Afghans hate of Pakistan - The real reason

[Ladyuk]

Thank you for saying this. A lot of our Islamic oriented members turn a blind eye to this topic and say Afghans are our natural brothers. *eye roll*. I have seen Bangladeshis and Indians less hateful towards Pakistan than Afghans. Never seen one truly pro Pakistan Afghani. Their hate is almost a deep visceral hate. Even though we've been nothing but kind to him. And their presence here rots the minds of our tribals too. I had a classmate in university from FATA, his tribe exists on both sides of the borders. After PTM, he HATES the Pakistani army and state with a passion. He just can't say it loudly yet.

If we as a nation keep turning a blind eye to these openly hostile extremely bigoted afghans just because we happen to share the same religion, then im afraid pakistan and it's people can look forward to 70 more years of terrorist bombings, kidnapping, drug smuggling, extortion,general crime and more ptm type movement in various disguises which if not confronted head on we eventually lead to pakistan not being a viable state.

I totally agree with you that many of these afghans are brainwashing and radicalising pak pathans it's even evident in Karachi. This is why I said the border needs to be sealed and they ALL need to be mass deported, that's if pakistan wants go survive as a viable state.

 

[hussain0216]

Once I realised how much emnity afghans had for Pakistan


I hate Afghans as much as I hate Hindus


They are our enemies, they have chosen to be our enemies
They have endeavoured to spread fassad in Pakistan since 1947


I am no longer willing to tolerate endless fassad from these donkey people


I expect the Pakistani state and military to defend our country from these people

And it's up to Pakistani patriots to vengefully reply to the afghans with not equal but increased vitriol

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Just go on YouTube and see the numerous videos where afghans, many who have lived as refugees in pakistan for years spew racist venom against pakistan especially us punjabis. You can find translated videos of the ptm movements members giving speeches calling punjabis kalya. Yet they and their supporters claim it's a pashtun rights movement.
As I said to both Afghan posters on here unless they admit and confront this widespread racist views that underpin the pashtunistan and ptm movement we will keep on having issues. Because it's not really about pashtun rights and pashtunistan it's about racial supremacy.

It's not my place to tell you Pakistanis on this topic but I believe Punjabi should be the official language of the Punjab province. Maybe the Hindkowan dialect or Seraiki or Potohari perhaps, or even something standardized as it happened in Indian Punjab.

If not, then it should at least be co-official with Urdu and not discredited. It's your mother tongue which you have the right to preserve.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

What is wrong with unified Pathan state ? look at European history - German & Italian nation states were formed over centuries

I realize Punjabi Muslim elite ruling Pakistan might not like the idea. For the record I am not advocating one.

What is this bizarre Delhi-sponsored wet dream of yours?

Do you know what ethnicity PM Khan is? Do you know how many pashtuns have had positions of leadership in Pakistan?

You're mistaking Pakistanis for your inferiority-complex-stricken friends in Delhi, who btw refused to apply the same logic you discuss vis a vis Kashmir or Hyderabad.

Pakistan should simply absorb Afghanistan (or its pashtun parts) to create a greater union state, where pashtuns and punjabis and everyone will be as happy and rewarded as they always have been in Pakistan. Even if a loyal pathan governed this unified state, as long as he did a good job, our precious fragile paranoid Punjabi Muslim elite would be pretty cool with that.

How would Washington and Delhi feel about a Greater Pakistan with lots of pashtuns and punjabis and others working together to undermine USA and Hindustan?

 

[Ladyuk]

It's not my place to tell you Pakistanis on this topic but I believe Punjabi should be the official language of the Punjab province. Maybe the Hindkowan dialect or Seraiki or Potohari perhaps, or even something standardized as it happened in Indian Punjab.

If not, then it should at least be co-official with Urdu and not discredited. It's your mother tongue which you have the right to preserve.

I totally agree standardized Punjabi should be made compulsory in punjab to preserve not only are mother tongue but culture to. But so far the people who run the politics in our province who are mainly non punjabis have not allowed this.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

I totally agree standardized Punjabi should be made compulsory in punjab to preserve not only are mother tongue but culture to. But so far the people who run the politics in our province who are mainly non punjabis have not allowed this.

Urdu is a sweet language but it has so many Punjabi root words. It does have a very rich literary tradition. Something must be done by the Government of Pakistan in terms of active encouragement of that language of the province which goes back thousands of years at a stretch.

 

[Ladyuk]

What is this bizarre Delhi-sponsored wet dream of yours?

Do you know what ethnicity PM Khan is? Do you know how many pashtuns have had positions of leadership in Pakistan?

You're mistaking Pakistanis for your inferiority-complex-stricken friends in Delhi, who btw refused to apply the same logic you discuss vis a vis Kashmir or Hyderabad.

Pakistan should simply absorb Afghanistan (or its pashtun parts) to create a greater union state, where pashtuns and punjabis and everyone will be as happy and rewarded as they always have been in Pakistan. Even if a loyal pathan governed this unified state, as long as he did a good job, our precious fragile paranoid Punjabi Muslim elite would be pretty cool with that.

How would Washington and Delhi feel about a Greater Pakistan with lots of pashtuns and punjabis and others working together to undermine USA and Hindustan?

As I have already explained in great detail if we ever allow Afghanistan to be part of pakistan then pakistan as a viable state would be finished. It's got nothing to do with " precious fragile Punjabi elite " as you claim it's basic common sense that these afghans who are hate filled bigots who have done everything in their power to harm pakistan and it's people will turn pakistan into another Afghanistan.
It's long overdue that they took responsibility for their own country and people no sane person in pakistan wants to merge with afghans, apart from some people who share same ethnic heritage as the afghans and these people are more than welcome to move to Afghanistan.

Urdu is a sweet language but it has so many Punjabi root words. It does have a very rich literary tradition. Something must be done by the Government of Pakistan in terms of active encouragement of that language of the province which goes back thousands of years at a stretch.

Urdu is indeed a beautiful language and has many words that are punjabi hence I can understand urdu although I have never formally learnt it. This issue with native languages not being made compulsory on provincial level is a long one. I think only sindh passed legislation to make sindhi compulsory and that was due to the demands at a grass root by sindhis themselves.

 

[Cliftonite]

As I have already explained in great detail if we ever allow Afghanistan to be part of pakistan then pakistan as a viable state would be finished. It's got nothing to do with " precious fragile Punjabi elite " as you claim it's basic common sense that these afghans who are hate filled bigots who have done everything in their power to harm pakistan and it's people will turn pakistan into another Afghanistan.
It's long overdue that they took responsibility for their own country and people no sane person in pakistan wants to merge with afghans, apart from some people who share same ethnic heritage as the afghans and these people are more than welcome to move to Afghanistan.



Urdu is indeed a beautiful language and has many words that are punjabi hence I can understand urdu although I have never formally learnt it. This issue with native languages not being made compulsory on provincial level is a long one. I think only sindh passed legislation to make sindhi compulsory and that was due to the demands at a grass root by sindhis themselves.

I am in line with the merger of Pakhtun Afghanistan and Pakistan, ONLY after they have been dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming. Their tribal patriarchal Kalashnikov culture simply will not do in Pakistan. We will not allow or tolerate it one bit.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

As I have already explained in great detail if we ever allow Afghanistan to be part of pakistan then pakistan as a viable state would be finished. It's got nothing to do with " precious fragile Punjabi elite " as you claim it's basic common sense that these afghans who are hate filled bigots who have done everything in their power to harm pakistan and it's people will turn pakistan into another Afghanistan.
It's long overdue that they took responsibility for their own country and people no sane person in pakistan wants to merge with afghans, apart from some people who share same ethnic heritage as the afghans and these people are more than welcome to move to Afghanistan.

I was responding to an American's standardised orientalist wet dream of carving Pakistan up. I'm not bothered really whether Pakistan absorbs pathan-land or not but these ideas of nwfp being transferred across the Durand line need nipping in the bud on pdf. Better that you understand that particular problem.

Maybe Hispanic majority states in southern USA, especially the areas stolen from Mexico previously, should return to Mexico.

 

[Behram Khilji]

What is this bizarre Delhi-sponsored wet dream of yours?

Do you know what ethnicity PM Khan is? Do you know how many pashtuns have had positions of leadership in Pakistan?

You're mistaking Pakistanis for your inferiority-complex-stricken friends in Delhi, who btw refused to apply the same logic you discuss vis a vis Kashmir or Hyderabad.

Pakistan should simply absorb Afghanistan (or its pashtun parts) to create a greater union state, where pashtuns and punjabis and everyone will be as happy and rewarded as they always have been in Pakistan. Even if a loyal pathan governed this unified state, as long as he did a good job, our precious fragile paranoid Punjabi Muslim elite would be pretty cool with that.

How would Washington and Delhi feel about a Greater Pakistan with lots of pashtuns and punjabis and others working together to undermine USA and Hindustan?

Care to explain to me what is a pushtoon part and who is pushtoon and who is not or is pushtoon another word that like pakistan, not a single ethnicity.

Northern Afghanistan is part and parcel of Afghanistan, how you don't like dividing ethnicities in Pakistan then why do you wish that on others.

What's if one of the ethnicity in Pakistan kicks you in the teeth and says we are going our own way.

Love Punjab, love Punjabi language and culture but don't advertise it around the world as Pakistani culture.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Care to explain to me what is a pushtoon part and who is pushtoon and who is not or is pushtoon another word that like pakistan, not a single ethnicity.

Northern Afghanistan is part and parcel of Afghanistan, how you don't like dividing ethnicities in Pakistan then why do you wish that on others.

What's if one of the ethnicity in Pakistan kicks you in the teeth and says we are going our own way.

Love Punjab, love Punjabi language and culture but don't advertise it around the world as Pakistani culture.

I don't "wish" anything regarding Afghanistan other than it doesn't get used by India as a means to attack Pakistan. Again, I was responding to an attempt at neocolonial nation building by an American poster.

 

[Ladyuk]

Care to explain to me what is a pushtoon part and who is pushtoon and who is not or is pushtoon another word that like pakistan, not a single ethnicity.

Northern Afghanistan is part and parcel of Afghanistan, how you don't like dividing ethnicities in Pakistan then why do you wish that on others.

What's if one of the ethnicity in Pakistan kicks you in the teeth and says we are going our own way.

Love Punjab, love Punjabi language and culture but don't advertise it around the world as Pakistani culture.

Can I ask exactly what is your problem with punjabis?

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Urdu is indeed a beautiful language and has many words that are punjabi hence I can understand urdu although I have never formally learnt it. This issue with native languages not being made compulsory on provincial level is a long one. I think only sindh passed legislation to make sindhi compulsory and that was due to the demands at a grass root by sindhis themselves.

I happen to speak both. Urdu was mostly self-learning, and Punjabi I studied a little as a kid in Indian Punjab (Gurumukhi script). We had some stories of Bulleh Shah in the coursebook.

Of course right now I only think in English. My command on the native languages of India (or Pakistan) have become rusty in the last 15 odd years.

 

[Ladyuk]

I am in line with the merger of Pakhtun Afghanistan and Pakistan, ONLY after they have been dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming. Their tribal patriarchal Kalashnikov culture simply will not do in Pakistan. We will not allow or tolerate it one bit.

Brother they will never change, study their history their tribal culture is very deeply rooted in revenge, honour and of course racial supremacy. Look how long some Afghan refugees have lived in pakistan even born here and all they do is spew venom against us. It's best they take care of their own country and even better if pakistan starts to take care of the millions of its poor citizens who have gone without basic life necessities for to long.

 

[Behram Khilji]

Can I ask exactly what is your problem with punjabis?

I have no problem with Punjabis at all, I have no reason to be they are my countrymen.

However no one has stopped them from lovng their culture, loving their language and all things that are Punjabi.

However please don't advertise it as Pakistani culture as it's not, it's your ethnic culture etc.

Don't advertise it as Pakistani.