders regularly catch the buses into the Gudwaras and the weddings etc still happen there as well as Sunday congregations.

I think in 20 years time it'll be a majority Eastern European area. Nearly all my mates who live there have moved out to the suburbs on the edges.

 

[Rusty]

As I said, you are deflecting.

I was intellectually honest enough to indulge briefly your false equivalence with zero details on the supposed ills and wrongs Persians were paying for.

But deflection is only indulged on at the terms of the person it is addressed to. And not the person indulging in that tactic.

The current topic is a fine example of the incompatibility of those coming from non secular nation states to liberal secular western countries and both enjoying secular rights as minorities in these countries as well as continuing to indulge in their ingrained hatred towards others even on foreign soil.

This is the perfect example of that and is why I specifically tagged you here.

There is a reason why the world recognises such toxic elements as coming from certain pockets.

Bombings.

Knifings.

Grooming.

Attacks on religious places.

General thuggery and gang violence.

Conspicuous lack of integration of dress and language and customs.

No go areas and ghettoization.

Hate speech by clerics in mosques on the white mans soil

Calls for Sharia

Demonstrating against wars being fought by the white man against Muslim nations elsewhere

The list grows. As does the sentiment in the indigenous population.

Deflecting what?
I don't even understand what I am deflecting.
It is abundantly clear in that you are an Islamophob, but I kept giving you the benefit of the doubt and trying to show you how your bigoted ideas are wrong.

Instead, you just replied with cryptic half answers, which I successfully used to show you how silly they were by using your own community.

Now you go on a list of things that supposedly Muslims have done.

Just to be clear, you are making the exact same argument that white nationalist make.
you know, the racists who want to ethnically cleanse people?

The implication in that list is that ONLY Muslims do those things.
It is a uniquely Muslim thing to Knife someone, or be in a gang.
Which again, is not only extremely bigoted, but demonstrably false.

Just a quick search.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bindy_Johal
Bhupinder "Bindy" Singh Johal (January 14, 1971 – December 20, 1998) was a gangster from British Columbia, Canada. A self-confessed drug trafficker,[3] he was known for his outspoken nature and blatant disregard for authority. On December 20, 1998, Johal was fatally shot in the back of the head at a crowded nightclub in Vancouver, British Columbia.


- well that proves that "Only Muslims are gangsters and thugs" is wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babri_Masjid
The mosque was attacked and demolished by Hindu Karsevaks in 1992 and ignited communal violence across the country

- that proves that Hindus have destroyed religious places

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bombings_in_Sri_Lanka
Suicide Bombing was a popular tactic of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. According to Jane's Information Group, between 1980 and 2000, the LTTE carried out 168 suicide attacks causing heavy damage to civilian, economic and military targets.[1][failed verification]


- Hindus invented Suicide bombings

ETC ETC ETC

I can go on for days posting lynchings/rapes/hate in India

Keep in mind, I have just shown India as you are from there. Every country has its own examples of these things.


So again, your ideology is not based on facts reasons or even decency, its based on your utter hatred for Islam.
You are most likely bitter that your race converted to Islam and that has cased a deep resentment in your life that seems to have stunted your growth as a person.

Take this advice on good faith, the sooner you stop hating 1.5 BILLION humans, the sooner your life will improve.

Also, please answer what I am deflecting.

 

[padamchen]

Deflecting what?
I don't even understand what I am deflecting.
It is abundantly clear in that you are an Islamophob, but I kept giving you the benefit of the doubt and trying to show you how your bigoted ideas are wrong.

Instead, you just replied with cryptic half answers, which I successfully used to show you how silly they were by using your own community.

Now you go on a list of things that supposedly Muslims have done.

Just to be clear, you are making the exact same argument that white nationalist make.
you know, the racists who want to ethnically cleanse people?

The implication in that list is that ONLY Muslims do those things.
It is a uniquely Muslim thing to Knife someone, or be in a gang.
Which again, is not only extremely bigoted, but demonstrably false.

Just a quick search.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bindy_Johal
Bhupinder "Bindy" Singh Johal (January 14, 1971 – December 20, 1998) was a gangster from British Columbia, Canada. A self-confessed drug trafficker,[3] he was known for his outspoken nature and blatant disregard for authority. On December 20, 1998, Johal was fatally shot in the back of the head at a crowded nightclub in Vancouver, British Columbia.


- well that proves that "Only Muslims are gangsters and thugs" is wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babri_Masjid
The mosque was attacked and demolished by Hindu Karsevaks in 1992 and ignited communal violence across the country

- that proves that Hindus have destroyed religious places

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bombings_in_Sri_Lanka
Suicide Bombing was a popular tactic of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. According to Jane's Information Group, between 1980 and 2000, the LTTE carried out 168 suicide attacks causing heavy damage to civilian, economic and military targets.[1][failed verification]


- Hindus invented Suicide bombings

ETC ETC ETC

I can go on for days posting lynchings/rapes/hate in India

Keep in mind, I have just shown India as you are from there. Every country has its own examples of these things.


So again, your ideology is not based on facts reasons or even decency, its based on your utter hatred for Islam.
You are most likely bitter that your race converted to Islam and that has cased a deep resentment in your life that seems to have stunted your growth as a person.

Take this advice on good faith, the sooner you stop hating 1.5 BILLION humans, the sooner your life will improve.

Also, please answer what I am deflecting.

More deflection.

 

[Rusty]

More deflection.

You didn't even read it.
It's easy to run away from an argument are you loosing by calling it "deflection"

 

[Brar]

khalistanis and Pakistanis protesting together

let me know if you need more?

Yeah, sikhs in us are almost as many as pakistani. Do you see many sikhs in those vidoes?

Keep them coming, seen then all

khalistanis and Pakistanis protesting together

let me know if you need more?

Hard to spot the the pakistanis among the huge number of sikhs. Yepp, you proved your point.

 

[padamchen]

You didn't even read it.
It's easy to run away from an argument are you loosing by calling it "deflection"

I read your post.

You suffer from a typical affliction called the "but paradigm".

It's common to Muslims on the social media when non Muslims point out the overwhelming evidence stacked up against them.

 

[Rusty]

I read your post.

You suffer from a typical affliction called the "but paradigm".

It's common to Muslims on the social media when non Muslims point out the overwhelming evidence stacked up against them.

You literally have presented no links, no stats, NOTHING, and have simply presented bigoted broad generalizations about 1.5 Billion people as "facts"

You will excuse me if I don't believe any of your bigoted nonsense without evidence.

The other thing that is abundantly clear to me that you have no interest to not be a bigot, which is sad, I was really hoping to get through to you and open the window of humanity and decency for you.

Oh well, Parsis don't really have a voting block or any real power, they can support Hindutvas... but they themselves are so incompetent and cowardly that they lost 2 jets and shoot down their own when fighting a nation 7x smaller and then cower like cowards when confronted by Arabs on their Islamophobia.

There is really end game for your hateful ideology that will make you happy.

 

[padamchen]

You literally have presented no links, no stats, NOTHING, and have simply presented bigoted broad generalizations about 1.5 Billion people as "facts"

You will excuse me if I don't believe any of your bigoted nonsense without evidence.

The other thing that is abundantly clear to me that you have no interest to not be a bigot, which is sad, I was really hoping to get through to you and open the window of humanity and decency for you.

Oh well, Parsis don't really have a voting block or any real power, they can support Hindutvas... but they themselves are so incompetent and cowardly that they lost 2 jets and shoot down their own when fighting a nation 7x smaller and then cower like cowards when confronted by Arabs on their Islamophobia.

There is really end game for your hateful ideology that will make you happy.

Your rants about Hindu and Parsis is the typical last refuge of an Islamist.

I've done my job.

 

[American Pakistani]

sikhs are anti-Muslim to the core. They may be making it all up. Is there ANY independent, genuine, irrefutable and compelling evidence to confirm the OP?

These Bharti terrorists now giving money to Pakistani origin people to do these stuff to win over Sikh community. What a propagandists they are. While our people fail to understand the cunning nature of Bharti terrorists.

There are enough of sell outs in Pakistan.

Pakistani members need to understand the 5th gen warfare and Bharti games.

My request to mods @waz @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Slav Defence @The Eagle @BHarwana @PakSword please change the propaganda title into something like "Bharti terrorist false flag killing 2 birds with one stone"

And OP edited by educating Pakistanis that how Bharti terrorists hired fools from Pakistan to do the dirty work. Same thing what they were doing via their proxies like TTP bla aq and ISIS terrorists.

 

[Rusty]

Your rants about Hindu and Parsis is the typical last refuge of an Islamist.

I've done my job.

Heh, you certainly have.
You have outed yourself as an Irrational hateful bigot who can't stand his bigotry being called out

(PS, since when is Hindutva and Hindu the same? )

 

[darksider]

You didn't even read it.
It's easy to run away from an argument are you loosing by calling it "deflection"

Dont ask for him about using his senses.he lose sense when he see a muslim or talk with Muslim.
His mind start imagining when Muslim beat Parsis and destroy parsi religion in iran.
Because of this he hate Islam and anything related to it.he still want second chance for parsi uprising in Iran which cannot happen.so he become frustrated and release his anger on PDF.he cannot do it in real life because he know a muslim will beat him like muslims already did them in the past.
Now he is one of biggest islamophobe and Muslims hater on pdf.he is learning from Hindus.
As some posted before and i agreed with him this person is not iranian also.he mixed breed of Hindu and parsis.this is why he love hindus so much and think about them as savoir of parsis.because they dont have guts and courage to face a Muslim.hindus ki shoulder par gun rakh chala rahey hain.

 

[padamchen]

Heh, you certainly have.
You have outed yourself as an Irrational hateful bigot who can't stand his bigotry being called out

(PS, since when is Hindutva and Hindu the same? )

Nope.

My job was to out the supposed westernised well asjusted liberal Muslim as a closer Islamist who squirms at the thought of receiving the se treatment in his current country as minorities get in his parent country.

I've also succeeded in cutting through the verbiage and bringing out the Islamist hatred of Hindus and Parsis bubbling to the surface.

Lastly I've demonstrated to the readership the classical signs of what constitutes the But Paradigm of the global Islamist. When confronted with the weight of evidence from all over the world, forcing him to grasp at solitary straws of false equivalence and deflection away from the very uncomfortable truth.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

These Bharti terrorists now giving money to Pakistani origin people to do these stuff to win over Sikh community. What a propagandists they are. While our people fail to understand the cunning nature of Bharti terrorists.

There are enough of sell outs in Pakistan.

Pakistani members need to understand the 5th gen warfare and Bharti games.

I agree but there is another fault in the thinking of Pakistanis. Some Pakistanis are trying too hard to court sikhs against india. The reality is that the sikhs are a small, meaningless, irrelevant, pathetic and inferior entity on the world stage who are capable of nothing. On top of that, they are the most anti-Pakistani/Muslim group in the world. If Pakistanis want to become powerful and achieve our ambitions we can do it ourselves if we are honest and work hard for it. We certainly don't need sikhs or any other similar ilk for that.