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A milestone at Garden Reach; GRSE places India in warship exporters’ club

Nah the the next version of the frigate p17a will be the best technically. Its designed to have ultra clean deck....
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Looks are one thing but the P-15Bs will be larger and more capable than the P-17A frigates and anyway there shouldn't be much in terms of looks, both will be improved and sleeker versions of their predecessor class.

Good start, but if you want to attract customers like VN, you may have to offer Kolkota-class to them, or they may choose US/Russia warships.
You think Vietnam can afford $1 billion USD 8,000 tonne destroyers? There are only a few nations in the world that can afford such beasts and Vietnam isn't one of them mate.

Im talking about P-15B, next gen Kolkatas in design. It doesnt have a name yet either.
Isn't the P-15B class going to be called the Bengaluru class?

The Karmota, its probably the best ship yet designed and developed in india
This title really ought to belong to the P-17/A, P-15A/B or the IAC-1, the Karmota is a good ship for what it is but India has designed and made FAR more capable and deadly warships.
 
This title really ought to belong to the P-17/A, P-15A/B or the IAC-1, the Karmota is a good ship for what it is but India has designed and made FAR more capable and deadly warships.

neither the P17a nor P15b been laid let alone launched, the IAC-1 is still in dock getting her super structure. So none of these can claim the title, Kamotra on the other hand is the most complete "indian" ship in the fleet.

It is also the most likely to be marketable, either as is a ASW corvete or reconfigured as a multi role frigate...etc.
 
So none of these can claim the title, Kamotra on the other hand is the most complete "indian" ship in the fleet.
What about the P-15A or P-17 then? The Kamotra is an ASW Corvette, they are more complete than Destroyers and Frigates?

neither the P17a nor P15b been laid
The Keel of the first P-15B was laid in October 2013.
 
neither the P17a nor P15b been laid let alone launched, the IAC-1 is still in dock getting her super structure. So none of these can claim the title, Kamotra on the other hand is the most complete "indian" ship in the fleet.

It is also the most likely to be marketable, either as is a ASW corvete or reconfigured as a multi role frigate...etc.
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What the hell is this?
 
What about the P-15A or P-17 then? The Kamotra is an ASW Corvette, they are more complete than Destroyers and Frigates?


The Keel of the first P-15B was laid in October 2013.

The jist of this thread is about indian naval exports, P15/P17 is way too expensive for most navies. Kamotra in my view has that right mix of latest tech and potential price point to sell well if your yards are able to market it.
 
The jist of this thread is about indian naval exports, P15/P17 is way too expensive for most navies. Kamotra in my view has that right mix of latest tech and potential price point to sell well if your yards are able to market it.

Yes, to that extend we all will more or less agree.

But to call Kamorta the best we have made would be contested. Of course it is one of the best we have made indeed, has given us a lot in terms of stealth technology and indigenisation.
 
The jist of this thread is about indian naval exports, P15/P17 is way too expensive for most navies. Kamotra in my view has that right mix of latest tech and potential price point to sell well if your yards are able to market it.
Ah, see that changes things, now that is a reasonable statement to make. Before you were omitting the "exportable" part to best Indian warship design.

I've said above that the P-17/P-15A are not viable export products, very few navies can afford $1 billion USD frigates/destroyers and the few that can will produce them for themselves. There is almost no market for such huge vessels in the export domain.
 
The jist of this thread is about indian naval exports, P15/P17 is way too expensive for most navies. Kamotra in my view has that right mix of latest tech and potential price point to sell well if your yards are able to market it.

Yes, and no one even MoD, MDL or IN interested in getting foreign orders for P17A or P15B. Firstly, MDL need to complete Indian orders, they are already overbooked.

And to make Kamotra exportable as frigate, it require AShM and a CODAG engine.
 
Yes, and no one even MoD, MDL or IN interested in getting foreign orders for P17A or P15B. Firstly, MDL need to complete Indian orders, they are already overbooked.

And to make Kamotra exportable as frigate, it require AShM and a CODAG engine.

Yup thats why i say the Kamotra is the best well in context of this thread at least. The design is easily adaptable for a lot of navies, and with a right mix it can be easily marketed, though the PSUs aren't that great at sales.
 
Yup thats why i say the Kamotra is the best well in context of this thread at least. The design is easily adaptable for a lot of navies, and with a right mix it can be easily marketed, though the PSUs aren't that great at sales.
Yes, the design of Kamotra is perfect for making a low cost frigate and for getting foreign order. But dont know GRSE able to add BrahMos and LM2500 in Kamotra.
 
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