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'Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka keen on providing sites for Russian nuke reactors'

NEW DELHI: Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka have shown interest in giving sites for Russian atomic power reactors after protests made it impossible to have these plants at the initially-allocated site of Haripur in West Bengal, government sources have said.

The positive response from the two states has come as a respite for the government which had approached Kerala and Odisha, apart from West Bengal for possible nuclear plant sites. These states had, however, expressed reluctance in providing sites.

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The site selection committee had allocated the Haripur site to Russians to build nuclear power reactors. But the project could not take off due to stiff resistance from the locals, backed by political parties. In 2011, Rosatom, the Russian counterpart of India's Department of Atomic Energy (DAE), asked India for an alternate site.

During President Vladimir Putin's visit to India in December last year, Russia - which wants to build 12 more nuclear power reactors - had again pressed India on the issue.

The government started working on it and approached the coastal states that do not have any nuclear power reactor and started discussions with West Bengal, Odisha and Kerala governments.

"These states are not keen to have any nuclear site
," said a senior government official.

The government has, however, found some respite as Karnataka, a Congress ruling state, and Andhra Pradesh, which is being ruled by NDA's alliance partner - the TDP, have shown interest in the project.

Water is an important element before setting up a nuclear power plant, which is why the DAE is looking for a site on the coast and not in the hinterland.

There are some power plants in central and northern India including in Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan but they are of less than 1000 MW capacity. Since water acts as a coolant for nuclear reactors and being scarce, large amount of water is only possible to be pumped in from the sea.

DAE has already ruled out Gujarat, Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu as all these states have two or more nuclear sites and there was no possibility to have additional plants.


This leaves Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka where one each site has been allocated for nuclear power plants. They can have one more such plant, the officials said.

The Centre has already marked Kovvada as a site to build a nuclear plant in Andhra Pradesh with the assistance of American company GE Hitachi.

Similarly, Karnataka, another coastal state has four PHWR reactors of 220 MW each at Kaiga.

"More importantly, these states have shown interest in giving a site for building reactors. It all depends on who gives the land," said a senior government official.

'Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka keen on providing sites for Russian nuke reactors' - Economic Times
 
There is a difference between Tata Nano plant and nuclear plant. Nuclear plants should not be concentrated in one region. India's all nuclear power stations are situated on one line from delhi-mumbai-chennai. We should look at other areas like Jharkhand, Odisha, Chhattesgarh,WB,NE etc. instead of crowding the same places, regions.
 
How about UP?
The Plants need a constant supply of water which they can only get from coastal states, not from inland states like UP & Bihar..

&:welcome: Welcome to this Forum. :pdf:

Will You Please Introduce youselves :-):agree:
 
The Plants need a constant supply of water which they can only get from coastal states, not from inland states like UP & Bihar..
Not necessarily. A coastal site provides condenser cooling water in abundance and that cuts down cost of building cooling towers and hence preferred. Inland states like MP, Rajasthan, Punjab have large capacity Thermal power plants (which employ essentially the thermodynamic cycle for their functioning).
The problem with locating large N plants at inland sites it usually transportation of large equipments (Pressure vessels, SGs etc) and hence coastal site with jetty is a better option.
@ Topic: Orissa is a state which is reportedly being considered for a nuclear park of upto 6 VVER 1000/1200 MWe units originally proposed at Haripur (WB). Constant agitation by local population and indifferent attitude from state CM has led to re-consideration of plans. If it happens it will be a huge loss to state, but then again TMC government has done little to attract investment and industry to the state. Members from WB can say better here.
@scorpionx @Rain Man @Mike_Brando
 
The Plants need a constant supply of water which they can only get from coastal states, not from inland states like UP & Bihar..

I think N:power plant to be situated near some large water body, it can sea or river. actually UP has lot of favourable condition for large capacity nuclear power plant lot of big rivers are running through it, less prone to earth quake and the state having a huge demand for electricity....
 
Not necessarily. A coastal site provides condenser cooling water in abundance and that cuts down cost of building cooling towers and hence preferred. Inland states like MP, Rajasthan, Punjab have large capacity Thermal power plants (which employ essentially the thermodynamic cycle for their functioning).
The problem with locating large N plants at inland sites it usually transportation of large equipments (Pressure vessels, SGs etc) and hence coastal site with jetty is a better option.
@ Topic: Orissa is a state which is reportedly being considered for a nuclear park of upto 6 VVER 1000/1200 MWe units originally proposed at Haripur (WB). Constant agitation by local population and indifferent attitude from state CM has led to re-consideration of plans. If it happens it will be a huge loss to state, but then again TMC government has done little to attract investment and industry to the state. Members from WB can say better here.
@scorpionx @Rain Man @Mike_Brando

What to say, TMC has done more damage to Bengal's economic future than than what British raj did! :(

Ironically CPM did a course correction since 2001 when Buddhadeb took charge, and was going full steam with industrialization, his 1st term was excellent, in his second term TMC did some dirty politics, joined hands with the Maoists, and misled the villagers where major projects were coming. Internal differences within CPM and death of some key administrators in CPM also weakened it, and here we are. Industrialization has stopped in Bengal, Mamata blocked all the projects that Buddhadeb babu got for Bengal; Tata Nano and its 70 ancilliaries, world's 2nd largest petrochem project, Infosys, Wipro 2nd campus, NTPC Power plant, DVC Power plant, Jindal mega steel plant, Bhushan, Jai Balaji, and Shyam steel plants, many roads and highways, bridges and flyovers, metro project (East West), Modernization of Haldia port, Rajarhat New Town Action Area-4, and many more smaller and lesser known projects got stuck. Now TMC is taking credits for all the projects that got through during CPM's time. And yes, we have surplus electricity now as industries didn't took off. :(

Forgot to mention, TMC blocked Haripur nuclear plant also.
 
What to say, TMC has done more damage to Bengal's economic future than than what British raj did! :(

Ironically CPM did a course correction since 2001 when Buddhadeb took charge, and was going full steam with industrialization, his 1st term was excellent, in his second term TMC did some dirty politics, joined hands with the Maoists, and misled the villagers where major projects were coming. Internal differences within CPM and death of some key administrators in CPM also weakened it, and here we are. Industrialization has stopped in Bengal, Mamata blocked all the projects that Buddhadeb babu got for Bengal; Tata Nano and its 70 ancilliaries, world's 2nd largest petrochem project, Infosys, Wipro 2nd campus, NTPC Power plant, DVC Power plant, Jindal mega steel plant, Bhushan, Jai Balaji, and Shyam steel plants, many roads and highways, bridges and flyovers, metro project (East West), Modernization of Haldia port, Rajarhat New Town Action Area-4, and many more smaller and lesser known projects got stuck. Now TMC is taking credits for all the projects that got through during CPM's time. And yes, we have surplus electricity now as industries didn't took off. :(

Forgot to mention, TMC blocked Haripur nuclear plant also.
guess your signature says it all.
 
Not necessarily. A coastal site provides condenser cooling water in abundance and that cuts down cost of building cooling towers and hence preferred. Inland states like MP, Rajasthan, Punjab have large capacity Thermal power plants (which employ essentially the thermodynamic cycle for their functioning).
The problem with locating large N plants at inland sites it usually transportation of large equipments (Pressure vessels, SGs etc) and hence coastal site with jetty is a better option.
@ Topic: Orissa is a state which is reportedly being considered for a nuclear park of upto 6 VVER 1000/1200 MWe units originally proposed at Haripur (WB). Constant agitation by local population and indifferent attitude from state CM has led to re-consideration of plans. If it happens it will be a huge loss to state, but then again TMC government has done little to attract investment and industry to the state. Members from WB can say better here.
@scorpionx @Rain Man @Mike_Brando
Let me quote the article.above.

"Water is an important element before setting up a nuclear power plant, which is why the DAE is looking for a site on the coast and not in the hinterland.

There are some power plants in central and northern India including in Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan but they are of less than 1000 MW capacity. Since water acts as a coolant for nuclear reactors and being scarce, large amount of water is only possible to be pumped in from the sea." .

What I meant to tell @#hydra# was that since UP doesn't fulfill the above conditions required by the DAE i.e. it should be on the coast & not inland.
Thus UP can't be selected for these nuclear power plants..
 
There are some power plants in central and northern India including in Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan but they are of less than 1000 MW capacity. Since water acts as a coolant for nuclear reactors and being scarce, large amount of water is only possible to be pumped in from the sea." .

Again sir, the amount of water required is based on the tertiary cooling cycle and the fact that is it closed or open ended. What it means is that a thermal power plant and a nuclear power plant having same electrical output and steam cycle (inlet steam temperature) would require same condenser and hence same cooling water flow.
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It is also essential to point out here that an N reactor's internal cooling cycle is closed and it doesnot require any external cooling support. Secondary and tertiary cycles do offcourse require water makeup. What it means is that for given thermodynamic efficiency, the heat exhausted in condenser will remain same for TPP or NPP.
Infact you would recall that large TPPs situated at Dadri (UP), Chandrapur (Maharashtra), Anpara (UP) have 600 MWe units and combined capacity in range of 1500-2000 MWe but require little water (only to makeup for NDCTs).
However having such plants at coastal sites allow you to do away with costly Natural Draught Cooling Towers and also allow for capacity addition and hence preffered.

Thus UP can't be selected for these nuclear power plants..
The actual problem in UP is that of Land and seismic spectra. The new land acquisition rules have made it even harder to get land for project where you have irrigated agricultural lands.
 
Again sir, the amount of water required is based on the tertiary cooling cycle and the fact that is it closed or open ended. What it means is that a thermal power plant and a nuclear power plant having same electrical output and steam cycle (inlet steam temperature) would require same condenser and hence same cooling water flow.
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It is also essential to point out here that an N reactor's internal cooling cycle is closed and it doesnot require any external cooling support. What it means is that for given thermodynamic efficiency, the heat exhausted in condenser will remain same for TPP or NPP.
Infact you would recall that large TPPs situated at Dadri (UP), Chandrapur (Maharashtra), Anpara (UP) have 600 MWe units and combined capacity in range of 1500-2000 MWe but require little water (only to makeup for NDCTs).
However having such plants at coastal sites allow you to do away with costly Natural Draught Cooling Towers and also allow for capacity addition and hence preffered.[/QUOTE


I agree with your comments & the facts & I have nothing against Nuclear plants in the inland

All I did was post the DAE's requirements.. They wanted a plant to be in a coastal state(to save money going by your first post). But as UP isn't one, they couldn't select it.

THough I agree with you regarding LAB, it makes land acquisition near impossible anywhere in india...
Add to that UP has a rather pathetic gov which only cares about votes knowing them they might as well scrap the nuclear plant on ridiculous grounds
 
What to say, TMC has done more damage to Bengal's economic future than than what British raj did! :(

Ironically CPM did a course correction since 2001 when Buddhadeb took charge, and was going full steam with industrialization, his 1st term was excellent, in his second term TMC did some dirty politics, joined hands with the Maoists, and misled the villagers where major projects were coming. Internal differences within CPM and death of some key administrators in CPM also weakened it, and here we are. Industrialization has stopped in Bengal, Mamata blocked all the projects that Buddhadeb babu got for Bengal; Tata Nano and its 70 ancilliaries, world's 2nd largest petrochem project, Infosys, Wipro 2nd campus, NTPC Power plant, DVC Power plant, Jindal mega steel plant, Bhushan, Jai Balaji, and Shyam steel plants, many roads and highways, bridges and flyovers, metro project (East West), Modernization of Haldia port, Rajarhat New Town Action Area-4, and many more smaller and lesser known projects got stuck. Now TMC is taking credits for all the projects that got through during CPM's time. And yes, we have surplus electricity now as industries didn't took off. :(

Forgot to mention, TMC blocked Haripur nuclear plant also.

Freakin Traitors :mad::mad::mad:

I agree with your comments & the facts & I have nothing against Nuclear plants in the inland

All I did was post the DAE's requirements.. They wanted a plant to be in a coastal state(to save money going by your first post). But as UP isn't one, they couldn't select it.

THough I agree with you regarding LAB, it makes land acquisition near impossible anywhere in india...
Add to that UP has a rather pathetic gov which only cares about votes knowing them they might as well scrap the nuclear plant on ridiculous grounds

LAB is being replaced by a new Bill of the Modi govt hopefully it will pass in Rajya Sabha too
 
We should look at other areas like Jharkhand, Odisha, Chhattesgarh,WB,NE etc. instead of crowding the same places, regions.

Unfortunately the states that are better attuned to economic interests seem also to be the only ones interested. What can one make of the disinclination of WB & Odisha other than they simply don't care? That certainly is the message that goes out.
 
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