Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft [AMCA] Development | Updates & Discussions.

[sancho]

Will you please stay on topic?

Exactly, back to topic please!

 

[Agent_47]

@sancho

 

[kurup]

@sancho

So it will not have side weapon bays for WVR missiles ....

 

[sancho]

So it will not have side weapon bays for WVR missiles ....

That needs to be seen I guess, so far they focus mainly on the primary weapon bay, but if they won't have missile bays, the whole design is even more pathetic than I expected.
Btw, if we can take the size of the weaponbay in the pic as the actually planned size, it gets even more evident, that the weaponbay is rather small. The length would be hardly 4m which is enough for the BVR missiles or the SDB / SPICE 250 like quadpacks, just as the 2 x 1000lb bombs with also were shown, but not enough for 2000lb bombs. That would suggest the following configs:

A2A
- up to 6 x AAMs
=> 900Kg payload

A2G heavy attack
- 2 x BVR missiles
- 2 x 1000lb bombs
=> 1300Kg payload

A2G light attack
- 2 x BVR missiles
- 8 x 500lb bombs
=> 1300Kg payload

 

[Bhuvan93]

"At the moment, the greatest hypothetical weight configuration of the AMCA design (with fuel and a certain weapons mix) has been calculated to be around 24.2 tons and ADA designers are confident that even with 105 KN engines, the AMCA would be able to meet design aerodynamic parameters. However given the experience with the LCA program, ADA this time really wants that 5 KN margin in order to be safe rather than sorry. It seems that the AMCA will also have an unusually large internal weapons bay that will have the capacity to accommodate around three tons worth of weapons. The AMCA will also feature six underwing pylons for externally carried weapons."

Reported by Saurav Jha in Dec '14.

How much can you really go on those graphics? They're not particularly polished and just seem to be put together in a hurry with a "Jaldi, Jaldi, put some missiles/bombs in there".

 

[sancho]

How much can you really go on those graphics?

That's the question, but since they are officially published by ADA (at least the video), it's the most reliable info that we have so far.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Russia to partner in AMCA technologies
By SP's Special Correspondent

March 07, 2015: India has approached Russia to partner it on certain critical technologies for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

Top sources tellSP's that the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has asked Russia for assistance in developing thrust vectoring and certain other technologies on the concept fifth generation jet platform. There has been steady progress in the programme following the basic design freeze. The ADA has opened discussions with turbofan houses in the US, Russia and Europe for what it believes need to be 110 kN engines in twin configuration for the AMCA. The engines will specifically need to support supercruise. The ADA has indicated to engine manufacturers that modifications could potentially be a joint effort in country, involving the DRDO and other agencies if necessary.

Either way, the ADA has ambitiously aimed at producing up to four prototypes, with the first rolling out in 2019. As the ADA recently set down as the aircraft's profile and definition, "The AMCA is being designed as a stealth, medium weight, twin engine, multimission aircraft with a swing-role capability. Among the advanced technologies that confer stealth capabilities are serpentine air intakes, internal weapons bays, radar absorbing structure (RAS), radar absorbing materials (RAM), frequency selective surface radome and conformal air data probes. The avionics system features integrated modular architecture supporting NCW capabilities, advanced pilot-vehicle interface, pilot associate and integrated vehicle health management. The integrated flight and propulsion control system will combine the traditional flight control functions with thrust vectoring and engine control functions."

Russia to partner in AMCA technologies
- SP's MAI

 

[Superboy]

Is AMCA sort of like J-31 in terms of size?

Shenyang J-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ind4Ever]

Is AMCA sort of like J-31 in terms of size?

Shenyang J-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

May be . AMCA is for medium multi-role aircraft . FGFA / PAK FA are large air Superiority fighters same like Chinese have planned . Of course .
AMCA - J31
FGFA - J20
MKI - MKK / J11
MiG 29 upg - ?????
TEJAS MK1/MK2 - J10B
SU35S - Su35
Super Sukoi - Su35

General comparison

 

[Superboy]

May be . AMCA is for medium multi-role aircraft . FGFA / PAK FA are large air Superiority fighters same like Chinese have planned . Of course .
AMCA - J31
FGFA - J20
MKI - MKK / J11
MiG 29 upg - ?????
TEJAS MK1/MK2 - J10B
SU35S - Su35
Super Sukoi - Su35

General comparison

Tejas is a light fighter. J-10B is a medium fighter.

Rafale and MiG-29 - J-10B and F-16
Tejas - JF-17

 

[Ind4Ever]

C

Tejas is a light fighter. J-10B is a medium fighter.

Rafale and MiG-29 - J-10B and F-16
Tejas - JF-17

But both are single engine ! In fact MK1 may not be on par with J10B but MK2 will have better configuration .

Jf17 is more or less compared to J7 with more improved avionics .

And please don't compare J10B with Rafales it's really absurd !!!

MiG 29 is a good comparison to f 16 but MiG 29 upg is more advanced than f 16 .

 

[Superboy]

C


But both are single engine ! In fact MK1 may not be on par with J10B but MK2 will have better configuration .

Jf17 is more or less compared to J7 with more improved avionics .

And please don't compare J10B with Rafales it's really absurd !!!

MiG 29 is a good comparison to f 16 but MiG 29 upg is more advanced than f 16 .

JF-17 has nothing to do with J-7. That be like saying F-16 is really an improved F-5.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Saurav Jha @SJha1618 · 8m8 minutes ago
Klimov has been brought in as a partner for developing thrust vectoring nozzles for future engines to be used in the AMCA program.

Saurav Jha @SJha1618 · 9m9 minutes ago
Klimov has been brought in as a partner for developing thrust vectoring capability for future engines to be used in the AMCA program.

 

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[HariPrasad]

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Oh My god what a design.