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Are we Karachiites have gone too lazy or just given up on Karachi?

There is a difference between getting Government job and position as a gift upon birth in a golden spoon “mere papa malik cyz hain, mujhe position miljaegi”.

So, compare the education rate between average karachite and a sindhi. I feel sad for these good Sindhis, Having ugly leaders


Karachi is under sindh if you forgot to take it under consideration.

The education system throughout Pakistan is pathetic and yields monkeys who don’t use minds instead rely on words of books
There are thousands of teachers in the same sindh education dept many of them are urdu speaking and many are corrupt to the bone . for monetary gains they help making jali degrees , help cheat students in exams and help
Conduct all sort of possible corruption. Your assumption is wrong i use to think the same but with time reality on ground Is very different
 
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The way to solve this is to bring Karachi under direct federal administration. The next phase is of course, gradually dissolving all provinces and reverting to old unitary government system. Allowing local assemblies to take roots was among the biggest mistakes of the 70's. Provincial governments are breeding grounds for mismanagement and local thugs.

Pakistan should just ditch the Federal structured model and go full Unitary mode form of Governance, but that will never happen because there is too many vested interests from rich landowners with acres of land, oilgarchs, and other thugs who will lose their privilages and mix in ethnic politics as well, not even a quasi federal mode where the Islamabad could appoint CMs or Governors would work cause of the same vested interests
 
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Mqm ko awaam ki support nahi thi? Ya fauji aa k patang par thappa lagatai thai?

Sub awam ki support sai hua hai aur ainda bhi hoga. Baqi ppp to fauji dictator k against bani thi agar yaad ho

Isi liye keh raha hoon har baat main fauj ko ghusana bekar hai
lols awaam ki koi aukat nai hai bhai Pakistan may fauji ko mqm keh katilon ki zarorat thi thappay allowed thay!!

zulfiwar ali bhutto fauji ki goud may barra howa tha keh nai?

bhai sabh fauji ka fraud dekhna hai khi ka chakkar lagao def say lay keh motorway tak! memon goth ki zameenu ko bhookay kuttay ki turhan qabza kia howa hai!
 
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lols awaam ki koi aukat nai hai bhai Pakistan may fauji ko mqm keh katilon ki zarorat thi thappay allowed thay!!

zulfiwar ali bhutto fauji ki goud may barra howa tha keh nai?

bhai sabh fauji ka fraud dekhna hai khi ka chakkar lagao def say lay keh motorway tak! memon goth ki zameenu ko bhookay kuttay ki turhan qabza kia howa hai!

Acha bhai fauj nai kia hai

Sub yahoodi sazish hai. Corona bhi fauj karwa rahi hai.
 
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There are thousands of teachers in the same sindh education dept many of them are urdu speaking and many are corrupt to the bone . for monetary gains they help making jali degrees , help cheat students in exams and help
Conduct all sort of possible corruption. Your assumption is wrong i use to think the same but with time reality on ground Is very different
I don’t understand why in the end you always drag “Urdu speaking” in the convo of Karachi.

Karachi is a metropolitan city, Any polished citizen be it pathan, Punjabi, Baloch or sindh, Is equal part of it given they are taking care of the city and contributing goodness, Doing things legally and not acting as if they own the place.

My problem is, People who have their own villages or cities, come to karachi and try to portray as if they own the city, such that, People who have no other home than karachi (Many many pakhtuns and Punjabis also fall in this criteria) feel oppressed.

There are thousands of teachers in the same sindh education dept many of them are urdu speaking and many are corrupt to the bone . for monetary gains they help making jali degrees , help cheat students in exams and help
Conduct all sort of possible corruption. Your assumption is wrong i use to think the same but with time reality on ground Is very different
I am in no way supporting urdu speaking here, Corrupts are everywhere, Anywhere where people are exploitable, Corruption exists. I know very well some corrupt people of urdu speaking in the field of education as well.

But you are trying to defend those who just out of nowhere, Come out of their villages with sub standard education and no actual qualification and cry out using quota system for government jobs, Just because their own “Saieen” owns the whole of sindh, Same language and ethnicity.

Pakistan is plagued by ethnicity. Provinces are the reason it has still existed and cemented very well...
 
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My problem is, People who have their own villages or cities, come to karachi and try to portray as if they own the city, such that, People who have no other home than karachi (Many many pakhtuns and Punjabis also fall in this criteria) feel oppressed.

Karachi like other cities is a part of Pakistan and like other cities its for all Pakistanis and People migrate due to economic reasons. There are Bihari colonies in every major city of punjab also.
 
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I don’t understand why in the end you always drag “Urdu speaking” in the convo of Karachi.

Karachi is a metropolitan city, Any polished citizen be it pathan, Punjabi, Baloch or sindh, Is equal part of it given they are taking care of the city and contributing goodness, Doing things legally and not acting as if they own the place.

My problem is, People who have their own villages or cities, come to karachi and try to portray as if they own the city, such that, People who have no other home than karachi (Many many pakhtuns and Punjabis also fall in this criteria) feel oppressed.


I am in no way supporting urdu speaking here, Corrupts are everywhere, Anywhere where people are exploitable, Corruption exists. I know very well some corrupt people of urdu speaking in the field of education as well.

But you are trying to defend those who just out of nowhere, Come out of their villages with sub standard education and no actual qualification and cry out using quota system for government jobs, Just because their own “Saieen” owns the whole of sindh, Same language and ethnicity.

Pakistan is plagued by ethnicity. Provinces are the reason it has still existed and cemented very well...
True! Coz they always have the other village / city / whatever to return to ! Wat bout pure Karachi Wallas?!
 
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But you are trying to defend those who just out of nowhere, Come out of their villages with sub standard education and no actual qualification and cry out using quota system for government jobs, Just because their own “Saieen” owns the whole of sindh, Same language and ethnicity.
But then the same caliber of institutions must also be arranged for those rural people at their doorstep. Karachi my khud sy to nae sb bna Lia provincial govt he fund duty hai
 
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Karachi like other cities is a part of Pakistan and like other cities its for all Pakistanis and People migrate due to economic reasons. There are Bihari colonies in every major city of punjab also.
Yes, That is what I want people to understand, to value this precious city of motherland, Not to make it a garbage and a nightmare for those who are living...

But then the same caliber of institutions must also be arranged for those rural people at their doorstep. Karachi my khud sy to nae sb bna Lia provincial govt he fund duty hai
Problem with these poor rural people, My sympathies for them, I know their miserable lifestyle and how they have to submit to local waderas, They couldn’t change unless someone gives a DANDA, But, Meanwhile, Why let everyone else suffer as well ? Karachi doesn’t have wadera system but it is indirectly affected due to provincial government.

But then the same caliber of institutions must also be arranged for those rural people at their doorstep. Karachi my khud sy to nae sb bna Lia provincial govt he fund duty hai
And the money you are talking about, Provincial government didn’t give this money from their own pockets, They recieve from federal gov, And in turn from same population.

So, No, I am not thankful to these provincial governments for anything..
 
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Yes, That is what I want people to understand, to value this precious city of motherland, Not to make it a garbage and a nightmare for those who are living...

Same rule apply to all cities of pakistan. But it's the peoples collective civic sense that matters. Or karachi m b vhi mentality k log rehty hain jo baaki Pakistan m. None is special

Problem with these poor rural people, My sympathies for them, I know their miserable lifestyle and how they have to submit to local waderas, They couldn’t change unless someone gives a DANDA, But, Meanwhile, Why let everyone else suffer as well ? Karachi doesn’t have wadera system but it is indirectly affected due to provincial government.

Well the lahoris can claim the same that don't come to our city but if Lahore gonna take the lions share then lahoris have to accommodate others punjabis too. They aren't special either.
 
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Same rule apply to all cities of pakistan. But it's the peoples collective civic sense that matters. Or karachi m b vhi mentality k log rehty hain jo baaki Pakistan m. None is special
Disagreed,

People of karachi have urban sense, When rural people come, Their ways conflict with those of urbans, Hence the deshaping of city.

  • Wrongway traffic
  • Establishing encroached Goths
  • Garbage piles
  • Street crimes
  • Unhygienic food stalls
Agar apke ghar mein swimming pool swimming ke liye use hota hai, To ap le aao gaon se log, Wo us mein kapray aur bachon ki *** dhoenge
 
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But then the same caliber of institutions must also be arranged for those rural people at their doorstep. Karachi my khud sy to nae sb bna Lia provincial govt he fund duty hai
Bhai Jan Karachi me waqai sub kuch Khud hi bnaya over the past 150 years! From kolachi a lil fishing Outpost to being taken up by britishers due to its strategic location to the port development n expansion to the rise of industry n commerce to the dominant role of minorites specially Hindus n parsis b it healthcare, education, architecture u name it!
With due respect, hum ye nai samjhte k these communities already were ahead of the native population like kp, west Punjab, baluchistan etc coz they had direct interaction with British model of education n development! Hence the glaring difference in polished n educated ppl in eastern provinces (undivided British Indian empire) n backwardness in Western provinces! Agar British north mein hotay like central Asia downwards n buffer would've been Indus then on the southern n Eastern side i.e. Ganges n modern India, those would've been periphery areas n they would've been backwards!
However alhamdulillah education did expand anyhow n today west Punjab yaani Pakistani Punjab, kp, everyone is much much better than under the British Raj pre-Independence.
 
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