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TAXILA: A stupa dating back to the 3rd Century BC was discovered at the ancient Buddhist site of Badalpur near Taxila during excavations carried out by the Taxila Institute of Asian Civilisations (TIAC) of Quaid-i-Azam University.

The stupa measuring 25x25 was discovered on the southern side of the main monastery with a centre water tank at the ancient Buddhist site. Coins, pottery and metal objects have also been excavated from the site by graduate and doctorate students of the TIAC. The students were led by the institute’s director, Professor Dr Ashraf Khan, Assistant Professor Dr Sadid Arif and Coordinator Mohammad Ibrahim.

Professor Dr Ashraf Khan told media men that the newly discovered monastery was built in Kushan workmanship style known as ‘diaper masonry’, consisting of thin neatly placed layers of schist interspersed with large blocks of stone as well as semi-ashlar masonry.

He said the cells of the monastery are plastered with mud mortar, the first of its kind seen in the Taxila Valley.
In response to a query, Dr Khan said the discovery of metal objects showed the craftsmanship of the people living in the area between the first and fourth century.

Dr Khan said six copper coins from the Kushan period have been discovered in the excavations. He said that according to the carbon study of the newly discovered stupa carried out by the University of Wisconsin-Madison dates it between the 3rd century BC to 1st century AD.

He said during the last season of the excavation, a good number of antiquities such as a bust of Buddha in stucco, copper coins, bones, charcoal, iron objects and pottery were discovered.

Unveiling the archaeological significance of the site, he said the site was early mentioned by Alexander Cunningham in 1863, the then director, Archaeological Survey of India, during his expedition to Gandhara.
The first excavation at the site was carried out in 1916-17 by Natisa Aiyar, superintendent of Frontier Circle, while the second was carried out from 2005 till 2009 by Federal Archaeology in collaboration with Taxila Institute of Asian Civilisations, Quaid-i-Azam University.

He said five seasons of excavations had been successfully conducted by the institute at this ancient Buddhist site.

The most remarkable discovery was an iron nail and animal bones which revealed that Gandhara people knew the use of different metals and that Buddhists used to eat meat, said Dr Khan.

“History of Taxila should be rewritten in the light of the new and substantial evidence obtained,” he said. Dr Khan said despite limited resources, the university had planned to excavate and preserve the whole site.

3rd Century BC stupa discovered near Taxila - PakTribune
 
This is pretty big discovery, now we know ancient Pakistani bhuddists also used to eat meat.

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Excavations being carried out at the newly discovered stupa at Badalpur near Taxila. The other pictures are of the discoveries unearthed. — Dawn
TAXILA: A stupa dating back to the 3rd Century BC was discovered at the ancient Buddhist site of Badalpur near Taxila during excavations carried out by the Taxila Institute of Asian Civilisations (TIAC) of Quaid-i-Azam University.
The stupa measuring 25x25 was discovered on the southern side of the main monastery with a centre water tank at the ancient Buddhist site. Coins, pottery and metal objects have also been excavated from the site by graduate and doctorate students of the TIAC. The students were led by the institute’s director, Professor Dr Ashraf Khan, Assistant Professor Dr Sadid Arif and Coordinator Mohammad Ibrahim.
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Professor Dr Ashraf Khan told Dawn that the newly discovered monastery was built in Kushan workmanship style known as ‘diaper masonry’, consisting of thin neatly placed layers of schist interspersed with large blocks of stone as well as semi-ashlar masonry.
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He said the cells of the monastery are plastered with mud mortar, the first of its kind seen in the Taxila Valley.
In response to a query, Dr Khan said the discovery of metal objects showed the craftsmanship of the people living in the area between the first and fourth century.
Dr Khan said six copper coins from the Kushan period have been discovered in the excavations. He said that according to the carbon study of the newly discovered stupa carried out by the University of Wisconsin-Madison dates it between the 3rd century BC to 1st century AD.
He said during the last season of the excavation, a good number of antiquities such as a bust of Buddha in stucco, copper coins, bones, charcoal, iron objects and pottery were discovered.
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Unveiling the archaeological significance of the site, he said the site was early mentioned by Alexander Cunningham in 1863, the then director, Archaeological Survey of India, during his expedition to Gandhara.
The first excavation at the site was carried out in 1916-17 by Natisa Aiyar, superintendent of Frontier Circle, while the second was carried out from 2005 till 2009 by Federal Archaeology in collaboration with Taxila Institute of Asian Civilisations, Quaid-i-Azam University.
He said five seasons of excavations had been successfully conducted by the institute at this ancient Buddhist site.
The most remarkable discovery was an iron nail and animal bones which revealed that Gandhara people knew the use of different metals and that Buddhists used to eat meat, said Dr Khan.
“History of Taxila should be rewritten in the light of the new and substantial evidence obtained,” he said.
Dr Khan said despite limited resources, the university had planned to excavate and preserve the whole site.
Published in Dawn, May 9th, 2015
 
This is pretty big discovery, now we know ancient Pakistani bhuddists also used to eat meat.

Without radio carbon dating, it is impossible to tell who ate those animals. I mean the Hindu Shahis later took over the region, and they might have been hostile towards the buddhists.

Regardless, the area was predominantly Buddhist, and Buddhist shrines have been found as far south as Chakwal; which hosts major hindu sites like the Katasraj temple and the Hindhu Shahi capital of Nandana.

PS: Oh never mind, it has been dated. And Quaid-e-Azam university is highly reliable.
 
Without radio carbon dating, it is impossible to tell who ate those animals. I mean the Hindu Shahis later took over the region, and they might have been hostile towards the buddhists.

Regardless, the area was predominantly Buddhist, and Buddhist shrines have been found as far south as Chakwal; which hosts major hindu sites like the Katasraj temple and the Hindhu Shahi capital of Nandana.

PS: Oh never mind, it has been dated. And Quaid-e-Azam university is highly reliable.

''Dr Khan said six copper coins from the Kushan period have been discovered in the excavations. He said that according to the carbon study of the newly discovered stupa carried out by the University of Wisconsin-Madison dates it between the 3rd century BC to 1st century AD.''

University of Wisconsin–Madison

 
@save_ghenda Thank your contribution.
@ghoul

Gentleman the fact of the matter is like I have said our land and our forefathers left us a legacy richer than most of Europe. What does Europe have that is comparative to our Harappa, what does Germany have that is in any way equal to Taxila?

We are the gaurdians of a land that contributed to human civilization at the same level as Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. The onbly problem our neighbour has nothing to show and is plundering our history. Wikipedia has been so distorted that you could read the entire entry on one of Pakistani sites and the name Pakistan is avoided.

Consider Taxila for a second, it is right next to Pakistan's capital you will have our neighbour walking around with swagger about Taxila. Don't forget Ancient Pakistan is one of mankind's cradle of civilization.
 
Buddhist stupas are later additions to IVC sites. The original IVC people were not Buddhist, some time after them we see the presence of Buddhists in the region.
 
A bit of overcompensation there with the thread title..considering there is no such thing as Ancient Pakistani.

Historian do not use or recognise such a term...like it or not, they are just called Ancient Indian civilisations.
 
@save_ghenda Thank your contribution.
@ghoul

Gentleman the fact of the matter is like I have said our land and our forefathers left us a legacy richer than most of Europe. What does Europe have that is comparative to our Harappa, what does Germany have that is in any way equal to Taxila?

We are the gaurdians of a land that contributed to human civilization at the same level as Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. The onbly problem our neighbour has nothing to show and is plundering our history. Wikipedia has been so distorted that you could read the entire entry on one of Pakistani sites and the name Pakistan is avoided.

Consider Taxila for a second, it is right next to Pakistan's capital you will have our neighbour walking around with swagger about Taxila. Don't forget Ancient Pakistan is one of mankind's cradle of civilization.

Sir if it was up to these banias, they would even sell their sisters to the angraiz; whom they wish to impress so hard. After all, they were not only ruled for 300 years, but also dominated and treated like dog !@#$. We Pakistanis were also ruled for 100 years, but were treated in a much better manner than them. Hence they feel the need to impress foreigners so hard that they end up claiming other countries' history. They are a very fake people in general. Everything in their country is fake, whether it's their film industry, archaeology or science. Lying, and trying to be overly cunning is also a natural trait of theirs. With that said, my words don't apply to all indians, and particularly not to Sikhs.

And I rather blame the British for giving the name "India" to the whole sub-continent. Subcontinent is geographically quite a large area, yet they made a fake state named "India", which didn't exist before them at all. Even the name "India" is fake in itself and coined by the Greeks. You see, the river Indus was called "Sindhu" by the locals, but Persians couldn't pronounce the "s" and hence called it "Hind". The Greeks further corrupted the name to "Indus", which found its way into the colonial vocabulary. I just can't logically comprehend how modern day India is the "land of Indus". But I'm sure that the modern day historians make it a point to write "modern day Pakistan" for the sites found here. The gora, who ruled them for 300 years know what these people are like and know how these people are insecure and casual liars.

The funniest bit is that these people don't know jack !@#$ about the places they claim to be "ancient India". Like a general Indian, including most of their historians, have no idea what a Potohari or a Hindkowan is, yet they will claim Gandhara as if its their baap ki jagir.

Apologies for using some rude words, but then again you know what these banias are like.
 
A bit of overcompensation there with the thread title..considering there is no such thing as Ancient Pakistani.

Historian do not use or recognise such a term...like it or not, they are just called Ancient Indian civilisations.

It is our country. It's our history. It's our right to label it what we want. Why should we continue to call it something that we were not part of? Some do and in time the rest will come around. It is upto us to change the labels. History is not being changed just the land is getting another label.

Did you need anybodies permission to rename Bombay to Mumbai?

Click on the thread below and see the increasing number of books by historians that use "Ancient Pakistan".

*Ancient Pakistan - Books
 
A bit of overcompensation there with the thread title..considering there is no such thing as Ancient Pakistani.

Historian do not use or recognise such a term...like it or not, they are just called Ancient Indian civilisations.

Ancient "Indian" is just a modern construct by historians. I'm pretty sure the ancient people of the Indus valley did not even know what an Indian was, we actually don't know exactly what they called themselves but it wasn't "Indian." They may have just referred to themselves by the city or area they were from. I don't think we even know whether the people had a collective sense of identity, since we cannot decipher their writing.
 
It our country. It's our history. It's our right to label it what we want. Why should we continue to call it something that we were not part of? Some do and in time the rest will come around. It is upto us to change the labels. History is not being changed just the land is getting another label.

Did you need anybodies permission to rename Bombay to Mumbai?

Hadrians wall in UK is a piece of Roman architecture..It was built by Romans, when Britain was a Roman province of Britannia.

Historians have not altered its status to Ancient British architecture...just because UK is an indipendent country now.

History is not rewritten on the basis egomania.
 
A bit of overcompensation there with the thread title..considering there is no such thing as Ancient Pakistani.

Historian do not use or recognise such a term...like it or not, they are just called Ancient Indian civilisations.

Mulk asaan na, history asaan ni, rehnnn alay asaan ne ancestors teh hunn asi, magar thekaydaar tusaan? Chal hunn nass.

Hadrians wall in UK is a piece of Roman architecture..It was built by Romans, when Britain was a Roman province of Britannia.

Historians have not altered its status to Ancient British architecture...just because UK is an indipendent country now.

History is not rewritten on the basis egomania.

Because it was built by Romans. Taxila wasn't built by Haryanvis, Ganga, Yamuna people. It was built by the local Gandharans(modern day Potoharis and Hindkowans). How the hell did you compare the UK example with that of Taxila and Gandhara?
 
Ancient "Indian" is just a modern construct by historians. I'm pretty sure the ancient people of the Indus valley did not even know what an Indian was, we actually don't know exactly what they called themselves but it wasn't "Indian." They may have just referred to themselves by the city or area they were from. I don't think we even know whether the people had a collective sense of identity, since we cannot decipher their writing.

Actually Indus valley people might or might not have know whether they were called..but people outside.. use to call them Indian.

Infact the first written mention of this region being referred to as India..dates back to Greek philosophers of 400 BC.
 
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