Arrest of 8 Hindu men accused of gang rape & murder of a 8-yr girl in Kashmir sparks Hindu outcry

[I.R.A]

CBI involvement is as easy as the govt sending an email asking centre for CBI help.

You don't trust the J&K government then?

 

[Kdpreddy]

You don't trust the J&K government then?

1. the first forensic report has no rape mentioned.
2. There is still no forensic evidence that rape happened.
3. The boy who was supposed to have raped the girl was 500 miles away in Bihar giving his exams.
4. the temple basement where the girl was held captive is a single room temple in middle of town with open windows and no basement.
5. Not a trace of assault on girl in temple premises found.
6. All the police have at this point is the confession of the boy and men whom they had in custody for months.

let me know at what point should we just say, let a more competent agency handle this and get justice for Asifa.

 

[I.R.A]

1. the first forensic report has no rape mentioned.
2. There is still no forensic evidence that rape happened.

The crime scene was washed. Reports can be altered when you have law enforcement involved in a crime. The body of the girl was cleaned.

3. The boy who was supposed to have raped the girl was 500 miles away in Bihar giving his exams.

Okay ....... valid point if he was got an alibi. Why don't you let the judge decide this then?

4. the temple basement where the girl was held captive is a single room temple in middle of town with open windows and no basement.

Police that made the charge sheet ....... I don't they are that stupid. You should be happy this would mean a weak case.

5. Not a trace of assault on girl in temple premises found.

Weak argument.

6. All the police have at this point is the confession of the boy and men whom they had in custody for months.

So it was the boy and the men who invented this basement in the temple then.

 

[HariPrasad]

1. the first forensic report has no rape mentioned.
2. There is still no forensic evidence that rape happened.
3. The boy who was supposed to have raped the girl was 500 miles away in Bihar giving his exams.
4. the temple basement where the girl was held captive is a single room temple in middle of town with open windows and no basement.
5. Not a trace of assault on girl in temple premises found.
6. All the police have at this point is the confession of the boy and men whom they had in custody for months.

let me know at what point should we just say, let a more competent agency handle this and get justice for Asifa.

This is an another plot by mullahs to provoke Kashmiri muslims to kill very few hindus who are left in Kashmir. They are supported by seculars.

 

[Kdpreddy]

The crime scene was washed. Reports can be altered when you have law enforcement involved in a crime. The body of the girl was cleaned.

So, at this point we can agree that there is no evidence of rape.

Okay ....... valid point if he was got an alibi. Why don't you let the judge decide this then?

Not just any alibi. He was giving exams.

Police that made the charge sheet ....... I don't they are that stupid. You should be happy this would mean a weak case.

I won't be happy because I want to catch the real killers.
I am a Hindu but if these b@stards really did hurt that little child, I would strangle them myself. Make no mistake about it.

And the police, yes sir, they are that stupid. Go read the charge sheet or may be you should read the news circulated by the lawyer of victim who was shouting that the girl was raped inside a basement in the temple.

Weak argument.

The whole charge sheet if out in open, you can always prove me wrong.

So it was the boy and the men who invented this basement in the temple then.

When you torture people, they say all weird things.


My stand is clear. There are glaring holes. It could very well be that these indeed committed the crime but with what I have in front of me, these men are walking.
Don't you want a better agency to make sure these men are indeed jailed?

Look at Unnao case, handed to CBI, with in 24 hours the CBI jailed the MLA's a** and is prosecuting him.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Abay o chuttu singh ....... you the defenders of rapists keep parroting CBI, CBI .... without even knowing or explaining its jurisdiction in this matter, and the kind of crimes that agency can investigate, and who can request them. Hypocrites like you are clutching on straws, and that is what is frustrating, seeing d*ckheads like you trying hard to defend perpetrators of a heinous crime, because they happen to be your chaddi extremist ignorant intolerant brothers. You are so fcking screwed in your heads that you made it a top search on pron sites ......... dumb ***.



No you cannot give a blow job ......... playing with words cannot hide your true colors. You are one of your chaddi brigade. The real hate filled extremists ....... the true aukat of chaddiz like you.



You have been trying hard to defend rapists ...... using grammatically correct words doesn't change that. What you thought all of us are idiots who won't understand what lies behind your posts ...... you must be one hell of a fool to think so ....... but then again it is expected of you chaddiz ......

You are one of two things- a low iq-high school fail- over grown man child with serious learning and comprehension disabilities or a nasty - pillow biting internet troll who purposely ignores the side of the debate and rushes to take the moral high grounds while stooping to new lows every time when it comes to insults and ad hominems. I feel like you might be a rare mixture of the two. Would love to clock you square in the jaw.

You ignore every single thing I say and keep painting me in your version of who you think I am. Where did I defend the criminals? How am I an enemy of Asifa? What agenda am I pushing? How am a “Chaddi”?

For the last time-
1) I want to see the perps dead.
2) current discrepancies don’t make sense- which may be due to foul play in the investigation.
3) we don’t operate a judicial system like yours- if there is a lack of evidence the perps will get away, not matter how many allegations you make.
4) the CBI is already involved. So boohoo. This case needs to be in the hands of the sharpest minds.
5) justice for Asifa will be delivered

I am done speaking to you. Don’t bother responding- because you’ll just mumble more nonsensical abuses and insults without addressing my actual post. Dumbfk

 

[I.R.A]

So, at this point we can agree that there is no evidence of rape.

That still doesn't mean rape wasn't committed.

Not just any alibi. He was giving exams.

If he was taking an exam some far away, he should be able to present witnesses in his defense in court. No need to worry ..... if you people trust your judiciary.

My stand is clear. There are glaring holes. It could very well be that these indeed committed the crime but with what I have in front of me, these men are walking.
Don't you want a better agency to make sure these men are indeed jailed?

Look at Unnao case, handed to CBI, with in 24 hours the CBI jailed the MLA's a** and is prosecuting him.

Okay police has a weak charge sheet (if I agree to what you have been posting) ........ doesn't that help the accused. Why so many people that too from one community are making it difficult for police and judiciary.

And none of you ever replied to "Why that girl's body wasn't allowed to be buried in the area and land her relatives owned" ......... what does that tell us?

Would love to clock you square in the jaw.

Yeah sure ...... internet warrior ...... but do come wearing a diaper.

Till then fck off ...... I am not interested in your rants.

 

[Kdpreddy]

That still doesn't mean rape wasn't committed.

True but the local police have spectacularly failed to get any evidence. So, what next?

If he was taking an exam some far away, he should be able to present witnesses in his defense in court. No need to worry ..... if you people trust your judiciary.

I keep saying I am not worried about these guys.
I am worried that the real murderers of Asifa are going to get away.

Okay police has a weak charge sheet (if I agree to what you have been posting) ........ doesn't that help the accused. Why so many people that too from one community are making it difficult for police and judiciary.

And none of you ever replied to "Why that girl's body wasn't allowed to be buried in the area and land her relatives owned" ......... what does that tell us?

Do you know objected to her being buried in the area?
I think you wouldn't want to know.

 

[I.R.A]

So, what next?

Let the court decide ....... and the common man on streets and forums should stop taking sides.

Do you know objected to her being buried in the area?
I think you wouldn't want to know.

Okay so who objected?

 

[Kdpreddy]

Let the court decide ....... and the common man on streets and forums should stop taking sides.

Once the powers that be politicized it this much, do you think there would be any trial that could satisfy both sides? More importantly, why wait until few years? why not being the best tools at the disposal to crack the case?

Why the reluctance?

 

[I.R.A]

Once the powers that be politicized it this much, do you think there would be any trial that could satisfy both sides? More importantly, why wait until few years? why not being the best tools at the disposal to crack the case?

Why the reluctance?

Why should it be an ordinary citizens concern? Its Mufti who can ask your CBI involvement, but don't you think she has better first hand information than you and me? Isn't she better able to decide ........ or now she has colluded with Pakistan's ISI?

 

[Kdpreddy]

Why should it be an ordinary citizens concern? Its Mufti who can ask your CBI involvement, but don't you think she has better first hand information than you and me? Isn't she better able to decide ........ or now she has colluded with Pakistan's ISI?

It became everyone concern the moment the placards went up by the ecosystem.
What did you think the whole coordinated protest all over India over a rape was all about? You think they care about a little girl getting raped? Do you know how many girls have been raped in the last month? Do you know how many girls got similar protests?

I don't care about the motives of Mufti or the BJP lawmakers or the Congress supporters.

All that matters is the truth about what happened to the girl.
From the information available in public, either some one is lying or the investigation is utterly incompetent.

 

[I.R.A]

It became everyone concern the moment the placards went up by the ecosystem.
What did you think the whole coordinated protest all over India over a rape was all about? You think they care about a little girl getting raped? Do you know how many girls have been raped in the last month? Do you know how many girls got similar protests?

I don't care about the motives of Mufti or the BJP lawmakers or the Congress supporters.

All that matters is the truth about what happened to the girl.
From the information available in public, either some one is lying or the investigation is utterly incompetent.

You could have said all this without getting me involved in the first place. It was this easy to say it politely instead of .... you know. Well whatever the case be I hope the young girl gets justice.

 

[manlion]

My Only Religion Was My Uniform: Officer Who Cracked Kathua Case

Shwetambri Sharma, the only female member of the Special Investigation Team (SIT) of Crime Branch of the Jammu and Kashmir Police that investigated the rape and murder of the eight-year-old Bakerwal girl, reveals exclusively to The Quint how hard it was to carry out her job against heavy odds.

“The people we believed were involved in the gruesome rape and murder of that 8-year-old angel, their relatives and sympathisers, including a multitude of the lawyers, left no stone unturned to disrupt our investigation. They went to the extreme of our humiliation and harassment. But we stood our ground firmly till the end,” Shwetambri Sharma, the Jammu-based Deputy Superintendent of Police in Crime Branch of the Jammu and Kashmir Police, told The Quint.

We worked against heavy odds. At times we were disappointed, particularly when we learned that even the men of Hiranagar Police Station had been bribed to hush up the case and they had washed away the young victim’s clothes to destroy material evidences. Yet we cracked this rape and murder mystery during the holy navrataras. I believe there was a divine intervention to bring the culprits to justice. I believe Durga Mata had her hand on our head,” said Shwetambri, an officer of the 2012 batch of the Jammu and Kashmir Police (Gazetted) Service.

On 23 January, the government of Jammu and Kashmir assigned the investigation to the crime branch.

Shwetambri taught management at Mata Vaishno Devi University and some other colleges affiliated to University of Jammu for 7 years. She was doing her Ph D in management when she joined the police service in 2012.


“As most of the accused were Brahmins, they over-emphasised their surnames. They particularly tried to influence me and communicated through different means that we belonged to one religion and one caste and I must not hold them guilty of the rape and murder of a Muslim girl. I told them that as an officer of the J&K Police, I had no religion and my only religion was my police uniform”.

“When all such tactics failed, their families and sympathisers resorted to blackmailing and intimidation through whatever means at hand. They carried lathis, shouted slogans, organised rallies under the tricolour and blocked our roads to different villages and finally the court. But with perseverance and patience we stood our ground to carry out our job with total determination, commitment and professionalism,” Shwetambri said.

The officer narrated how spine-chilling it was to discover that the child had been subjected to untold brutality inside private devsthan belonging to a retired girdawar named Sanji Ram. She was the officer who entered the devsthan and seized material evidences including the victim’s hair strands in the presence of a magistrate. Forensic Science Laboratory subsequently confirmed that the hair samples were that of the eight-year-old’s.

She said the most gruelling moment came when she had to question all the accused men about graphic details of the rape and murder of the child who was her own son’s age.

She pointed out that Vishal Jangota, the devsthan custodian Sanji Ram’s son who had returned from his B Sc Agriculture studies in Meerut to “satisfy his lust”, was arrested on the 1st navaratara and Sanji Ram himself on the 3rd navratara.

“It was the most difficult task,” she said.

https://www.thequint.com/amp/story/...on-kathua-rape-case?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Gadkari]

My Only Religion Was My Uniform: Officer Who Cracked Kathua Case

Shwetambri Sharma, the only female member of the Special Investigation Team (SIT) of Crime Branch of the Jammu and Kashmir Police that investigated the rape and murder of the eight-year-old Bakerwal girl, reveals exclusively to The Quint how hard it was to carry out her job against heavy odds.

“The people we believed were involved in the gruesome rape and murder of that 8-year-old angel, their relatives and sympathisers, including a multitude of the lawyers, left no stone unturned to disrupt our investigation. They went to the extreme of our humiliation and harassment. But we stood our ground firmly till the end,” Shwetambri Sharma, the Jammu-based Deputy Superintendent of Police in Crime Branch of the Jammu and Kashmir Police, told The Quint.

We worked against heavy odds. At times we were disappointed, particularly when we learned that even the men of Hiranagar Police Station had been bribed to hush up the case and they had washed away the young victim’s clothes to destroy material evidences. Yet we cracked this rape and murder mystery during the holy navrataras. I believe there was a divine intervention to bring the culprits to justice. I believe Durga Mata had her hand on our head,” said Shwetambri, an officer of the 2012 batch of the Jammu and Kashmir Police (Gazetted) Service.

On 23 January, the government of Jammu and Kashmir assigned the investigation to the crime branch.

Shwetambri taught management at Mata Vaishno Devi University and some other colleges affiliated to University of Jammu for 7 years. She was doing her Ph D in management when she joined the police service in 2012.


“As most of the accused were Brahmins, they over-emphasised their surnames. They particularly tried to influence me and communicated through different means that we belonged to one religion and one caste and I must not hold them guilty of the rape and murder of a Muslim girl. I told them that as an officer of the J&K Police, I had no religion and my only religion was my police uniform”.

“When all such tactics failed, their families and sympathisers resorted to blackmailing and intimidation through whatever means at hand. They carried lathis, shouted slogans, organised rallies under the tricolour and blocked our roads to different villages and finally the court. But with perseverance and patience we stood our ground to carry out our job with total determination, commitment and professionalism,” Shwetambri said.

The officer narrated how spine-chilling it was to discover that the child had been subjected to untold brutality inside private devsthan belonging to a retired girdawar named Sanji Ram. She was the officer who entered the devsthan and seized material evidences including the victim’s hair strands in the presence of a magistrate. Forensic Science Laboratory subsequently confirmed that the hair samples were that of the eight-year-old’s.

She said the most gruelling moment came when she had to question all the accused men about graphic details of the rape and murder of the child who was her own son’s age.

She pointed out that Vishal Jangota, the devsthan custodian Sanji Ram’s son who had returned from his B Sc Agriculture studies in Meerut to “satisfy his lust”, was arrested on the 1st navaratara and Sanji Ram himself on the 3rd navratara.

“It was the most difficult task,” she said.

https://www.thequint.com/amp/story/...on-kathua-rape-case?__twitter_impression=true

Ah the Irony when you have to flaunt the ONLY "Hindu" police women to show there is no RELIGIONS BIAS in a polarised political environment.

If really religion had no role to play, then how is her gender or her religion important ? Why was she interviewed instead of the chief investigating officer ? ...... what outstanding Hypocrisy.