Afghanistan: Taliban ban Helmand barbers from trimming beards

[jamahir]

Is also the case now because USA failed to conquer them.

That is because USA and rest of the Western forces didn't want to conquer them. The fighting was half-hearted.

1. The Taliban have had their embassy in Qatar since 2013 and Qatar has a large American military base yet no Western intelligence agency or Mossad assassinated the Taliban people in the embassy while they were claiming to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.

2. Some years ago I read that some Taliban fighters were carried onboard US air force planes to be delivered to the battlefields of Syria to fight alongside the "Syrian" "moderate rebels" against the forces of Bashar al Assad and his allies. Assad being the leader of a Socialist movement is the common ideological enemy of the Taliban and the Western governments.

3. The Taliban used to force Afghan farmers to grow opium and sell it to the American military.

4. The Aynak copper mine not far from Kabul had a unique arrangement. It is managed by the Chinese and the Americans used to have a military unit stationed there. And the Taliban generally had an understanding with the Western militaries to not do fighting around this area.

They would have conquered if we didn't supplied Taliban and helped them. What i am saying is even before US invasion, we should have been the one who invaded. With their funding we would have absolutely dominated Afghanistan and forever would have been their trusted partner.

Agreed. So Pakistan should help the progressives in Afghanistan like the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan in overthrowing the Taliban.

Also, scholars from other Islamic countries or even other deobandi scholars maybe able to persuade them of what is Sunnath and what is Fahd.

Well, if you somehow have in mind the "scholars" of Darul Uloom Deoband in India then they are just unarmed versions of the Taliban.

But yes maybe scholars from Syria, Egypt, Algeria and Indonesia.

Their zeal is like the early French Revolution, and it will set them back until they get more realistic.

Hmm, not an accurate comparison. The French Revolution AFAIK was due to socio-economic disparity maintained by the monarchy and the spread of enlightened ideas among some who called for a revolutionary change. BTW I have read that Napoleon was interested in Islam and he called himself Citizen Ali. He also corresponded with Tipu Sultan who was also something of an enlightened ruler and these two wanted to see an India free of the British. So my point is would Napoleon have been interested in Islam if Islam was as portrayed by the Taliban ? Hence not an accurate comparison.

 

[313ghazi]

Mine the border and man it. Leave the savages to thier own devices. Anyone who wants live like them can get a visa and go. All we need from them is for it not to a nest of Indian snakes.

 

[FuturePAF]

That is because USA and rest of the Western forces didn't want to conquer them. The fighting was half-hearted.

1. The Taliban have had their embassy in Qatar since 2013 and Qatar has a large American military base yet no Western intelligence agency or Mossad assassinated the Taliban people in the embassy while they were claiming to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.

2. Some years ago I read that some Taliban fighters were carried onboard US air force planes to be delivered to the battlefields of Syria to fight alongside the "Syrian" "moderate rebels" against the forces of Bashar al Assad and his allies. Assad being the leader of a Socialist movement is the common ideological enemy of the Taliban and the Western governments.

3. The Taliban used to force Afghan farmers to grow opium and sell it to the American military.

4. The Aynak copper mine not far from Kabul had a unique arrangement. It is managed by the Chinese and the Americans used to have a military unit stationed there. And the Taliban generally had an understanding with the Western militaries to not do fighting around this area.



Agreed. So Pakistan should help the progressives in Afghanistan like the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan in overthrowing the Taliban.



Well, if you somehow have in mind the "scholars" of Darul Uloom Deoband in India then they are just unarmed versions of the Taliban.

But yes maybe scholars from Syria, Egypt, Algeria and Indonesia.



Hmm, not an accurate comparison. The French Revolution AFAIK was due to socio-economic disparity maintained by the monarchy and the spread of enlightened ideas among some who called for a revolutionary change. BTW I have that Napoleon was interested in Islam and he called himself Citizen Ali. He also corresponded with Tipu Sultan who was also something of an enlightened ruler and these two wanted to see an India free of the British. So my point is would Napoleon have been interested in Islam if Islam was as portrayed by the Taliban ? Hence not an accurate comparison.

Scholars from Qatar and Al Azhar are what I had in mind. Perhaps even a former Chief Imam from Mecca. If they are going to make their government survive, they need to hear from other religious leaders that saw their societies deal with modernity and still remain Islamic.

The reference to the French Revolution was not about the causes but the zeal of implementation of the revolutionary leaders.

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

Mark my words, Afghanistan will never see peace because it's not a society, it never was. Call them a graveyard of bla bla but the only time they remain civilized were under Persian and Turkish occupation that remained for hundreds of years. Or else, Afghans are just like outlawed creatures.

Lol, I remember, when they destroyed the Safavids.

 

[jamahir]

Scholars from Qatar and Al Azhar are what I had in mind. Perhaps even a former Chief Imam from Mecca. If they are going to make their government survive, they need to hear from other religious leaders that saw their societies deal with modernity and still remain Islamic.

Al Azhar is okay I think.

The reference to the French Revolution was not about the causes but the zeal of implementation of the revolutionary leaders.

 

[HammerHead081]

That is because USA and rest of the Western forces didn't want to conquer them. The fighting was half-hearted.

1. The Taliban have had their embassy in Qatar since 2013 and Qatar has a large American military base yet no Western intelligence agency or Mossad assassinated the Taliban people in the embassy while they were claiming to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.

2. Some years ago I read that some Taliban fighters were carried onboard US air force planes to be delivered to the battlefields of Syria to fight alongside the "Syrian" "moderate rebels" against the forces of Bashar al Assad and his allies. Assad being the leader of a Socialist movement is the common ideological enemy of the Taliban and the Western governments.

3. The Taliban used to force Afghan farmers to grow opium and sell it to the American military.

4. The Aynak copper mine not far from Kabul had a unique arrangement. It is managed by the Chinese and the Americans used to have a military unit stationed there. And the Taliban generally had an understanding with the Western militaries to not do fighting around this area.



Agreed. So Pakistan should help the progressives in Afghanistan like the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan in overthrowing the Taliban.



Well, if you somehow have in mind the "scholars" of Darul Uloom Deoband in India then they are just unarmed versions of the Taliban.

But yes maybe scholars from Syria, Egypt, Algeria and Indonesia.



Hmm, not an accurate comparison. The French Revolution AFAIK was due to socio-economic disparity maintained by the monarchy and the spread of enlightened ideas among some who called for a revolutionary change. BTW I have read that Napoleon was interested in Islam and he called himself Citizen Ali. He also corresponded with Tipu Sultan who was also something of an enlightened ruler and these two wanted to see an India free of the British. So my point is would Napoleon have been interested in Islam if Islam was as portrayed by the Taliban ? Hence not an accurate comparison.

Half hearted US approach and continuous support for Taliban from Pakistan led to these clowns thinking they could beat any well armed army.

It is too late for any invasion now, i guess Pakistan can only do is to support any political party that isn't aggressive towards us which is taliban atm.

 

[kingQamaR]

some Pakistanis on here should not ridicule the Taliban what certain Pakistani groups practices are bizarre I would list one or 2 of them but my current rating will be made even worse than it already is

 

[RescueRanger]

And these people will run a country? Good luck!

 

[HammerHead081]

And these people will run a country? Good luck!

We made a huge blunder supporting these clowns against USA. We should have invaded Afghanistan long ago and capture all of that country.

 

[El Sidd]

"Nobody cares about their style or hair fashion," he said.

Then why blame the government for it?

Deep pocket propaganda as foretold by foreign minister Sayyidi Qureshi.

 

[TNT]

Sure sure, the Taliban have actually been busy building high-quality neighborhoods in new townships for the four million homeless Afghans and setting up an ideal Socialist Islamic welfare-based society where no one will go hungry or needlessly ill and otherwise be socio-economically deprived. They have also been setting up futuristic co-ed schools and negotiating with the Russians to send the second Afghan to space onboard a Russian rocket.



The "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001 ruled with the consent of the Western governments as is also the case now.

But yes I agree with you in general that Pakistan should help the progressives in Afghanistan like the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan in overthrowing the Taliban.



To get used to changed and ruled of "prominent religious scholar" ? Are you supporting them, man ?

Who are these "prominent religious scholars" ?

U rats with all the support couldnt build a quarter of that society n u expect taliban to do it.
Why is co ed futiristic? Its all u tharki commies want. Taliban didn't come with ur help or anyone else's help, u n everyone was against them n they came by power n will of Allah. They have nothing to prove to anyone and doeant require acceptance of your satanic system.
Its ironic how its ok to ban hijab and face veil in west but the likes of u catch fire when taliban does something. Guess what, u cannot do anything abt it and jump n cry as much as u want.

We made a huge blunder supporting these clowns against USA. We should have invaded Afghanistan long ago and capture all of that country.

No u didnt, u gave bases n intelligence support to the US. There were individuals having sympathy with their cause that helped them. And plz go on and give it a try, u been shit scared of india taking back Kashmir where kashmiri women r raped daily and u think u can invade Afghanistan lolz. U cant control balochistan n dream of invading Afghanistan. Dumb nationalists like u are the reason of hatred on both sides.

 

[TNT]

2. Some years ago I read that some Taliban fighters were carried onboard US air force planes to be delivered to the battlefields of Syria to fight alongside the "Syrian" "moderate rebels" against the forces of Bashar al Assad and his allies. Assad being the leader of a Socialist movement is the common ideological enemy of the Taliban and the Western governments.

3. The Taliban used to force Afghan farmers to grow opium and sell it to the American military

U r one of the biggest stupid morons i have seen on this forum, right up there with austin powers/tai hai chen. You pull out weird crap from ur backside everyday day. Is it the cowdung or something else?

 

[El Sidd]

@jamahir as forum allows me to only say afeemchi to you so i have a questions for you hashishkor, did you read the bbc article?

 

[Imran Khan]

good now all of them will look same . remind me movie hobbit

 

[jamahir]

U rats with all the support couldnt build a quarter of that society n u expect taliban to do it.

So no building of high-quality neighborhoods for the four million homeless then. Got it.

Why is co ed futiristic? Its all u tharki commies want.

Even Saudia has built the KAUST co-ed university.

U r one of the biggest stupid morons i have seen on this forum, right up there with austin powers/tai hai chen. You pull out weird crap from ur backside everyday day. Is it the cowdung or something else?

Which other posts of mine you would like to negate ?

@jamahir as forum allows me to only say afeemchi to you so i have a questions for you hashishkor, did you read the bbc article?

So you are calling me afeemchi and hasishkhor because of me calling them ? What's your connection to them ?

And yes, I read the article. What's your point ?