A Pakistan citizen is brutally killed in Germany!

[Umair Nawaz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341735522272763906

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341722428016386050

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341723211042607112

https://twitter.com/x/status/1341724298839531521

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1341760695310962689

 

[El Sidd]

Die Deutsche Regierung muss mehr gegen Rechtradaikalismus antun.

Es ist ganz schön traurig wie Deutschland hat zurückgezogen in 1980s dank fehlerhafter Politik importiert von USA.

 

[Kingslayerr]

If you have a problem with people or state wishing christians christmas than you need to learn to co-exist man.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Die Deutsche Regierung muss mehr gegen Rechtradaikalismus antun.

Es ist ganz schön traurig wie Deutschland hat zurückgezogen in 1980s dank fehlerhafter Politik importiert von USA.

Sir we don't know anything about murderers. All we know is a guy with a beard in a country, which has a fishy past was murdered. What we don't know is that who really the murderer is. Lets see.

 

[Iltutmish]

No German newspaper is reporting on this incident :O?

 

[El Sidd]

Sir we don't know anything about murderers. All we know is a guy with a beard in a country, which has a fishy past was murdered. What we don't know is that who really the murderer is. Lets see.

But we do know how high profile cases of right wing radicals in the German system have come to light.

Frau Merkel is heading a multi pronged strategy in that regard but Europe is going through a mini fascist wave. The ongoing financial crisis is not helping in that regard.

These are all very small towns. You don't need sherlock to solve this.

 

[fitpOsitive]

But we do know how high profile cases of right wing radicals in the German system have come to light.

Frau Merkel is heading a multi pronged strategy in that regard but Europe is going through a mini fascist wave. The ongoing financial crisis is not helping in that regard.

These are all very small towns. You don't need sherlock to solve this.

You are right. Lets see what investigators say.

 

[Trango Towers]

This is truly sad.
I am sure the German police will arrest the culprit who has just wasted his life. Once inside what will he have achieved?

 

[El Sidd]

You are right. Lets see what investigators say. And tbh, I trust German investigators and justice system more than Pakistani investigators and justice system.

Es ist fair wie menschlich möglich und sowie effizient.

However details may not be open for the public for some foreseeable future given the strict privacy laws in the European country.

You can explore his link back to Pakistan and see if there's a motive till then

 

[Umair Nawaz]

So let me ask the most important question, what does this hold for the Christianity in Pakistan? which was introduced by Colonial British in our South Asian region in the first place? If some die hard Muslim takes a revenge on them for this then what?

Why is this State so lenient on non Muslims themselves rather then on those who basically dont even belong here in the first place since this was the country born by the Muslims and for the Muslims afterall?

 

[El Sidd]

Pta nai bhai, der lagta hai keh yeh German saly phir pagal na hojain....

You are safe. Don't worry lol

 

[Kingslayerr]

So let me ask the most important question, what does this hold for the Christianity in Pakistan? which was introduced by Colonial British in our South Asian region in the first place? If some die hard Muslim takes a revenge on them for this then what?

Why is this State so lenient on Muslims themselves rather then on those who basically dont even belong here in the first place since this was the country born by the Muslims and for the Muslims afterall?

While the father of this very nation wanted it to be a secular state. And believe me you're so very wrong. This country is not only for the muslims. This country was born so that muslims of south asia can have a separate homeland and do not have to live under hindu rule, thats it. So it doesn't mean that people from other religion cannot live here. They can. Do you know what the white part in the pakistani flag stands for? And even if we talk about Quran than Quran also teaches muslims how to co-exist with people from other religion. There's a reason its said that Quran is the complete code of life. And if you can't learn to co-exist than its your problem. Pakistan should be a welfare state where people from any background can come, should be given respect and can live a happy life. Take your extremist views to somewhere else. Go live in middle east theres no place for extremist in this country we already have so many. And if some die hard muslim kills a muslim or a christian or a hindu or anyone from any other religion than i think i dont need to tell you what Quran says about killing an innocent same goes to the innocent man than is murdered in Germany. LEARN TO CO-EXIST. Cheers!!

 

[Iltutmish]

No German newspaper is reporting on this incident :O?

Tötungsdelikt in Ebersbach: Das Opfer war Imam in Stuttgart

Die Kripo ist nach der Bluttat in Ebersbach noch ohne heiße Spur – derweil gehen Traueradressen aus pakistanischen Diplomatenkreisen ein.

www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de

Now one local newspaper is reporting on that topic but it's behind a paywall...

 

[PakPrinciples]

So let me ask the most important question, what does this hold for the Christianity in Pakistan? which was introduced by Colonial British in our South Asian region in the first place? If some die hard Muslim takes a revenge on them for this then what?

If you have a problem with people or state wishing christians christmas than you need to learn to co-exist man.

Unfortunately, as I've stated before, co-existence and multiculturalism isn't really possible.

The only Western nations where I can see it working long term is the US, Canada and Australia because almost no one here is "indigenous" so they have no actual claim to the land, its resources or history while the native population has been largely wiped out.

I've even been critical of democracy in the past but an Islamic Republic, a democracy based on the Quran and Sunnah, can work since the laws are based on a concrete foundation of teachings and principles that over 200 Million Pakistani's hold above all else including party affiliation, political personalities, etc...

This is only going to get worse and frankly the only saving grace is that as the economies of Muslim nations improve fewer and fewer will opt to live in the West the same thing will happen with non-Muslim nations as well who've been large sources of immigrants to the West (ex. Mexico)

While the father of this very nation wanted it to be a secular state.

Please, could you guys just stop with these deranged lies?

This isn't even a debate anymore, Pakistan was always intended to be an Islamic Republic. If you want to discuss the rights and responsibilities of Muslims and non-Muslims that's another discussion.

I mean the fact that Jinnah was the head of the MUSLIM League, not the Justice League or Secular League, should have been indicative of that.

Pakistan had many men who were absolutely necessary for the founding of the nation.

One such man is Allama Iqbal who made it clear through the Allahabad Address:

“India is a continent of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions [...] Personally, I would like to see thePunjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.”​

Sir Muhammad Iqbal 29 December 1930​

Chaudhary Rehmat Ali is another necessary figure who wrote “Now or Never: Are we to perish or live forever?” published in 1933 that reconfirmed Iqbal and the Muslim League stance stating:

“all those five Provinces [Punjab, NWFP, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan] should have a separate Federation of their own outside India... we are entitled to ask our delegates for what purpose we are being pressed to sacrifice our nationality [Pakistan] and to submit ourselves and our posterity to non-Muslim domination.​

https://www.indiaofthepast.org/images/pdf/1930s/now_or_never.pdf

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After joining the Muslim League it was Jinnah who put the final nail in the coffin confirming the two nation theory stating:

"It is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality... Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions."​

Mohammed Ali Jinnah 23 March 1940​

We have a host of speeches made by Jinnah where he makes it very clear that Pakistan would be an “Islamic State” based on the principles of “Islamic Socialism not other -isms”, made by Muslims for Muslims in which the laws would “[not] be in conflict with Shariat Laws”.

So what alternate history are you reading?

Even those people who use Bangladeh's independence totally discount the words of guys like Yuri Bezmenov's interview from the 80s:

There's a lot more I can discuss on this topic but please just stop with the lies.

 

[Awan68]

Unfortunately, as I've stated before, co-existence and multiculturalism isn't really possible.

The only Western nations where I can see it working long term is the US, Canada and Australia because almost no one here is "indigenous" so they have no actual claim to the land, its resources or history while the native population has been largely wiped out.

I've even been critical of democracy in the past but an Islamic Republic, a democracy based on the Quran and Sunnah, can work since the laws are based on a concrete foundation of teachings and principles that over 200 Million Pakistani's hold above all else including party affiliation, political personalities, etc...

This is only going to get worse and frankly the only saving grace is that as the economies of Muslim nations improve fewer and fewer will opt to live in the West the same thing will happen with non-Muslim nations as well who've been large sources of immigrants to the West (ex. Mexico)



Please, could you guys just stop with these deranged lies?

This isn't even a debate anymore, Pakistan was always intended to be an Islamic Republic. If you want to discuss the rights and responsibilities of Muslims and non-Muslims that's another discussion.

I mean the fact that Jinnah was the head of the MUSLIM League, not the Justice League or Secular League, should have been indicative of that.

Pakistan had many men who were absolutely necessary for the founding of the nation.

One such man is Allama Iqbal who made it clear through the Allahabad Address:

“India is a continent of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions [...] Personally, I would like to see thePunjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.”​

Sir Muhammad Iqbal 29 December 1930​

Chaudhary Rehmat Ali is another necessary figure who wrote “Now or Never: Are we to perish or live forever?” published in 1933 that reconfirmed Iqbal and the Muslim League stance stating:

“all those five Provinces [Punjab, NWFP, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan] should have a separate Federation of their own outside India... we are entitled to ask our delegates for what purpose we are being pressed to sacrifice our nationality [Pakistan] and to submit ourselves and our posterity to non-Muslim domination.​

https://www.indiaofthepast.org/images/pdf/1930s/now_or_never.pdf

​

After joining the Muslim League it was Jinnah who put the final nail in the coffin confirming the two nation theory stating:

"It is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality... Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions."​

Mohammed Ali Jinnah 23 March 1940​

We have a host of speeches made by Jinnah where he makes it very clear that Pakistan would be an “Islamic State” based on the principles of “Islamic Socialism not other -isms”, made by Muslims for Muslims in which the laws would “[not] be in conflict with Shariat Laws”.

So what alternate history are you reading?

Even those people who use Bangladeh's independence totally discount the words of guys like Yuri Bezmenov's interview from the 80s:

There's a lot more I can discuss on this topic but please just stop with the lies.

Dont bother with him mate, these leeches know very well the lies they spin, they mould a few words said by Jinnah out of context to build there narrrative yet ignore tons of policy speeches by Jinnah, aspriring Pakistan to be an Islamic state which it became by the grace of Allah. These liberal leeches are the most filthy of hypocrites.