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MANILA - A proposal by Japan's military to join the United States in maritime air patrols in the South China Sea could prompt Tokyo to ask the Philippines for access to air bases, a Reuters report said Wednesday.

The report said Japan's military is considering joining the US in maritime air patrols in the South China Sea in response to China's increasingly assertive pursuit of territorial claims, according to a Japanese and a US source familiar with the discussions.

The deliberations came as Japan and the United States unveiled new defense guidelines during a visit to Washington by Japanese Prime Minster Shinzo Abe, reflecting his plans for Japan to take on a wider security role beyond the direct defense of its home islands.

While no concrete plans had yet been formulated, Japan could join US patrols in the South China Sea, or operate patrols in rotation from the Japanese island of Okinawa on the edge of the East China Sea, the Japanese source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

So far the discussion is within the Japanese military, but any move to begin patrols would need civilian approval.

Japanese air patrols in an area where China is pushing disputed territorial claims, including though a massive program of land reclamation, would risk antagonizing Beijing.

But defense officials in Tokyo worry that doing nothing would allow China to eventually impose its authority over a region through which $5 trillion of sea-borne trade passes ever year - much of it heading to and from Japan.

"We have to show China that it doesn't own the sea," said the Japanese source.

FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION

A US military source told Reuters the decision to begin flights in the South China Sea could prompt Tokyo to ask the Philippines for access to air bases under disaster relief training and other joint training exercises. This would give Japanese aircraft added range to stay out on patrol longer, he said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

A senior Philippine military source said such access would not currently be possible, because Manila does not have any military co-operation agreement with Tokyo similar to the pact it has with Washington, which allows US ships to use its bases to re-fuel, re-supply and make emergency repairs.

But Philippine President Benigno Aquino III, one of the most vocal regional critics of China's reclamation program, is due to meet Abe in Tokyo in June, when the South China Sea issue is certain to be discussed.

U.S. President Barack Obama told reporters after talks with Abe on Tuesday that the two countries shared concerns about China's reclamation and construction activities in the South China Sea and were "united in our commitment to freedom of navigation and respect for international law".

He said the new defense guidelines meant U.S. and Japanese forces would be more flexible, and that Japan would "take on greater roles and responsibilities in the Asia-Pacific".

Neither he nor Abe detailed what those roles might be.

Japanese Defense Minister Gen Nakatani and Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida dodged questions about the possibility of joint patrolling of Asian sea lanes when pressed at a news conference with U.S. counterparts on Monday, saying legislation in Japan had still to be worked out and regional countries consulted.

Speaking at a daily briefing in Beijing on Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the United States and Japan were "not involved in the South China Sea issue" and should not do anything to "complicate the situation".

REGIONAL COUNTERWEIGHT

The United States has a squadron of Lockheed Martin P-3 Orion patrol planes and a squadron of new Boeing P-8 Poseidon sub-hunting aircraft in the region, six of which are stationed in Okinawa.

Japan operates a fleet of 70 P-3s in the seas around Japan and is due to deploy about 20 new Kawasaki Heavy P-1 patrol aircraft with twice the range of the older Orions over the next five years.

In an interview in January, Admiral Robert Thomas, commander of the U.S. Seventh Fleet, told Reuters that Washington would welcome Japanese air patrols in the South China Sea, because their presence would provide a stabilizing counterweight to a growing fleet of Chinese fishing and naval vessels.

Thomas's comment, which was criticized by the Chinese government, was quietly welcomed by some Japanese defense officials. It helped "break down a psychological barrier" that had made discussion about possible operations in the South China Sea a taboo, a Japanese defense ministry source told Reuters.

A spokesperson for the U.S. State Department said it was "not aware of any official plans or proposals for Japan to patrol the South China Sea" but welcomed "a more active role for Japan in ensuring stability and security in East Asia and globally, including in addressing maritime security challenges".

A senior U.S. defense official said last week details of future activities would have to be worked out as Japan completed domestic legislation needed to expand the role of its defense forces as it reinterprets the limits of its pacifist post-war constitution.

China claims about 90 percent of the 3.5 million sq km (1.35 million sq mile) South China Sea. The Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei and Vietnam also claim large parts.

At a regional summit in Malaysia on Monday the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) released their most critical statement yet of China's building of man-made islands on disputed reefs, which Washington and Tokyo worry will become military bases to police the area.




Japan to seek access to PH military bases? | ABS-CBN News
 
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JMSDF and the Philippine Navy will be working closely together. :)




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In the name of Peace, Prosperity and Universal Japanese-Filipino Brotherhood. :)
 
I never get these articles, in order for China to take our place on the world stage, we would have to go through the US and possibly Japan either way, so this really doesn't change anything.

We be in a conflict, be it military or otherwise, sooner or later, it's unavoidable.
 
The Wings of the Japanese Self Defense Force --- Unfurled

JMSDF and the Philippine Navy will be working closely together. :)
In the name of Peace, Prosperity and Universal Japanese-Filipino Brotherhood. :)

The next people to join this alliance should be Spanish Inquisitors.

How many Filipino civilians were massacred by Japanese and Americans again? If China wants to cut off trade in the SCS, they can do it. The islands don't change anything. You're asking for a conflict for what, exactly?
 
MANILA - A proposal by Japan's military to join the United States in maritime air patrols in the South China Sea could prompt Tokyo to ask the Philippines for access to air bases, a Reuters report said Wednesday.

The report said Japan's military is considering joining the US in maritime air patrols in the South China Sea in response to China's increasingly assertive pursuit of territorial claims, according to a Japanese and a US source familiar with the discussions.

The deliberations came as Japan and the United States unveiled new defense guidelines during a visit to Washington by Japanese Prime Minster Shinzo Abe, reflecting his plans for Japan to take on a wider security role beyond the direct defense of its home islands.

While no concrete plans had yet been formulated, Japan could join US patrols in the South China Sea, or operate patrols in rotation from the Japanese island of Okinawa on the edge of the East China Sea, the Japanese source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

So far the discussion is within the Japanese military, but any move to begin patrols would need civilian approval.

Japanese air patrols in an area where China is pushing disputed territorial claims, including though a massive program of land reclamation, would risk antagonizing Beijing.

But defense officials in Tokyo worry that doing nothing would allow China to eventually impose its authority over a region through which $5 trillion of sea-borne trade passes ever year - much of it heading to and from Japan.

"We have to show China that it doesn't own the sea," said the Japanese source.

FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION

A US military source told Reuters the decision to begin flights in the South China Sea could prompt Tokyo to ask the Philippines for access to air bases under disaster relief training and other joint training exercises. This would give Japanese aircraft added range to stay out on patrol longer, he said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

A senior Philippine military source said such access would not currently be possible, because Manila does not have any military co-operation agreement with Tokyo similar to the pact it has with Washington, which allows US ships to use its bases to re-fuel, re-supply and make emergency repairs.

But Philippine President Benigno Aquino III, one of the most vocal regional critics of China's reclamation program, is due to meet Abe in Tokyo in June, when the South China Sea issue is certain to be discussed.

U.S. President Barack Obama told reporters after talks with Abe on Tuesday that the two countries shared concerns about China's reclamation and construction activities in the South China Sea and were "united in our commitment to freedom of navigation and respect for international law".

He said the new defense guidelines meant U.S. and Japanese forces would be more flexible, and that Japan would "take on greater roles and responsibilities in the Asia-Pacific".

Neither he nor Abe detailed what those roles might be.

Japanese Defense Minister Gen Nakatani and Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida dodged questions about the possibility of joint patrolling of Asian sea lanes when pressed at a news conference with U.S. counterparts on Monday, saying legislation in Japan had still to be worked out and regional countries consulted.

Speaking at a daily briefing in Beijing on Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the United States and Japan were "not involved in the South China Sea issue" and should not do anything to "complicate the situation".

REGIONAL COUNTERWEIGHT

The United States has a squadron of Lockheed Martin P-3 Orion patrol planes and a squadron of new Boeing P-8 Poseidon sub-hunting aircraft in the region, six of which are stationed in Okinawa.

Japan operates a fleet of 70 P-3s in the seas around Japan and is due to deploy about 20 new Kawasaki Heavy P-1 patrol aircraft with twice the range of the older Orions over the next five years.

In an interview in January, Admiral Robert Thomas, commander of the U.S. Seventh Fleet, told Reuters that Washington would welcome Japanese air patrols in the South China Sea, because their presence would provide a stabilizing counterweight to a growing fleet of Chinese fishing and naval vessels.

Thomas's comment, which was criticized by the Chinese government, was quietly welcomed by some Japanese defense officials. It helped "break down a psychological barrier" that had made discussion about possible operations in the South China Sea a taboo, a Japanese defense ministry source told Reuters.

A spokesperson for the U.S. State Department said it was "not aware of any official plans or proposals for Japan to patrol the South China Sea" but welcomed "a more active role for Japan in ensuring stability and security in East Asia and globally, including in addressing maritime security challenges".

A senior U.S. defense official said last week details of future activities would have to be worked out as Japan completed domestic legislation needed to expand the role of its defense forces as it reinterprets the limits of its pacifist post-war constitution.

China claims about 90 percent of the 3.5 million sq km (1.35 million sq mile) South China Sea. The Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei and Vietnam also claim large parts.

At a regional summit in Malaysia on Monday the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) released their most critical statement yet of China's building of man-made islands on disputed reefs, which Washington and Tokyo worry will become military bases to police the area.




Japan to seek access to PH military bases? | ABS-CBN News
"COULD" and was sensationalized as real and comfirmed. :lol:
 
Guys hold the phone its just defense cooperation seriously you chincoms are so insecure
 
The Wings of the Japanese Self Defense Force --- Unfurled




1053739.jpg





sailors-in-formation.jpg

JMSDF and the Philippine Navy will be working closely together. :)




604176_817510744977312_1567127575287803101_n.jpg

In the name of Peace, Prosperity and Universal Japanese-Filipino Brotherhood. :)

Rename JSDF already
 
Rename JSDF already


What do you suggest it to be renamed as ?

I never get these articles, in order for China to take our place on the world stage, we would have to go through the US and possibly Japan either way, so this really doesn't change anything.

We be in a conflict, be it military or otherwise, sooner or later, it's unavoidable.


lol.

conflict?

Japan possibly gaining access to Philippines' Subic Naval Base --- and you equate this with possible war / conflict with China?

It does not equate.
 
What do you suggest it to be renamed as ?




lol.

conflict?

Japan possibly gaining access to Philippines' Subic Naval Base --- and you equate this with possible war / conflict with China?

It does not equate.

Well how about just Japanese Navy
 
How many Filipino civilians were massacred by Japanese and Americans again? If China wants to cut off trade in the SCS, they can do it. The islands don't change anything. You're asking for a conflict for what, exactly?


There is no congruence in your bringing up historical travesties. Japan and Philippines have a robust and transformational relationship that is inclusive in all parameters -- political, economic, environmental, cultural, defense. Japan and Philippines have transcended historical mistakes. This is what makes our partnership truly amazing.

:)
 
lol.

conflict?

Japan possibly gaining access to Philippines' Subic Naval Base --- and you equate this with possible war / conflict with China?

It does not equate.

I didn't equate anything, hence my statement. It would be foolish to assume Japan and the US would welcome China's rise and give us the influence we deserve based on our economic, and military power.

I also specifically mentioned that it may not be armed conflict, but it will be something.

The main point is articles like these always use the tired phrase of it may raise tension, or something like that, when these moves are nothing significant in the grand schemes of things.
 
Well we have you people thank for that

There is no congruence in your bringing up historical travesties. Japan and Philippines have a robust and transformational relationship that is inclusive in all parameters -- political, economic, environmental, cultural, defense. Japan and Philippines have transcended historical mistakes. This is what makes our partnership truly amazing.

:)

He think we should be like them be bitter like them but in our case is we know our history but that will not stop us for pursuing a relationships with our former enemies and we have great relationships with them. The chinese are threat to us so that too if factor and he does not know but after the war Japan help us with our economic development since and a lot of Japanese calls the Philippines their second home so there if the imperial chincoms wants to be bitter they can but we filipinos in the forum simply dont care about their bitternes but our culture dictates we should be a friendly people in peace and show no quarter in war
 
I didn't equate anything, hence my statement. It would be foolish to assume Japan and the US would welcome China's rise and give us the influence we deserve based on our economic, and military power.

I also specifically mentioned that it may not be armed conflict, but it will be something.

The main point is articles like these always use the tired phrase of it may raise tension, or something like that, when these moves are nothing significant in the grand schemes of things.


What is happening, my friend, is that Japan is building up its regional alliances and security partnerships. We are building security apparatus with the Philippines, Indonesia, Viet Nam, Australia, New Zealand, India. Not including Japan's global alliance with the United States and NATO.

Japan is deploying its forces , and has been deployed in some parts of the world for quite sime time. For example, Japan has a forward permanent military base in Djibouti , Africa. When the Philippine Senate ratifies Japanese request to access to military bases in the Philippines -- that means that the JSDF's branches --- the JGSDF, JASDF, JMSDF will have access to the military bases in Philippines --- the icing on the cake is Subic Naval Base -- which is a deep sea port and can even house our carriers, or destroyers.

A multi polar world, yes? Japan is working on that said multipolar axis.

A healthy development.

a lot of Japanese calls the Philippines their second home so there if the imperial chincoms wants to be bitter they can but we filipinos in the forum simply dont care about their bitter nice.


Siyempre, amigo. Maraming na maraming mga Hapon nan dyan sa Pilipinas. More than 150,000 Japanese nationals call Philippines their home. We are island neighbors, afterall.

Anyways, here's an example of how Japan and Philippines are converging. Here is a Japanese singer (100% Japanese) named Yokugawa Aisaku who sings in fluent Tagalog , speaks fluent Tagalog. He sings the song "Ikaw Pa Rin" :)


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