A US Abstention in UNSC Resolution: The Birth of Palestine?

[Meengla]

Well it won't really do much good. In the Cold War era, French went all against them being a UNSC permanent member as well. Nothing much happened except Israel managing to make indigenous Mirages, crushing the UAR's air forces and winning the war.
Frankly put, you'd be thinking out of the box as well if your homeland's survival was at stake as well.

Like it or not, Israel here here to stay.

It is pragmatic if the middle eastern countries come together and make peace with its existence, therefore saving the world of another bloodbath like the one between 1938-1945.

I am simply throwing the worst case scenarios man.

Remember, in survival even a single man resorts to cannibalism when deserted with no food, water or resources.

You're talking about a country here; a highly intelligent, highly educated and fiercely nationalistic country.

Firstly, you can't compare the French in the UNSC with the Americans in UNSC: The French and the Brits are going to follow America's lead in the UNSC. And very recently I have even seen some Israelis wanting to offer some bones to Russia in order to secure a Veto--should Obama decide to go the Abstention route. That desperate is the situation for Israel in case Obama does follow the UNSC route--there is not question about that.

I don't think I ever wished--or even implied Israel's destruction. On the contrary: Israel can be a beacon for democracy, human rights, technological innovation in that region if/when Israel decides to join the region as part of that region instead being a proudly self-declared last-bastion of the West in that region; the last-bastion position is simply untenable: Today the Arabs are weak and today Israel has the sole Superpower's support (though that too is certainly not rising amongst the Democrats). Tomorrow is another day.

BTW, by giving up some viable State to the Palestinians, Israel's survival is not threatened; However, the 'Settlers Enterprise' is certainly threatened. The Military Contractors (in both America and Israel) are certainly threatened.

Finally, you need to quit using these things like 'Israel is here to stay': Nowadays, many Muslims, or even a Muslim majority is willing to live with Israel. The Saudi Peace Offer of 2002 still stands. However, I don't think, the Israelis WERE ever going to allow a viable Palestinian state between Med. and Dead Seas.

Israeli attempt to create a 'Lebensraum' and Israeli attempt to duplicate the European conquest of North America must be defeated. A former US President Mr. Carter and the current US President Mr. Obama seem determine to do exactly that.

 

[Meengla]

The latest on this historic break.. Straight from Obama's own mouth. May he be well protected personally!.

The whole article is well worth reading...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/w...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

“While taking into complete account Israel’s security, we can’t just in perpetuity maintain the status quo, expand settlements — that’s not a recipe for stability in the region,” Mr. Obama said.

 

[New World]

Mossad will most likely take care of EU countries' leaders.

Bolded part: Really? And how would it help Israel to further antagonize the Europeans by killing EU countries' leaders? Come on, man, you know better than that.

Just like Charlie hebdo in France and Clashes in Sweden, when both countries publicly support Palestinian state.

 

[Black Mamba1]

Just like Charlie hebdo in France and Clashes in Sweden, when both countries publicly support Palestinian state.

Considering the fact that US is being run by Jews from background also considering the strength of Jew lobby within US, I can tell that even if Obama wishes he cannot go against Jew lobby.

Don't forget what happened to an one president in 60's for just expressing desire to undermining that lobby. Hope Obama will be in his sense soon before it is too late other wise God save him.

 

[Meengla]

Considering the fact that US is being run by Jews from background also considering the strength of Jew lobby within US, I can tell that even if Obama wishes he cannot go against Jew lobby.

Don't forget what happened to an one president in 60's for just expressing desire to undermining that lobby. Hope Obama will be in his sense soon before it is too late other wise God save him.

Yes, I too fear for Obama's personal safety! The moles the Israelis have in the US political and security establishments are very powerful and pervasive. And that's why I keep saying that may he be well protected! He is dealing with fanatics who think that God himself is on their side.

A UNSC resolution is being contemplated by France calling for the removal of Israeli forces from the 1967 borders and a firm time frame for the establishment of a Palestinian state. At this point, it is almost certain that Obama's team will 'Abstain'. Once the Resolution is passed it is curtains for the Lebensraum version of Israel--at least all legal pretense will be removed. I don't think the Messianic Zealots in Israel--who are no less primitive and dangerous than, say, Al Qaida is, are going to sit quietly.

 

[Tshering22]

Just like Charlie hebdo in France and Clashes in Sweden, when both countries publicly support Palestinian state.

Erm... a gentle reminder: those clashes and attacks in Sweden and Paris were done by people of your community, just in case you don't remember..

By framing Israelis for the attack, are you trying to say that islamic community is obedient to the Israelis?

Because I think that would clearly be offensive to many members here.

 

[New World]

Erm... a gentle reminder: those clashes and attacks in Sweden and Paris were done by people of your community, just in case you don't remember..

By framing Israelis for the attack, are you trying to say that islamic community is obedient to the Israelis?

Because I think that would clearly be offensive to many members here.

Erm.. a gentle example: if few Hindu in India is working for Pakistan and damage India a lot.

But You Directly accuse Pakistan for the attack, So, we can suppose that every Hindu in India is Obedient to the Pakistan?

 

[New World]

Considering the fact that US is being run by Jews from background also considering the strength of Jew lobby within US, I can tell that even if Obama wishes he cannot go against Jew lobby.

Don't forget what happened to an one president in 60's for just expressing desire to undermining that lobby. Hope Obama will be in his sense soon before it is too late other wise God save him.

Oh! the Kennedy Brothers right?

 

[Tshering22]

Erm.. a gentle example: if few Hindu in India is working for Pakistan and damage India a lot.

But You Directly accuse Pakistan for the attack, So, we can suppose that every Hindu in India is Obedient to the Pakistan?

Your 'a few' excuse can be said in one place, in two places, but not when two dozen countries are facing the same type of problems, from the same community across the world, irrespective of their cultures.

Try something new, buddy.