Are you with us or with Qatar, Saudis ask Pakistan

[Max]

if KSA backs out, who will give free oil to pak......hmm...........

we only got oil on delayed payment during sanctions, never got free oil, otherwise plz share source with us.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

So what? South Korean and Indonesia were also developing their jet. do you think they sing song of brotherhood?

if Pakistan today offer money to Russia or US corps they will too join our 5th gen. Money matters. we should improve our economy.

@PaklovesTurkiye learn bro.. brotherhood is nothing but wet dream.

Lets agree to disagree...

 

[idune]

And if you want me to be blunt: Pakistan is highly unlikely to do anything which burdens its ties with Saudi Arabia and will protect Saudi Arabia's integrity like its own.

Your "blunt opinion" is far away from majority Pakistani people, establishments and institutions. saudi arab is using the Holy places as insurance policy to implement its terror plan. Pakistan or any nation shoud not fall for that. Muslims should all for protecting the Holy Places but but not house of saud. As house of saud endangering Muslim Holy Places, countries should go after house of saud.

 

[El Sidd]

Your "blunt opinion" is far away from majority Pakistani people, establishments and institutions. saudi arab is using the Holy places as insurance policy to implement its terror plan. Pakistan or any nation shoud not fall for that. Muslims should all for protecting the Holy Places but but not house of saud. As house of saud endangering Muslim Holy Places, countries should go after house of saud.

Talk matter Sire. Do not create sensationalism.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Just found this, ain't sure is accurate or now, can some Pak members please help confirm?

After much deliberation, Pakistan has finally decided to pick the Chinese side in the ongoing tussle between the Saudi-led bloc of countries against Qatar.

“It was a tough decision as we do not want to offend any of the two sides in this conflict,” said Foreign Office spokesperson Nafees Zakaria, at a press conference. “But it was also made very clear to Pakistan by both sides that we had to pick a side to back.”​

“Therefore, after much deliberation, the government has decided to back China in this tussle,” he continued. “Does this mean we will attract the ire of Saudi Arabia and Qatar? Maybe. Does this expression of alliance even make any sense in the current scenario? Perhaps not. It is a bold choice indeed but one that we are going to make.”​

Tentatively called the “Option (C): None of the above” doctrine, the policy is a brainchild of former information minister Mushahid Hussain Syed. Though the current situation in the middle-east isn’t in place when he was in government, but the general purpose rubric of backing China whenever in doubt is gaining traction. This development extends not just to foreign policy.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/06/14/pakistan-decides-to-back-china-in-saudi-qatar-dispute/

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Just found this, ain't sure is accurate or now, can some Pak members please help confirm?

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After much deliberation, Pakistan has finally decided to pick the Chinese side in the ongoing tussle between the Saudi-led bloc of countries against Qatar.

“It was a tough decision as we do not want to offend any of the two sides in this conflict,” said Foreign Office spokesperson Nafees Zakaria, at a press conference. “But it was also made very clear to Pakistan by both sides that we had to pick a side to back.”​

“Therefore, after much deliberation, the government has decided to back China in this tussle,” he continued. “Does this mean we will attract the ire of Saudi Arabia and Qatar? Maybe. Does this expression of alliance even make any sense in the current scenario? Perhaps not. It is a bold choice indeed but one that we are going to make.”​

Tentatively called the “Option (C): None of the above” doctrine, the policy is a brainchild of former information minister Mushahid Hussain Syed. Though the current situation in the middle-east isn’t in place when he was in government, but the general purpose rubric of backing China whenever in doubt is gaining traction. This development extends not just to foreign policy.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/06/14/pakistan-decides-to-back-china-in-saudi-qatar-dispute/

Thanks, my brother. A few pages back...suggested just that. Clockwork Orange!

 

[Shotgunner51]

Thanks, my brother. A few pages back...suggested just that. Clockwork Orange!

You're welcome. Well upto now China Foreign Affairs hasn't spoke much about KSA-Qatar tussle, the posture is more like "staying out of this dispute". Perhaps Pakistani government adopts similar stance, and Foreign Office just voiced it out explicitly.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Just found this, ain't sure is accurate or now, can some Pak members please help confirm?

Thanks, my brother. A few pages back...suggested just that. Clockwork Orange!

It's a completely satire website. Very well done.

 

[Shotgunner51]

It's a completely satire website. Very well done.

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Satire website, interesting. So did Foreign Office spokesperson Nafees Zakaria say “Therefore, after much deliberation, the government has decided to back China in this tussle”? Or it's a media joke?

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Satire website, interesting.

It's very well done.

Seems to proxy the original by face but adding satirical news.

I know nothing about the internets. Someone more knowledgeable can trace or whatever you guys do.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/thedependent/

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/

 

[Deutsche Wehrmacht]

In the end Pakistan will have to choose Saudi side.

 

[Shotgunner51]

It's very well done.

Seems to proxy the original by face but adding satirical news.

I know nothing about the internets. Someone more knowledgeable can trace or whatever you guys do.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/thedependent/

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/

How about this link, they use the same source, is that satire too? Did Foreign Office spokesperson Nafees Zakaria say “Therefore, after much deliberation, the government has decided to back China in this tussle”, or it's a media joke?
https://www.pakistantribe.com/62391/pakistan-back-china-saudi-qatar-dispute

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pak can only advance by retreating first...

The retreat has been quite studied and balanced so far... waiting yet further will be sign of statecraft, wisdom.

When Mr. Trump, from the WH, spells out a public demand.. it is quite clear that regime change in Doha has been ordained.

Yet, Pak can't always remain in retreat... a week is so short yet a lifetime in the insane sands of ME.

Pak needs to advance at the opportune moment which shall present itself after Kwait failure in mediation.

The question that arises here is whether Pak strategists have a game plan for advancing...

For better or worse ME is of strategic importance to Pak national interests. Pak has no choice but to be a party in shaping of the emerging Security Architecture there... any indifference, policy paralysis or misreading of tea leaves will bring troubles.

War making costs big money.

Keeping Peace is also an expensive enterprise... it can be made expansie and long term as well... of course on Pak's own terms.

In the coming two weeks, without the benefits of air miles, Pak leadership should be visiting all ME capitals including Ankara and Tehran... while at it...why not consult two big fellas in SCO..discretly perhaps. And of course, State Dept. is always in the loops along with 5-gon.


Tounge lives among teeth by being flexible... yet it is only the sweet tounge that can create magic... teeth are there for chewing.

Pak is game.. party to every and anything in ME expect for the Inferno..which is only for those who like playing with fire. Let them have their BBQ and eat the charcoal.. Pak must remain a bemused observer!

Historic moment this... for Pak to act as Regional Great Power of Global Consequence... all that is required is finesse.


All the best to Pak, whichever route you choose!



@HRK @haviZsultan @Oscar @MastanKhan @Kaptaan @scorpionx @Horus Friends, your critique is always a welcome sight.

Lend your ears to all but tongue to none...

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Lend your ears to all but tongue to none...

Spoken like a True Pasha! We understand each other, that's what matters.

Help me with one thing though, my friend... what does Hakikat means?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Spoken like a True Pasha! We understand each other, that's what matters.

Help me with one thing though, my friend... what does Hakikat means?

Reality!!!!