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After Senate success, govt asks opposition to come to the table for electoral reforms
Dawn.com Published March 14, 2021 - Updated 41 minutes ago

Federal ministers Shibli Faraz and Fawad Chaudhry address a press conference in Islamabad.

Federal ministers Shibli Faraz and Fawad Chaudhry address a press conference in Islamabad.
After securing the two top Senate slots of chairman and deputy chairman, the government on Sunday offered the opposition to hold talks on electoral reforms for future elections, on the condition that it accepts the PTI-led government's mandate to govern for five years.
Information Minister Shibli Faraz and Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry extended the olive branch to the opposition while addressing a press conference in Islamabad. Chaudhry invited the opposition to sit down and have talks pertaining to "big reforms" such as electoral reforms.
"We want to make future elections fair and transparent," the minister said. He said National Assembly Speaker Asad Qaiser was ready to form committees on the issue while Adviser to the Prime Minister on Parliamentary Affairs Babar Awan and Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs Ali Muhammad Khan were already working on the matter.
"Our law ministry, parliamentary division and [NA] Speaker Secretariat are all ready to talk, discuss and take the matter forward but it is important for this that you move forward while accepting the government's mandate," Chaudhry told the opposition.
He said clause 21 of the Charter of Democracy signed by the leaders of the PPP and the PML-N maintained that the signatory parties would respect the mandate of any incoming government to govern for the duration of its term.
Chaudhry pointed out that Prime Minister Imran Khan himself had invited the opposition to come and talk on reforms during his last speech in the parliament.
Friday's elections for the Senate chairman and deputy chairman offices were marred by controversy as seven votes apparently cast in favour of the opposition Pakistan Democratic Movement's (PDM) joint candidate, Yousuf Raza Gilani, were rejected.
If the seven rejected votes were added to Gilani's tally, his total would have amounted to 49 — one more than PTI-backed Sadiq Sanjrani's. While announcing the results, presiding officer Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah said the seven votes were rejected because the stamp was placed on Gilani's name, which he ruled was against the instructions.
The PPP has said it will file a petition to challenge the result before a high court in the coming week.
Chaudhry during the presser stressed that the PTI was a democratic and federal party which is why it was urging the opposition to have the dialogue, however, "there is just one thing on which there can be no negotiations — and that is the cases against your leadership."
"All the fingers being raised at the Senate [chairman and deputy chairman] elections at this time are being raised because of the opposition's role and the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) failing to perform its role," Chaudhry said, adding that the opposition only had itself to blame for the results.
He said the government had persistently tried to bring about the amendment for open balloting in the Senate polls yet the opposition had "changed [its] principle and went towards secret elections".
"Today we see the political parties which lost this election are making the noise. If elections were open today and in front of everyone, we wouldn't have had to face such difficulties," he added.
'Cancel the long march'
Emphasising that there was an opportunity today to set things right, Chaudhry asked the opposition leaders not to let their politics be controlled by "political novices".
"Bilawal [Bhutto-Zardari] and Maryam [Nawaz] have no experience of Pakistan's politics. The senior leadership in these parties should take policymaking in their hands and decide in the interest of Pakistan."
The minister also called upon the opposition to cancel its planned long march to Islamabad, saying Pakistan had been "fortunate" to protect its economy during the Covid-19 pandemic and the government wanted to take this forward. He further said a long march would contravene the aforementioned clause 21 of the CoD.
He alleged that the PPP which was once called "the chain of the four provinces" had been reduced to a regional party and now its members had "the gall to besmirch the decided principles of Benazir Bhutto".
Chaudhry also praised the National Accountability Bureau's (NAB) move to seek Maryam's bail cancellation in the Chaudhry Sugar Mills case. He said the government wanted NAB to pursue cases to their "logical conclusion" otherwise "people [would] think the stance of accountability is being defeated".
The information minister, meanwhile, claimed that cracks were already starting to appear in the opposition ranks after the Senate elections. "This election has proved that the PML-N has stabbed PPP in the back and the PPP has stabbed Maulana Fazlur Rehman [in the back]," Faraz added.
He said after the defeat of the opposition candidates for Senate chairman and deputy chairman, different stances and opinions were beginning to emerge with Rehman calling for resignations and the PPP proposing a different strategy.
"The PML-N, [meanwhile,] has adopted such a stance within its own party and alliance [that] it is not finding any support, so its last nail has been hammered".
Covid-19 vaccination progress
While giving a progress update on Pakistan's coronavirus vaccination campaign, Faraz singled out Punjab for praise for how it was conducting the drive.
He said the Punjab campaign was proceeding in a very "splendid" and "organised" way, which the other provinces should try to imitate and adopt.
Talking about the current surge in coronavirus cases in Pakistan, Faraz stressed the importance of following Covid-19 standard operating procedures and precautions to tackle the third wave.
Chaudhry, meanwhile, lamented Pakistan's lack of focus and investment in research, science and technology which he said was the reason for it lagging behind India in vaccine development and research. He said the PTI government had realised this and increased the budget for science and technology by "10 times".
 
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Well PDM circus is coming to an end, to be Frank the long march to Islamabad won't last long, as cracks have already begun in PDM.

Talks with corrupt Dakoos is over, federal government gave the opposition an opportunity to hold open Senate ballots, but the opposition refused and thought they were clever, the opposition will never accept transparent elections through overseas and electronic voting. However IK must persist with electronic voting by all means.
 
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Why. Why would government talk with them they have majority now. Only 2 years left in their tenure. Get rid of these mfs and pass as many bills as you can. Stop wasting time talking to these thugs
 
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Why. Why would government talk with them they have majority now. Only 2 years left in their tenure. Get rid of these mfs and pass as many bills as you can. Stop wasting time talking to these thugs
It's the beauty of democracy.
 
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I hope Government has bills ready to be presented in assembly.
  • The Anti-Money Laundering (Second Amendment) Bill.
  • Anti-Terrorism (Third Amendment) Bill.
  • Modifications of 18th amendment and NFC awards allocation to provinces.
  • Restore Presidential right to dissolve assembly
  • Powerful local body system with direct allocation of funds from Federal government.
  • Uniform education system in whole Pakistan
  • Islamabad Capital Territory (ICT) Waqf Properties Bill.
  • empower the Pakistan Electronic Media Regularity Authority (PEMRA) to look into the wages issues of workers of private TV channels and their complaints regarding violation of employment contracts.
  • Judicial reform and adding more courts to resolve pending cases.
  • Bill modify ECP and allow overseas Pakistani to cast their vote in next election.
  • Fixing Federal Board of Revenue (FBR), Tax reform.
  • Strength National Accountability Bureau (NAB)
  • Bill against Sugar and Flour mafia
  • Police reform with check and balance

I would like to see the management of functional entities of provinces should be handled by the city or district administration. this will make the decentralized, audit and accountability process easy.
For example, food and safety and licensing.

office of Pakistan Medical and Dental Council (PMDC) should be in every city or district to check, verify and digitalize the records.

Every Business in the District has to be registered with district office and whole registration process should be digital so the business can be part of TAXNET system.




What laws would you like to see in Pakistan?

Rollback 18th amendment?
 
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I hope Government has bills ready to be presented in assembly.
  • The Anti-Money Laundering (Second Amendment) Bill.
  • Anti-Terrorism (Third Amendment) Bill.
  • Islamabad Capital Territory (ICT) Waqf Properties Bill.
  • empower the Pakistan Electronic Media Regularity Authority (PEMRA) to look into the wages issues of workers of private TV channels and their complaints regarding violation of employment contracts.
  • Bill about adding more courts
The bills government will be presenting soon that are confirmed are
1.Make state Bank autonomous
2.tax reforms
3.About State owned enterprises
 
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Why. Why would government talk with them they have majority now. Only 2 years left in their tenure. Get rid of these mfs and pass as many bills as you can. Stop wasting time talking to these thugs

The Government has to look like it is following democracy by including the opposition. If the corrupt opposition reject this offer then the awaam will know who is doing what. Also opposition can't cry about it afterwards.
 
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After Senate success, govt asks opposition to come to the table for electoral reforms
Dawn.com Published March 14, 2021 - Updated 41 minutes ago

Federal ministers Shibli Faraz and Fawad Chaudhry address a press conference in Islamabad.

Federal ministers Shibli Faraz and Fawad Chaudhry address a press conference in Islamabad.
After securing the two top Senate slots of chairman and deputy chairman, the government on Sunday offered the opposition to hold talks on electoral reforms for future elections, on the condition that it accepts the PTI-led government's mandate to govern for five years.
Information Minister Shibli Faraz and Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry extended the olive branch to the opposition while addressing a press conference in Islamabad. Chaudhry invited the opposition to sit down and have talks pertaining to "big reforms" such as electoral reforms.
"We want to make future elections fair and transparent," the minister said. He said National Assembly Speaker Asad Qaiser was ready to form committees on the issue while Adviser to the Prime Minister on Parliamentary Affairs Babar Awan and Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs Ali Muhammad Khan were already working on the matter.
"Our law ministry, parliamentary division and [NA] Speaker Secretariat are all ready to talk, discuss and take the matter forward but it is important for this that you move forward while accepting the government's mandate," Chaudhry told the opposition.
He said clause 21 of the Charter of Democracy signed by the leaders of the PPP and the PML-N maintained that the signatory parties would respect the mandate of any incoming government to govern for the duration of its term.
Chaudhry pointed out that Prime Minister Imran Khan himself had invited the opposition to come and talk on reforms during his last speech in the parliament.
Friday's elections for the Senate chairman and deputy chairman offices were marred by controversy as seven votes apparently cast in favour of the opposition Pakistan Democratic Movement's (PDM) joint candidate, Yousuf Raza Gilani, were rejected.
If the seven rejected votes were added to Gilani's tally, his total would have amounted to 49 — one more than PTI-backed Sadiq Sanjrani's. While announcing the results, presiding officer Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah said the seven votes were rejected because the stamp was placed on Gilani's name, which he ruled was against the instructions.
The PPP has said it will file a petition to challenge the result before a high court in the coming week.
Chaudhry during the presser stressed that the PTI was a democratic and federal party which is why it was urging the opposition to have the dialogue, however, "there is just one thing on which there can be no negotiations — and that is the cases against your leadership."
"All the fingers being raised at the Senate [chairman and deputy chairman] elections at this time are being raised because of the opposition's role and the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) failing to perform its role," Chaudhry said, adding that the opposition only had itself to blame for the results.
He said the government had persistently tried to bring about the amendment for open balloting in the Senate polls yet the opposition had "changed [its] principle and went towards secret elections".
"Today we see the political parties which lost this election are making the noise. If elections were open today and in front of everyone, we wouldn't have had to face such difficulties," he added.
'Cancel the long march'
Emphasising that there was an opportunity today to set things right, Chaudhry asked the opposition leaders not to let their politics be controlled by "political novices".
"Bilawal [Bhutto-Zardari] and Maryam [Nawaz] have no experience of Pakistan's politics. The senior leadership in these parties should take policymaking in their hands and decide in the interest of Pakistan."
The minister also called upon the opposition to cancel its planned long march to Islamabad, saying Pakistan had been "fortunate" to protect its economy during the Covid-19 pandemic and the government wanted to take this forward. He further said a long march would contravene the aforementioned clause 21 of the CoD.
He alleged that the PPP which was once called "the chain of the four provinces" had been reduced to a regional party and now its members had "the gall to besmirch the decided principles of Benazir Bhutto".
Chaudhry also praised the National Accountability Bureau's (NAB) move to seek Maryam's bail cancellation in the Chaudhry Sugar Mills case. He said the government wanted NAB to pursue cases to their "logical conclusion" otherwise "people [would] think the stance of accountability is being defeated".
The information minister, meanwhile, claimed that cracks were already starting to appear in the opposition ranks after the Senate elections. "This election has proved that the PML-N has stabbed PPP in the back and the PPP has stabbed Maulana Fazlur Rehman [in the back]," Faraz added.
He said after the defeat of the opposition candidates for Senate chairman and deputy chairman, different stances and opinions were beginning to emerge with Rehman calling for resignations and the PPP proposing a different strategy.
"The PML-N, [meanwhile,] has adopted such a stance within its own party and alliance [that] it is not finding any support, so its last nail has been hammered".
Covid-19 vaccination progress
While giving a progress update on Pakistan's coronavirus vaccination campaign, Faraz singled out Punjab for praise for how it was conducting the drive.
He said the Punjab campaign was proceeding in a very "splendid" and "organised" way, which the other provinces should try to imitate and adopt.
Talking about the current surge in coronavirus cases in Pakistan, Faraz stressed the importance of following Covid-19 standard operating procedures and precautions to tackle the third wave.
Chaudhry, meanwhile, lamented Pakistan's lack of focus and investment in research, science and technology which he said was the reason for it lagging behind India in vaccine development and research. He said the PTI government had realised this and increased the budget for science and technology by "10 times".
no need. Government can make laws now so just make a law forcing all ballots, public & parliamentary, to be traceable & verifiable.
 
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This government should must
1.End NFC award
2.present a new local government system (Imran Khan said its one of his main priority)
3.Amend the 18th amendment or abolish it
4.Give the president his Rights back.(he should do this after next senate election in that's just before end of governments tenure.
 
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Pti government should bring in new laws and make reforms in 30 big cities of Pakistan.

Pakistan reform Agency.
Make 30 Model High courts in all these cities, Make 30 new Model police stations
New police force and judges trained to run these. Make a new security agency to help the police, Modern police lab to assist the agency.

Let these people deal with serious political cases, rape cases, kidnapping cases, blasphemy cases, land grabbing cases, murder cases, terrorism, terrorism financing.

The people of Pakistan will get a taste of what justice is like, then slowly over the next 10 years bring in more courts and police stations in to this new modern system.

Reforming a corrupt and dead old system could take 100years, so its better to leave it as it is and bring a new modern system. Start slowly and then expand it all over the country from the 30 cities.

Under old system
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We have been reading alot about corruption in Pakistan, the fake cases, misuse of law, big political fishes getting away with corruption, corruption in Benazir Income Support, judges making fake cases or releasing the guilty, flour crises, food crises, medical crises.

Is there any law in Pakistan which the Pakistan government can invoke and remove these sellout judges?. They need to reform the judiciary system and bring in new educated judges. People who will deliver according to the law, people who will punish the corrupt and terrorist. This was the reason why the military courts came in to being because our regular courts were releasing all the terrorists and their funders. We must still have 1000s of terrorist and corrupt people roaming freely because the courts, police, lawyers took bribes and released them.

This had not happened because we all know the judges, police, lawyers and politicians have relations, they sit together at weddings, private parties, meetings, even powerful bureaucrat attend these functions. These people will never let reforms take place because their own power and money making scheme will end.
 
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