Afghan woman shot, blinded, for getting a job

[El Sidd]

This is inspired by Modi libraries in Afghanistan

 

[xyx007]

From the OP :






The SPA ( Solidarity Party of Afghanistan ) is also an Afghan group but with progressive and contrasting ideas to the Taliban.

But will the Western governments leave the SPA behind in charge of Afghanistan ?



Maybe a simple hijab, maybe not at all. I can counter quote, which I have before.

But certainly not a centimeters thick "hijab" which Erdogan's wife wears or Yvonne Ridley wears.

But I agree, religious matters are not allowed on the forum.



Defend "their land" by oppressing their own people ? What logic is that ?



So whose matters ?



So who originated that strange phrase "The good Taliban" ?



1. The Soviet Union did not invade but came to assist a brotherly country just like how Russia is currently assisting Syria.

2. An actual invasion is like how NATO + GCC invaded Libya.



Here's some Dharmic anti-Muslim kindness on display in Delhi :

are you trying another Malala out of her seems like western media is working in that direction.

 

[jamahir]

SPA is non existent

It's like saying we should put the afghan Boy scouts in charge of Afghanistan

Again you discredit the 30,000 membership of SPA. Tell me straight, do you have sympathy for the progressive SPA ?

Secondly, even the Cuban revolutionaries of Fidel Castro, Che and others were numerically less but they eventually became the governance.

Thirdly, didn't Islam start with one man and then expand ?

The Taliban has mass support across Afghanistan, no peace is possible unless the Taliban come on board and are represented

How do you say that sitting in Britain ? Do you know the mind of every Afghan ? As long as even one progressive Afghan speaks against the Taliban it is good.

 

[Sharma Ji]

That's just the culture there now, 4 decades of war and superpower manipulation, and when they didn't have an external enemy, they turned their guns on each other.. shabaash.

The whole world should just leave them be, cut them off.. or the US should go in all guns blazing without silly handicaps like rules of engagement and fix them proper, find Arab like strongmen warlords and conditionally hand the country over to them after developing their mining industry and building trade routes through it. Keep a super massive military presence at all times for the next 50 years and take it from there.

Project Saudia 2.0

 

[jamahir]

are you trying another Malala out of her seems like western media is working in that direction.

Well, Malala and this woman were shot by the same people though this thought hadn't sincerely occurred to me.

As for Western media, in this case they just reported this crime this time. I know I must be careful about Western media given its history of propaganda against anti-imperialists. Also, it was the Western governments and the Western mainstream media who first spoke of "Good Taliban" as a way of legitimizing the Afghan Taliban.

That's just the culture there now, 4 decades of war and superpower manipulation, and when they didn't have an external enemy, they turned their guns on each other.. shabaash.

Underlined... true it is.

The whole world should just leave them be, cut them off.. or the US should go in all guns blazing without silly handicaps like rules of engagement and fix them proper, find Arab like strongmen warlords and conditionally hand the country over to them after developing their mining industry and building trade routes through it. Keep a super massive military presence at all times for the next 50 years and take it from there.

Project Saudia 2.0

NATO and US should exit and Russia and the other stans should enter. Help the progressives like SPA into governance. Develop the mining industry and build trade routes you mention.

 

[hussain0216]

Again you discredit the 30,000 membership of SPA. Tell me straight, do you have sympathy for the progressive SPA ?

Secondly, even the Cuban revolutionaries of Fidel Castro, Che and others were numerically less but they eventually became the governance.

Thirdly, didn't Islam start with one man and then expand ?



How do you say that sitting in Britain ? Do you know the mind of every Afghan ? As long as even one progressive Afghan speaks against the Taliban it is good.

30,000 is nothing,, let them stand for election


The Taliban are part of the future of Afghanistan, if 20 years of U.S occupation couldn't shake them then nothing will

 

[Sharma Ji]

NATO and US should exit and Russia and the other stans should enter. Help the progressives like SPA into governance. Develop the mining industry and build trade routes you mention.

The Russia of today aren't the USSR. That ideology is dead.

Afghanistan as it exists needs to be destroyed, and only the US can do it efficiently. Then create something new and mutually beneficial from it.

The Taliban are part of the future of Afghanistan, if 20 years of U.S occupation couldn't shake them then nothing will

Limp-wristed occupation. Waging a dirty war the "humane" way.. just doesn't work. Trump spoke of going in whole hog and maybe killing millions but getting a decisive military victory, which would be easily doable for the US even if they go it alone.

 

[jamahir]

30,000 is nothing,, let them stand for election

That unnecessarily complicated arrangement of five-yearly elections in a multi-party system is not True Democracy. Countries such as India, Pakistan, USA, Britain etc are not true democracies.

Which is why, political-system-wise, I propagate the pre-2011 Libyan system. Direct Democracy guided and tempered by socialism. You can read here how the system works.

Even Elon Musk has said that the governance system on near-future Mars colonies should be through direct democracy.

The Russia of today aren't the USSR. That ideology is dead.

Oh I wasn't talking about USSR's ideology but just that somehow to me Russia and the stans seem a more natural partner for Afghanistan than USA and the rest of the West.

Afghanistan as it exists needs to be destroyed, and only the US can do it efficiently. Then create something new and mutually beneficial from it.

Yes, no one destroys as efficiently as America but what is there in Afghanistan left to destroy ?

 

[Pak_Sher]

Afghan woman shot, blinded, for getting a job

Reuters | Nov 10, 2020, 13:24 IST

33-year-old Khatera was blinded after a gunmen attack in Ghazni province of Afghanistan

KABUL: The last thing 33-year-old Khatera saw were the three men on a motorcycle who attacked her just after she left her job at a police station in Afghanistan's central Ghazni province, shooting at her and stabbing her with a knife in the eyes.

Waking up in hospital, everything was dark.

"I asked the doctors, why I can't see anything? They told me that my eyes are still bandaged because of the wounds. But at that moment, I knew my eyes had been taken from me," she said.

She and local authorities blame the attack on Taliban militants - who deny involvement – and say the assailants acted on a tip-off from her father who vehemently opposed her working outside the home.

For Khatera, the attack caused not just the loss of her sight but the loss of a dream she had battled to achieve - to have an independent career. She joined the Ghazni police as an officer in its crime branch a few months ago.

"I wish I had served in police at least a year. If this had happened to me after that, it would have been less painful. It happened too soon ... I only got to work and live my dream for three months," she told Reuters.

The attack on Khatera, who only uses one name, is indicative of a growing trend, human rights activists say, of an intense and often violent backlash against women taking jobs, especially in public roles. In Khatera's case, being a police officer could have also angered the Taliban.

The rights activists believe a mix of Afghanistan's conservative social norms and an emboldened Taliban gaining influence while the United States withdraws its troops from the country is driving the escalation.

The Taliban are currently negotiating in Doha, Qatar, with the Afghan government to broker a peace deal in which many expect them to formally return to power, but progress is slow and there has been an uptick in fighting and attacks on officials and prominent women around the country.

In recent months, the Taliban have said they will respect women's rights under Sharia law but many educated women say they have doubts. The insurgent group has opposed a reform to add mother's names to identity cards, one of the first concrete stances they have revealed on women's rights as they engage in the peace process.

"Though the situation for Afghan women in public roles has always been perilous, the recent spike in violence across the country has made matters even worse," said Samira Hamidi, Amnesty International's Afghanistan campaigner. "The great strides made on women's rights in Afghanistan over more than a decade must not become a casualty of any peace deal with the Taliban."

CHILDHOOD DREAM DASHED

Khatera's dream as a child was to work outside the home and after years of trying to convince her father, to no avail, she was able to find support from her husband.

But her father, she said, did not give up on his opposition.

"Many times, as I went to duty, I saw my father following me ... he started contacting the Taliban in the nearby area and asked them to prevent me from going to my job," she said.

She said that he provided the Taliban with a copy of her ID card to prove she worked for police and that he had called her throughout the day she was attacked, asking for her location.

Ghazni's police spokesman confirmed they believed the Taliban were behind the attack and that Khatera's father had been taken into custody. Reuters was unable to reach him directly for comment.

A Taliban spokesman said the group was aware of the case, but that it was a family matter and they were not involved.

Khatera and her family, including five children, are now hiding out in Kabul, where she is recovering and mourning the career she lost.

She struggles to sleep, jumps when she hears a motorbike and has had to cut off contact with her extended family, including her mother, who blame her for her father's arrest. She hopes desperately that a doctor overseas might somehow be able to partially restore her sight.

"If it is possible, I get back my eyesight, I will resume my job and serve in the police again," she said, adding in part she needed an income to avoid destitution. "But the main reason is my passion to do a job outside the home."

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Jamahir's comment : Obviously, a very humane act on behalf of the "Good Taliban". Let those evil Afghan socialists go to hell. The Western governments are leaving behind the intellectual and progressive Taliban to rule Afghanistan. All is well, especially for Afghanistan's women. Cheers.

Worst form of human rights violation. Very sad and cruel.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

murder wanted by her mother and father but carried out through the Taliban who share the same regressive, anti-human ideas as the parents

Sorry dude. You're a smart guy usually. But clearly, you have no evidence that this is ideologically driven by the Taliban. Rather, the evidence points to an honour crime by relatives using some guns for hire. Pay the right amount and a talib or ANA or wagner or any merc will do such a thing.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Even Elon Musk has said that the governance system on near-future Mars colonies should be through direct democracy.

Yes, because "near future" mars colonies are likely to number in the hundreds or thousands, not hundred OF thousands, and not millions or hundred of millions, and certainly not a billion +

Oh I wasn't talking about USSR's ideology but just that somehow to me Russia and the stans seem a more natural partner for Afghanistan than USA and the rest of the West.

Exactly which other stans are you talking about here ?

Yes, no one destroys as efficiently as America but what is there in Afghanistan left to destroy ?

Those who still have the will to fight.

These are not great warriors, these are terrorist pedo rats and warlords. They'll be toast in a week if the US unleashed all hell on them but they always fought with one hand tied behind the back, "rules of engagement" and other nonsense, almost like the planners there wanted this to go on forever.. hmm

If they're really that mineral rich, the west could install a local clan or group whose presence will placate the locals and to whom they will listen to and abide by.. just like in Saudia, but it'll require some violence to achieve that objective.

 

[jamahir]

You're a smart guy usually.

Thank you.

But clearly, you have no evidence that this is ideologically driven by the Taliban. Rather, the evidence points to an honour crime by relatives using some guns for hire. Pay the right amount and a talib or ANA or wagner or any merc will do such a thing.

Firstly, I don't think there is Wagner operating in Afghanistan. Even if it is I don't think they will be this gira hua.

Secondly, you are correct, this was mainly an honor crime but not directly done by the parents.

As for who actually did it, the victim and her police department seem to think it was the Taliban as you can read in the OP. But @mumairb could have got it correct in his post# 6.

Yes, because "near future" mars colonies are likely to number in the hundreds or thousands, not hundred OF thousands, and not millions or hundred of millions, and certainly not a billion +

The number of colonies has no bearing on the adoption of direct democracy. It can be one or one dozen.

Exactly which other stans are you talking about here ?

Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan. Most or all of them have acted against regressive movements like the Tablighi Jamaat.

If they're really that mineral rich, the west could install a local clan or group whose presence will placate the locals and to whom they will listen to and abide by.. just like in Saudia, but it'll require some violence to achieve that objective.

The underlined logic I agree but why through the West ? Why not Russia and the culturally close stans ?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Kazakhstan

seen the new one ?

not a patch on the original but funny in parts, 99% staged though.

Why not Russia and the culturally close stans ?

culturally and ethnically they're all over the blace, some Uzbekis, some Pashto, some Tajik some this some that.

Ok, it was treated poorly.. but then it went rabid and must now be put down, put to sleep. Wipe it out and put something new in there. Saud type scene, make them feel important but keep them subservient... minerals at best price for glorious democracy of USA.

A massive military presence and bordering a bit of Chy-Na !

 

[xyx007]

Well, Malala and this woman were shot by the same people though this thought hadn't sincerely occurred to me.

As for Western media, in this case they just reported this crime this time. I know I must be careful about Western media given its history of propaganda against anti-imperialists. Also, it was the Western governments and the Western mainstream media who first spoke of "Good Taliban" as a way of legitimizing the Afghan Taliban.



Underlined... true it is.



NATO and US should exit and Russia and the other stans should enter. Help the progressives like SPA into governance. Develop the mining industry and build trade routes you mention.

In capitalist western colonies, We obey them, and the slogan for Mera Jism meri Marzi only for countries like us. If patients refusing to be examined by a doctor of the opposite sex could face five years in prison or an $88,000 fine, it doesn't apply in France.

 

[Iranitaakharin]

Very disgusting for her own father to tip off thugs to attack his daughter.