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There are signs Israel may be at war again this summer. This time, not with Hamas in Gaza but with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Such a war may be the result not only of spillover from the Syrian war or ongoing Israeli-Hezbollah tensions. The deciding factor may be an Israeli calculation that war will shift momentum in the U.S. Congress decisively against the pending nuclear deal with Iran -- a deal that critics say will increase Iran's maneuverability in the region, including its support for Hezbollah.

In spite of AIPAC, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Saudis and some of its GCC allies having done everything they could to kill the pending nuclear deal with Iran, they have failed. The negotiations are on track. Many opinion polls showthat a comfortable majority of Americans support President Barack Obama's diplomacy with Iran.

If a Congressional vote on a resolution rejecting the nuclear deal were held today,President Obama probably would prevail -- possibly without even having to use his veto to defeat the attempt by Republicans and pro-Netanyahu Democrats to scuttle the historic diplomatic agreement with Tehran. Opposition arguments -- from claiming that the deal is a capitulation to Iran to the notion that it is unacceptable to make a deal with a regime like that in Tehran -- have not sufficiently resonated with the public to kill the agreement. This has caused some disarray in the opposition camp.

Indeed, if you are in that camp right now, it is reasonable to expect that the search is not for a new argument but for a game changing development: an event so powerful it shifts the momentum in Congress back to AIPAC, Netanyahu, Saudi Arabia and the other opponents of a nuclear deal.

Arguably, a military confrontation between Israel and Hezbollah this summer could fit that bill. The argument that the deal -- and the more than $50bn that would be returned to Tehran -- would strengthen Iran in the region and empower its allies would become much more potent if Israel were in an active conflict with Lebanon with Hezbollah rockets hitting Israeli cities, as was the case in 2006. Such a scenario can become the much desired game-changer that may cause many pro-Netanyahu Democrats to break with Obama.

All of this could be dismissed as speculative except for the fact that a case for a war with Hezbollah has been made in Israel for the past few months. On May 12 the New York Times reported that Israeli is preparing for "what it sees as an almost inevitable next battle with Hezbollah." An Israeli official added in comments to the Times: "We will hit Hezbollah hard."

The Israelis argue that Hezbollah is engaged in a massive military buildup, and that Israel is publicizing Hezbollah's armament "to put the problem on the international agenda in case there is another conflict." According to the Israeli military, Hezbollah now has the capacity to hurl 1200 rockets a day at Israel.

Israel has been pushing this angle for several months. In February, 28 US lawmakers came to Israel's aid and wrote the Secretary General of the UN Ban Ki-moon,demanding that the UN stop Hezbollah from rearming. The letter accused the UN of failing to enforce resolutions, including one that requires the "disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias."

"The violence in the area caused by Hezbollah is horrific, and it results from the failure of the United Nations to enforce Security Council Resolutions 1559 and 1701," the lawmakers wrote.

The case for preventive military action against Hezbollah was recently made by Ambassador Dore Gold, who is considered close to Netanyahu and was just appointed director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry. Accusing the UN of having failed to stop Hezbollah, Gold argues that "Either the IDF will have to destroy the weapons now being stored in southern Lebanon, or let Hezbollah fire thousands of rockets into Israel. What would you do?"

Hezbollah already seems overextended due to its involvement in the Syria conflict, and it could ill afford a war with Israel at this time. Nonetheless, if Israel attacks Lebanon, it is difficult to imagine Hezbollah not responding, despite its difficulties in Syria and despite the impact it may have on the ongoing Iran talks.

General Yahya Rahim Safavi, military adviser to Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned on May 21 that any Israeli attack would unleash a firestorm of missiles on its cities. "Iran, with the help of Hezbollah and its friends, is capable of destroying Tel Aviv and Haifa in case of military aggression on the part of the Zionists," he said.

Clearly, if Israel and Hezbollah do go to war, killing the Iran agreement would not be the only motivation. But the prospect that such a war would greatly support the rhetoric of those in the United States arguing against the deal with Iran would certainly be a major consideration in the minds of Israeli policymakers. The temptation of being able to kill the Iran agreement may become the deciding factor in Israel's decision-making.

If so, it wouldn't be the first time that an Israeli confrontation with Hezbollah would be motivated by a belief (or desire) that war with Iran was looming. In the midst of the Israeli-Lebanese war in 2006, Israel's then-Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh said Lebanon was all about Iran. "War with Iran is inevitable. Lebanon is just a prelude to the greater war with Iran," he commented.

Sneh was wrong. War with Iran neither was nor is inevitable. But a war with Hezbollah this summer can help Israel make sure that peace with Iran is beyond Obama's reach

The Iran Talks Game Changer: An Israeli-Hezbollah War? | Trita Parsi
 
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This article is stupid, whether a deal is reached or not, it will not result in a war in Lebanon. US will not go to war with Iran. US concerns regarding war with Iran isn't military concern, it is about what might follow afterwards. They know very well if Iranian regime is toppled Sunni 'extremists' will be strengthened in the region, possibly larger scale than people expected. Same with Israel, if it severely weakens Hezbollah and Assad fell in the process, it would mean a Sunni 'extremist' takeover of Lebanon. Iran is in a weak position, it can't respond if attacked. It can only request Hezbollah to fire, which is a risk because of aftermath in Syria, region. If the West does attack Iran, they would be making stupidest mistake in history of ME. This is why Western politicians oppose war with Iran. Only Jewish/Evangelist politicians want one.

So if they're required to ground invasion that would be their nightmare as I stated because Islamists will make quick victories in the region. And if Hezbollah does fire, it knows the problem lies in empowering Sunni Islamists. Iran can't do much, which is why it expects Hezbollah to do all the work. Which is really odd, that means Iran fears defending itself. There will be no other 'allies' who respond. Only Hezbollah. Palestinians will not get involved at all. Any isolated Palestinian party that tries to(Sabareen party) will be apprehended and their whole organizaton will be dismantled and never allowed to carry out any activities from then on.

The danger in the summer won't come from West/Iran war. It will be Saudi/Iran war. And the proxies involved who will greatly exacerbate situation.
 
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One thing is for sure, Iran's rampant terrorism whether through Hezbollah or its agents abroad like recently exposed in Cyprus, will be answered soon by Israel.
 
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There wont be a Saudi-Iran war.Atleast not directly. We are not stupid to fight Western puppet AGAIN, we made that mistake with Saddam. Our end goal is US,Israel and not their puppets.
This article is stupid, whether a deal is reached or not, it will not result in a war in Lebanon. US will not go to war with Iran. US concerns regarding war with Iran isn't military concern, it is about what might follow afterwards. They know very well if Iranian regime is toppled Sunni 'extremists' will be strengthened in the region, possibly larger scale than people expected. Same with Israel, if it severely weakens Hezbollah and Assad fell in the process, it would mean a Sunni 'extremist' takeover of Lebanon. Iran is in a weak position, it can't respond if attacked. It can only request Hezbollah to fire, which is a risk because of aftermath in Syria, region. If the West does attack Iran, they would be making stupidest mistake in history of ME. This is why Western politicians oppose war with Iran. Only Jewish/Evangelist politicians want one.

So if they're required to ground invasion that would be their nightmare as I stated because Islamists will make quick victories in the region. And if Hezbollah does fire, it knows the problem lies in empowering Sunni Islamists. Iran can't do much, which is why it expects Hezbollah to do all the work. Which is really odd, that means Iran fears defending itself. There will be no other 'allies' who respond. Only Hezbollah. Palestinians will not get involved at all. Any isolated Palestinian party that tries to(Sabareen party) will be apprehended and their whole organizaton will be dismantled and never allowed to carry out any activities from then on.

The danger in the summer won't come from West/Iran war. It will be Saudi/Iran war. And the proxies involved who will greatly exacerbate situation.
 
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One thing is for sure, Iran's rampant terrorism whether through Hezbollah or its agents abroad like recently exposed in Cyprus, will be answered soon by Israel.

Go ahead buddy, you liars have been barking for decades now. Iranian-Israeli barking doesn't fool anyone. Go ahead and target Hezbollah and quit making empty threats.

There wont be a Saudi-Iran war.Atleast not directly. We are not stupid to fight Western puppet AGAIN, we made that mistake with Saddam. Our end goal is US,Israel and not their puppets.

Your end goal is achieving your national interests which largely based in Arab world....not US/Israel.
 
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Go ahead buddy, you liars have been barking for decades now. Iranian-Israeli barking doesn't fool anyone. Go ahead and target Hezbollah and quit making empty threats.



Your end goal is achieving your national interests which largely based in Arab world....not US/Israel.
Every country has national interests.
 
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Go ahead buddy, you liars have been barking for decades now. Iranian-Israeli barking doesn't fool anyone. Go ahead and target Hezbollah and quit making empty threats.

What a pathetic child you are :lol:. Who do you think liquidated the mughniyeh rat a few months ago along with a senior Iranian terrorist?

More of this will be coming soon due to Iranian terrorism.

You should know Israel always responds. You've lost enough of your terrorist leaders to know that.
 
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What a pathetic child you are :lol:. Who do you think liquidated the mughniyeh rat a few months ago along with a senior Iranian terrorist?

More of this will be coming soon due to Iranian terrorism.

You should Israel always responds. You've lost enough of your terrorist leaders to know that.

Buddy, quit barking on launch war on Hezbollah in Lebanon. Since for the past decade we have been hearing barking rhetoric of how you're sworn enemies and how Hezbollah is the main threat in region. So stop barking and go to war. You have the firepower, the only thing preventing you are political calculations. And you can guess what those are on your own barker.
 
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Buddy, quit barking on launch war on Hezbollah in Lebanon. Since for the past decade we have been hearing barking rhetoric of how you're sworn enemies and how Hezbollah is the main threat in region. So stop barking and go to war. You have the firepower, the only thing preventing you are political calculations. And you can guess what those are on your own barker.

Why launch a war now? ISIS and Hezbollah are killing each other.

Just sit back and watch it. Treat a few wounded strays near the border, but other than that it doesn't affect Israel.

The moment Iran tries to set up shop on the border, they get zapped.

Their whole Golan unit was liquidated in one go. They trained them up for months/years, only to lose them in an instant :lol:
 
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Mr. Netanyahu, strike the slaves of Persians with all of your might. Please do and all of us are behind you.

Hey genius use your brain for a slight moment, it's not in his interest to strike 'slave of Persians'. And don't be a coward and rally behind an enemy, Arabs can deal with the Iranian problem. You're embarrassing your country and your ancestors when you make statements like these.

Why launch a war now? ISIS and Hezbollah are killing each other.

Just sit back and watch it. Treat a few wounded strays near the border, but other than that it doesn't affect Israel.

The moment Iran tries to set up shop on the border, they get zapped.

Their whole Golan unit was liquidated in one go. They trained them up for months/years, only to lose them in an instant :lol:

Buddy, 24/7 Israeli's are barking of how Iran/Hezbollah are the most dangerous people in the Universe and that every summer since 2006 they predict a war in Lebanon. In all your political statements, publications, vows, we have been hearing this nonsense forever now. Truth is Iran is an indirect ally to Israel. If Iran/Hezbollah fall, Israel falls. Israel knows that. This is why it never goes to war with either. So stop barking and creating these threads.
 
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There are signs Israel may be at war again this summer. This time, not with Hamas in Gaza but with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Such a war may be the result not only of spillover from the Syrian war or ongoing Israeli-Hezbollah tensions. The deciding factor may be an Israeli calculation that war will shift momentum in the U.S. Congress decisively against the pending nuclear deal with Iran -- a deal that critics say will increase Iran's maneuverability in the region, including its support for Hezbollah.

In spite of AIPAC, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Saudis and some of its GCC allies having done everything they could to kill the pending nuclear deal with Iran, they have failed. The negotiations are on track. Many opinion polls showthat a comfortable majority of Americans support President Barack Obama's diplomacy with Iran.

If a Congressional vote on a resolution rejecting the nuclear deal were held today,President Obama probably would prevail -- possibly without even having to use his veto to defeat the attempt by Republicans and pro-Netanyahu Democrats to scuttle the historic diplomatic agreement with Tehran. Opposition arguments -- from claiming that the deal is a capitulation to Iran to the notion that it is unacceptable to make a deal with a regime like that in Tehran -- have not sufficiently resonated with the public to kill the agreement. This has caused some disarray in the opposition camp.

Indeed, if you are in that camp right now, it is reasonable to expect that the search is not for a new argument but for a game changing development: an event so powerful it shifts the momentum in Congress back to AIPAC, Netanyahu, Saudi Arabia and the other opponents of a nuclear deal.

Arguably, a military confrontation between Israel and Hezbollah this summer could fit that bill. The argument that the deal -- and the more than $50bn that would be returned to Tehran -- would strengthen Iran in the region and empower its allies would become much more potent if Israel were in an active conflict with Lebanon with Hezbollah rockets hitting Israeli cities, as was the case in 2006. Such a scenario can become the much desired game-changer that may cause many pro-Netanyahu Democrats to break with Obama.

All of this could be dismissed as speculative except for the fact that a case for a war with Hezbollah has been made in Israel for the past few months. On May 12 the New York Times reported that Israeli is preparing for "what it sees as an almost inevitable next battle with Hezbollah." An Israeli official added in comments to the Times: "We will hit Hezbollah hard."

The Israelis argue that Hezbollah is engaged in a massive military buildup, and that Israel is publicizing Hezbollah's armament "to put the problem on the international agenda in case there is another conflict." According to the Israeli military, Hezbollah now has the capacity to hurl 1200 rockets a day at Israel.

Israel has been pushing this angle for several months. In February, 28 US lawmakers came to Israel's aid and wrote the Secretary General of the UN Ban Ki-moon,demanding that the UN stop Hezbollah from rearming. The letter accused the UN of failing to enforce resolutions, including one that requires the "disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias."

"The violence in the area caused by Hezbollah is horrific, and it results from the failure of the United Nations to enforce Security Council Resolutions 1559 and 1701," the lawmakers wrote.

The case for preventive military action against Hezbollah was recently made by Ambassador Dore Gold, who is considered close to Netanyahu and was just appointed director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry. Accusing the UN of having failed to stop Hezbollah, Gold argues that "Either the IDF will have to destroy the weapons now being stored in southern Lebanon, or let Hezbollah fire thousands of rockets into Israel. What would you do?"

Hezbollah already seems overextended due to its involvement in the Syria conflict, and it could ill afford a war with Israel at this time. Nonetheless, if Israel attacks Lebanon, it is difficult to imagine Hezbollah not responding, despite its difficulties in Syria and despite the impact it may have on the ongoing Iran talks.

General Yahya Rahim Safavi, military adviser to Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned on May 21 that any Israeli attack would unleash a firestorm of missiles on its cities. "Iran, with the help of Hezbollah and its friends, is capable of destroying Tel Aviv and Haifa in case of military aggression on the part of the Zionists," he said.

Clearly, if Israel and Hezbollah do go to war, killing the Iran agreement would not be the only motivation. But the prospect that such a war would greatly support the rhetoric of those in the United States arguing against the deal with Iran would certainly be a major consideration in the minds of Israeli policymakers. The temptation of being able to kill the Iran agreement may become the deciding factor in Israel's decision-making.

If so, it wouldn't be the first time that an Israeli confrontation with Hezbollah would be motivated by a belief (or desire) that war with Iran was looming. In the midst of the Israeli-Lebanese war in 2006, Israel's then-Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh said Lebanon was all about Iran. "War with Iran is inevitable. Lebanon is just a prelude to the greater war with Iran," he commented.

Sneh was wrong. War with Iran neither was nor is inevitable. But a war with Hezbollah this summer can help Israel make sure that peace with Iran is beyond Obama's reach

The Iran Talks Game Changer: An Israeli-Hezbollah War? | Trita Parsi


Think about your economy and your people. Even if you give your heart out for Palestine or Lebanon they still will be abusing you. Let aside this Ummah crap and think about your Iranian fellows.
 
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Think about your economy and your people. Even if you give your heart out for Palestine or Lebanon they still will be abusing you. Let aside this Ummah crap and think about your Iranian fellows.

It's about national interest, not Lebanon/Palestine.
 
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It's about national interest, not Lebanon/Palestine.

Yes it is. You are absolutely right but the way you Palestinians switch sides make every one feel (though you have no one other then muslims and to be precise it was Iran only) that you are not a good side to trust on. Sorry to say but this is the impression you give to others and to be honest most of the people say the same things that Palestinians are known for switching sides.
 
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Yes it is. You are absolutely right but the way you Palestinians switch sides make every one feel (though you have no one other then muslims and to be precise it was Iran only) that you are not a good side to trust on. Sorry to say but this is the impression you give to others and to be honest most of the people say the same things that Palestinians are known for switching sides.

Well good for you.
 
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