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Analysis: Is an Israeli-Syrian military conflict on the horizon?

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The firing of two missiles at Israeli aircraft bears witness to the growing confidence of Assad's army.
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Netanyahu and Assad. (photo credit:REUTERS)

It is still too soon to determine if the Syrian Army'sfiring of missiles at IAF aircraft before dawn on Tuesday in the Quneitra region signifies a policy shift by the Assad regime in regard to Israeli military activity in the area.

This determination can be made if similar fire is carried out the next time the IAF or IDF gunners attack in response to mortar shells or artillery fire that lands in Israeli territory.

However, one thing is already clear: The firing of two S-200 surface-to-air missiles was not a coincidence. The Syrian Army released an official statement on the incident.

This is the first known instance of Assad's army retaliating to Israeli military activity in Syrian territory since the country's civil war began some five-and-a-half years ago.

For the past several years, according to foreign media, the IAF has acted unmolested in Syrian airspace in violation of Syria's sovereignty and the March 1974 Disengagement Agreement that the two countries signed after the Yom Kippur War.

The IAF, according to foreign reports, with both fighter jets and unmanned aerial vehicles, has been flying in Syrian airspace in order to take photographs and gather intelligence. On more than ten occasions, the Air Force attacked Syrian Army targets, including some on the outskirts of Damascus: warehouses, factories and convoys bringing advanced weaponry (precision surface-to-surface missiles, anti-aircraft missiles and radar and anti-ship missiles) to Hezbollah in Lebanon. In the face of all of these attacks, Assad's army swallowed its pride and did not respond.

The Syrian Army did not respond either when Israel shot down a Syrian Sukhoi warplane that neared its border a few years ago.

Israel also attacked on several other occasions, according to foreign reports, including assassinations by air strike of senior Hezbollah officials (among them the January 2015 strike that killed Jihad Moughniyeh, the son of former Hezbollah "defense minister" Imad Moughniyeh, and later, arch-terrorist Samir Kuntar in his safe-house in the Damascus suburbs), as well as an Iranian Revolutionary Guards general. This came amid attempts by Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force commander, General Qassem Suleimani, to establish a military infrastructure in the Golan Heights, with Assad's knowledge, to launch attacks against Israel. These alleged Israeli attacks thwarted this plan by the Hezbollah-Iran-Syria axis.

In addition, the IDF also responded with artillery fire, rockets and symbolic air strikes against Syrian Army outposts almost every time that errant shells from the fighting between the Syrian Army and rebel groups near the border, "spilled over" and landed in Israeli territory, for the most part not causing injuries or damage.

The IDF's responses were measured and were mainly intended to send a message to the regime - the IDF said so expressly in its statements - that no matter what the source of the errant fire was, whether it came from the Syrian Army or the rebels, Israel sees the Assad regime as responsible and the sovereign power in charge of its territory.

Up until last night's events, the Syrian Army did not respond. In the most recent episode, it responded forcefully, backed up by an official statement in which it took responsibility. However, the IDF denied the Syrian Army spokesman's claim that the missiles downed an Israeli warplane and drone, and said that the missiles had not even come close to the IAF aircraft.

But, it is clear that the missiles were intended to send a signal to Israel that this was not accidental fire ordered by a junior commander in charge of an anti-aircraft battery, but rather, it was the result of orders from the senior command.

The incident bears witness to the growing confidence of Assad's army, which is succeeding, for the most part because of Russian help, to expand its control in Syria (which is still only some 30 percent of the territory) and to cement the regime's place as the opposition weakens and ISIS is at the beginning of the end.

As the regime's army intensifies its assault on the rebels, including in the Golan Heights, not far from Israel's border, the chances for more errant shells landing in Israeli territory increase. Two additional shells fell on Tuesday afternoon.

The IDF is expected to respond, likely with increasing levels of force. If Assad's army decides to retaliate like it did last night, the chances for an escalation of tensions and descent into violence on what has until now been a relatively quiet Golan Heights border also increase, despite the fact that most of the sides involved - Israel, the Assad regime, Russia, and some of the rebel groups - have no interest in heating up the border and sparking a military conflict.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...yrian-military-conflict-on-the-horizon-467619

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@DavidSling Your views on the undermentioned points:

1. What is the trade off over Syria between Russia and Turkey?

2. What is the reason for simultaneous engagement of Kurds by SAA and then by Turkish army, while Russia only made noise and Assad is quite?

3. What is the trade off between Iran and Turkey? The former supported the failure of coup against Erdogan?

4. What are Russian aims in the region?
 
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@DavidSling Your views on the undermentioned points:

1. What is the trade off over Syria between Russia and Turkey?

2. What is the reason for simultaneous engagement of Kurds by SAA and then by Turkish army, while Russia only made noise and Assad is quite?

3. What is the trade off between Iran and Turkey? The former supported the failure of coup against Erdogan?

4. What are Russian aims in the region?

1. Russia want to increase it's power over U.S, the better relations it has with more countries and the bigger part is plays in the world is a political war against the U.S - Cold war never ended

2. what? Turkey want to play bigger part in the ME politics and become a major regional and world power. Also it want to take two birds in one strike - kurds and isis.
Casualties in Syria are major civilians, with more than 300k deaths, all parts that are fighting there are responsible, be it Assad Russia or any other terror organization there.
No one bother to protest against Russia killing thousands of civilians and no one seems to care, the hypocracy at it's best.

3. Iran want to be regional power too, while spreading it's ideology around the world, while Turkey is becoming more islamic too, it's suiting Iran interests to create better ties.

4. I already answered that
 
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Off Topic: I thought you are offline for this month.

I will add my views

The former supported the failure of coup against Erdogan?
Turks were blaming US for that, Do you any link for that?


1. What is the trade off over Syria between Russia and Turkey?
Turkey actually wanted Assad gone but now after Kurds declared Northern Federation their tone is pretty soften up against Assad. Russia is in Syria for own interest as Syrian Port gives them easy access for Mediterranean.

2. What is the reason for simultaneous engagement of Kurds by SAA and then by Turkish army, while Russia only made noise and Assad is quite?
For Turkey i think it's clear they don't want a Kurdish State hostile to them at their border but SAA don't actually tend to fight Kurds that much (Leaving Qamishli incident aside). Russia probably because of US Spec Ops in them so Kurds may be becoming US puppet in future is possible. Assad is i think pretty much occupied at the moment.

3. Russia have many interests in region.
  • Russia would like to keep syria in fold.
  • Russia gain leverage in international politics because of its influence over syrian Govt.
Russia is cooperating with US+EU countries because they want sanctions gone.

For Iran , I think they want to be a Regional power & want to keep Syria with them as Syria helps in supplying Hezbollah etc to keep insurgency against Israel going.
 
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The firing of two missiles at Israeli aircraft bears witness to the growing confidence of Assad's army.
ShowImage.ashx


Netanyahu and Assad. (photo credit:REUTERS)

It is still too soon to determine if the Syrian Army'sfiring of missiles at IAF aircraft before dawn on Tuesday in the Quneitra region signifies a policy shift by the Assad regime in regard to Israeli military activity in the area.

This determination can be made if similar fire is carried out the next time the IAF or IDF gunners attack in response to mortar shells or artillery fire that lands in Israeli territory.

However, one thing is already clear: The firing of two S-200 surface-to-air missiles was not a coincidence. The Syrian Army released an official statement on the incident.

This is the first known instance of Assad's army retaliating to Israeli military activity in Syrian territory since the country's civil war began some five-and-a-half years ago.

For the past several years, according to foreign media, the IAF has acted unmolested in Syrian airspace in violation of Syria's sovereignty and the March 1974 Disengagement Agreement that the two countries signed after the Yom Kippur War.

The IAF, according to foreign reports, with both fighter jets and unmanned aerial vehicles, has been flying in Syrian airspace in order to take photographs and gather intelligence. On more than ten occasions, the Air Force attacked Syrian Army targets, including some on the outskirts of Damascus: warehouses, factories and convoys bringing advanced weaponry (precision surface-to-surface missiles, anti-aircraft missiles and radar and anti-ship missiles) to Hezbollah in Lebanon. In the face of all of these attacks, Assad's army swallowed its pride and did not respond.

The Syrian Army did not respond either when Israel shot down a Syrian Sukhoi warplane that neared its border a few years ago.

Israel also attacked on several other occasions, according to foreign reports, including assassinations by air strike of senior Hezbollah officials (among them the January 2015 strike that killed Jihad Moughniyeh, the son of former Hezbollah "defense minister" Imad Moughniyeh, and later, arch-terrorist Samir Kuntar in his safe-house in the Damascus suburbs), as well as an Iranian Revolutionary Guards general. This came amid attempts by Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force commander, General Qassem Suleimani, to establish a military infrastructure in the Golan Heights, with Assad's knowledge, to launch attacks against Israel. These alleged Israeli attacks thwarted this plan by the Hezbollah-Iran-Syria axis.

In addition, the IDF also responded with artillery fire, rockets and symbolic air strikes against Syrian Army outposts almost every time that errant shells from the fighting between the Syrian Army and rebel groups near the border, "spilled over" and landed in Israeli territory, for the most part not causing injuries or damage.

The IDF's responses were measured and were mainly intended to send a message to the regime - the IDF said so expressly in its statements - that no matter what the source of the errant fire was, whether it came from the Syrian Army or the rebels, Israel sees the Assad regime as responsible and the sovereign power in charge of its territory.

Up until last night's events, the Syrian Army did not respond. In the most recent episode, it responded forcefully, backed up by an official statement in which it took responsibility. However, the IDF denied the Syrian Army spokesman's claim that the missiles downed an Israeli warplane and drone, and said that the missiles had not even come close to the IAF aircraft.

But, it is clear that the missiles were intended to send a signal to Israel that this was not accidental fire ordered by a junior commander in charge of an anti-aircraft battery, but rather, it was the result of orders from the senior command.

The incident bears witness to the growing confidence of Assad's army, which is succeeding, for the most part because of Russian help, to expand its control in Syria (which is still only some 30 percent of the territory) and to cement the regime's place as the opposition weakens and ISIS is at the beginning of the end.

As the regime's army intensifies its assault on the rebels, including in the Golan Heights, not far from Israel's border, the chances for more errant shells landing in Israeli territory increase. Two additional shells fell on Tuesday afternoon.

The IDF is expected to respond, likely with increasing levels of force. If Assad's army decides to retaliate like it did last night, the chances for an escalation of tensions and descent into violence on what has until now been a relatively quiet Golan Heights border also increase, despite the fact that most of the sides involved - Israel, the Assad regime, Russia, and some of the rebel groups - have no interest in heating up the border and sparking a military conflict.

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...yrian-military-conflict-on-the-horizon-467619

@Penguin @500 @Natan @Archdemon @GBU-28 @F-15I @mike2000 is back @Blue Marlin @Mountain Jew @Solomon2@Beny Karachun

Israel know well that if they go in there is no coming out. Why should they join the mess?
 
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Israel needs to back off and stop supporting Al Qaeda in the Golan. Assad is not a friend of Israel but he has kept the 1973 truce.
 
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