A Deadly Lesson: What the T-90 can teach the US

[SipahSalar]

@500 is right.The T 34 was nothing like those extra ordinary beasts of war as they are told to be,it had more to do with communist propaganda than anything else and people,including those self proclaimed military experts and war historians still falling for it and the public following suit!!In fact the T 34 was a below average tank with shitty transmission and suspension and everything else which suffered frequent break downs.
There is more-for the American or German tanks,if their tanks were penetrated and suffered ammunition cook off,those who could make it out alive,could at least take cover underneath the tank because the propellants would deflagrate but would not blast.But is case of Soviets tanks,the ammo would explode and it was advised that under no circumstances,anyone would go near a burning Soviet tank,let alone take cover behind them.The reason why the T 34 rose to such fame was because the Germans including the legendary Heinz Guderian had mistaken the Soviet KVs as T 34s.The KVs were much better armord and quite naturally could deflect the hits from the Panzer IVs.

If you do not believe me,then find this book "T 34 Mythical Weapon" authored by a Polish military historian named Robert Michulec and you will get to know about this machine everything you need.

Ther argument with 500 was over US concept of Armored warfare in WW2 rather than T-34.
Unknown writers often try to sell their books by writing controversial topics. What you are suggesting is ridiculous. That you can not take cover beneath a T-34 that has been taken out but you can if its a Sherman so Sherman is the better tank. Everything the T-34 did, the following tanks copied. It was the first true incarnation of the modern Main Battle Tank.

 

[Omega007]

Ther argument with 500 was over US concept of Armored warfare in WW2 rather than T-34.
Unknown writers often try to sell their books by writing controversial topics. What you are suggesting is ridiculous. That you can not take cover beneath a T-34 that has been taken out but you can if its a Sherman so Sherman is the better tank. Everything the T-34 did, the following tanks copied. It was the first true incarnation of the modern Main Battle Tank.

That was just a single issue among many others and it was not just restricted to the T 34 alone.It was a big problem with propellants used by the Soviets in all their tanks.And I never said that T 34 was inferior for this one single reason only!!It was marred with a plethora of issues but wait...............why am I wasting my time with a know all be all according to whom,everyone except himself is "trying to sell something"??!!

 

[SipahSalar]

That was just a single issue among many others and it was not just restricted to the T 34 alone.

Yet you chose to mention the most comedic one.

why am I wasting my time with a know all be all according to whom,everyone except himself is "trying to sell something"??!!

I'm sorry, care to jog my memory?

 

[Omega007]

Yet you chose to mention the most comedic one.

I'm sorry, care to jog my memory?

What comedic you effing idiot??!!It is a fact - a damn serious one!!Now you do not know and I don't expect a guy like you to know either,doesn't make it comedic or something.Try to read a few real books instead of basing your 'knowledge' on those fake propaganda videos and some dumb web articles.I could specify some if you want to.

And you seem to have been suffering from short term memory loss,here is something to 'jog your memory' - "Unknown writers often try to sell their books by writing controversial topics".

 

[SipahSalar]

What comedic you effing idiot??!!It is a fact - a damn serious one!!Now you do not know and I don't expect a guy like you to know either,doesn't make it comedic or something.Try to read a few real books instead of basing your 'knowledge' on those fake propaganda videos and some dumb web articles.I could specify some if you want to.

And you seem to have been suffering from short term memory loss,here is something to 'jog your memory' - "Unknown writers often try to sell their books by writing controversial topics".

You draw drastic conclusions from something minor. I don't think "everyone" is trying to sell something. I just mentioned the comedic nature of the advantage you mentioned Sherman had over T-34. Its nothing personal and there is no need to take offense. And I don't see these "propaganda" videos. T-34 was a globally appreciated tank, even by its adversaries in Germany. Just because some Pole could hide his *** under a burning Sherman doesn't mean much. And mind you, Shermans were a lot more likely to blow up than the T-34. They weren't called "Tommy Cookers" for nothing.

 

[Omega007]

You draw drastic conclusions from something minor. I don't think "everyone" is trying to sell something. I just mentioned the comedic nature of the advantage you mentioned Sherman had over T-34. Its nothing personal and there is no need to take offense. And I don't see these "propaganda" videos. T-34 was a globally appreciated tank, even by its adversaries in Germany. Just because some Pole could hide his *** under a burning Sherman doesn't mean much. And mind you, Shermans were a lot more likely to blow up than the T-34. They weren't called "Tommy Cookers" for nothing.

Then I do not have anything else to discuss with such an ignorant fool like yourself Mr Know all.You can remain happy with your 'superior knowledge' than some Pole.

 

[SipahSalar]

Then I do not have anything else to discuss with such an ignorant fool like yourself Mr Know all.You can remain happy with your 'superior knowledge' than some Pole.

Whatever floats your boat. A piece of advice on english language though: When you use quotation marks, it shows that someone has made that exact statement. So nowhere have I said "Superior Knowledge" as you put it in quotation marks. Be glad you learnt something new today.

 

[LeGenD]

The article author forgot about following cost-effective Tank killers in US military inventory:-

American anti-tank weapon systems exist in many forms. Holistically, US military is an extremely potent force to contend with and have an answer for all kinds of threats on the ground.

Abrams series MBT are not designed as cost-effective solutions, they are designed to be frontline war machines that can take lot of punishment, pack overwhelming firepower to defeat all kinds of threats on the ground, and penetrate deep into the enemy lines or formations without support from other military assets.

Strategically, it doesn't makes sense to compare Russian T-90 series MBT and its variants with American Abrams series MBT because both of these Tank designs are based on different combat philosophies. The former are cost-effective designs with a balanced approach to protection, mobility and firepower while the latter are high cost designs that are literally mobile fortresses designed to stretch the limits of balance between firepower, protection and mobility.