AJK opposes giving provincial status to GB

[WAJsal]

How can you trust Major Brown's book.

Account's backed by many other's who were present in that liberation sir ji. It's is a great book. Major brown is a hero a main player in liberation of GB without him. God know's what would have happened with GB. Thus the reason why he was given Pakistan's highest civilian award Sitara e Pakistan on 23 March 1994. You think he would just lie. That being said. He stated that some of these tribesmen failed to carry out orders or else whole of Kashmir and Ladakh could be liberated. Account's from before Indian forces took hold of IOK.

 

[waz]

Account's backed by many other's who were present in that liberation sir ji. It's is a great book. Major brown is a hero a main player in liberation of GB without him. God know's what would have happened with GB. Thus the reason why he was given Pakistan's highest civilian award Sitara e Pakistan on 23 March 1994. You think he would just lie. That being said. He stated that some of these tribesmen failed to carry out orders or else whole of Kashmir and Ladakh could be liberated. Account's from before Indian forces took hold of IOK.

I've read the accounts, makes for a great read. The Gilgit scouts fought with such valour.

 

[OrionHunter]

Let me explain.
AJK poonch was liberated by ex british army officers and soldiers under direct command of sardar Ibrahim Khan, Col Khan Muhammad Khan,Captain Hussain khan (Military cross british),Lt Col Shair Khan (Victoria cross british) etc.
Be informed these soldiers and officers were veterans of WW1 and WW2.
After liberation of many districts they move towards rajori with Mirza Hassan Khan's men.
Mirza changed his mind and prefer to liberate his own home before rajori and sirinagar.
Under these circumstances FATA tribes came as a reinforcement for AKRF to liberate entire Kashmir, but due to UN pressure the agreed for ceasefire and table talks.
Those table talks was the reason behind the failure of Kashmir liberation.

So you finally do admit that Pakistan invaded Kashmir and not India. You guys never hesitate to mention that India was the aggressor!!

Secondly you forgot to mention that the Indian Army due to its timely action drove out the Pak Army along with their lashkars from the outskirts of Srinagar to generally where the present LoC runs after which a ceasefire was agreed to by both sides.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Account's backed by many other's who were present in that liberation sir ji. It's is a great book. Major brown is a hero a main player in liberation of GB without him. God know's what would have happened with GB. Thus the reason why he was given Pakistan's highest civilian award Sitara e Pakistan on 23 March 1994. You think he would just lie. That being said. He stated that some of these tribesmen failed to carry out orders or else whole of Kashmir and Ladakh could be liberated. Account's from before Indian forces took hold of IOK.

Negative.
It was cease fire under UN orders to restrict tribes men and AJK forces from J&K valley.

 

[WAJsal]

I will recommend you better and authentic books to study.

All accounts are well documented and backed.

I've read the accounts, makes for a great read. The Gilgit scouts fought with such valour.

Sir ji i tag tagged you here. Don't know if you read this.
How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated .

How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated . | Page 6
How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated . | Page 6

 

[OrionHunter]

Are you drunk?
or just trolling my posts.
WTH is this ?
"liberation of P0K including GB which it is part of! And this will be done by the Kashmiris themselves!"

Seems you lack comprehension skills. I recommend Wren and Martin for you.

And no. I don't drink. And cool your radiator before you get knocked out due to high blood pressure.

 

[WAJsal]

Negative.
It was cease fire under UN orders to restrict tribes men and AJK forces from J&K valley.

Sir ji this is stating before that cease fire, we could have easily liberated it. Just like GB. Get my point, again this is not very well documented, i won't get into detail's if you want i can share this book with you.

 

[Burhan Wani]

So you finally do admit that Pakistan invaded Kashmir and not India. You guys never hesitate to mention that India was the aggressor!!

Secondly you forgot to mention that the Indian Army due to its timely action drove out the Pak Army along with their lashkars from the outskirts of Srinagar to generally where the present LoC runs after which a ceasefire was agreed to by both sides.

If you don't aware of history then prevent answer quoting me.
AJK and GB people faught against turd Raja Hari Singh.
When he was thrown out from region he managed to flee india to become ally and military support.
It was observed by some informers that srinagar and rajauri residents will start rebellion against both forces so Raja ordered Indian army to kill every single men, and million muslims were killed.
Tribes man wants to help them but due to many reasons they halted.

 

[Cent4]

I don't understand as to what are we discussing here ? A referendum should be held in GB and AJK for the people to decide whether they want a provincial status or not

 

[Sipahi]

Gilgiti and Balti are not kashmiri....

 

[WAJsal]

Gilgiti and Balti are not kashmiri....

Thank you for telling something we all know.

I don't understand as to what are we discussing here ? A referendum should be held in GB and AJK for the people to decide whether they want a provincial status or not

Agreed, again Pakistani state is too busy and ignoring this issue, and creating more issues. Only happens in Pakistan.

 

[ghoul]

North AJK is mostly extension of G-B and IoK valley with majority being dard people if I am not wrong.

I'm utterly clueless about the Neelam region, but I think most of Muzaffarabad district speaks hindko rather than Pahari.

 

[Cent4]

Thank you for telling something we all know.

Agreed, again Pakistani state is too busy and ignoring this issue, and creating more issues. Only happens in Pakistan.

Totally Agree with you. But people of GB should also convince the current representatives of GB to lobby for this with the current govt. If the people of GB think that this will happen on its own they are wrong.

 

[WAJsal]

Totally Agree with you. But people of GB should also convince the current representatives of GB to lobby for this with the current govt. If the people of GB think that this will happen on its own they are wrong.

Sir ji you think we are sitting ducks. Nationalist leaders are doing everything they can, it's our stupid system that has failed to meet the demands of the locals. Note: Gilgitis are proud Pakistanis and are proudly serving our country. The reason for ignorance of this issue of Political and Constitutional right's is only known to god and these politicians.
For more read this: Territorial limits

 

[Cent4]

Sir ji you think we are sitting ducks. Nationalist leaders are doing everything they can, it's our stupid system that has failed to meet the demands of the locals. Note: Gilgitis are proud Pakistanis and are proudly serving our country. The reason for ignorance of this issue of Political and Constitutional right's is only known to god and these politicians.
For more read this: Territorial limits

No one is raising any questions on the loyalty or bravery of people of GB, this is a political issue and should be discussed as such. The people of GB have voted for PMLN and their representatives should come clean to the people of GB on as to what are they doing in this regards.