96pc Samsung sets assembled locally

[rishav]

Bangladesh is way ahead of India , in terms of manufacturing . Good going bd

 

[Type59]

Bangladesh need to put tariffs on indian imports, in effort to support domestic brands.

 

[Gibbs]

The above is good for Bangladesh. However,
A philosophical tip:you dont celebrate small things like this if you want your country to succeed because you will get satisfied too easily. Acheive in so many fields that success is not a big deal anymore. Thats when your country will really reap the benefits.

Plus the OP is famous for crying to Moderators about trolling done by Indians and Pakistani's in this sub forum, Often deserved given hilarious posts.. But check out his unwarranted provocation in the post #2

What a whinging sook

 

[UKBengali]

Yes this is exactly my viewpoint. Seperation of Bangladesh is a blessing in disguise. It would have provided more surface area for india to bother us. Also Bengali people are culturally different enough to be a different country.
Funfact: If Pakistan had not done the wrong doings it did and treated everyone equally then today you would have been ruled most certainly by West Pakistan. As now Bengalis are minority as compared to west Pakistan.

No really dude.

BD would have made a pact with one of the smaller provinces of Pakistan to keep it's dominance.

 

[SirHatesALot]

BD is now going to manufacture newest processors for mobiles called snaptiger420
Congratulations

 

[bluesky]

The credit of assembling handphone sets goes to Samsung. So, thank you Samsung.

 

[loanranger]

No really dude.

BD would have made a pact with one of the smaller provinces of Pakistan to keep it's dominance.

Possible you never know what could have happened but I believe what ever happened it was for the best. It certainly put Pakistans priorities right and we became a nuclear power. We never compromise on our sovereignity. We all know what the relation between India and Bangladesh is...its not one of mutual respect to say the least

Plus the OP is famous for crying to Moderators about trolling done by Indians and Pakistani's in this sub forum, Often deserved given hilarious posts.. But check out his unwarranted provocation in the post #2

What a whinging sook

Ikr....I am always tempted to troll with 100pc of my ability when I see idiotic self gloating stuff but then I feel bad for them and only do 20 pc trolling just to make sure no feelings are hurt.After all they left any self pride they had with Pakistan in 1971

 

[Bilal9]

BD is now going to manufacture newest processors for mobiles called snaptiger420 Congratulations

This is at least twenty years away. But Insha-Allah this will be done at some point. What we end up calling it is local preference.

 

[Bilal9]

LOL why its even a news? This is so silly...why BD ppl are so emotional and get excited about every small things.

This is not 'small things' @mmr.

Take it from someone closely involved with industrial (especially electronics manufacturing) operations in the US - it is a fairly large step in our annal of progress.

Bangladesh is no longer dependent on outside sources (Chinese or otherwise) for manufacturing cellphone motherboards. This expertise and the associated machinery is very expensive (total investment around 100 crore initially).

This means we can design and build our own hardware and software designs for cellphones and export them all over the world (including EMEA markets but also APAC markets at some point) and compete with ALL global cellphone suppliers. Walton and Fair Electronics are both investing in these ventures because that is the long term plan. With the lowest labor rate, half that of India, we can supply goods at unbeatable price points globally.

Indian market local cellphone suppliers have only one objective - supplying the very large local market. They hardly care about exports. So they can depend on importing very low quality cellphone motherboards made in China targeted for kanjoosi price-sensitive buyers in India. They would rather not invest in indigenous motherboard design and manufacture.

But as a small country (unlike India)- we have to depend on export-led growth, there is no alternative. This is how small nations with no internal resources like Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand and Malaysia developed. Bangladesh is following the same model.

I don't think you are mature enough for me to get personal with you. I am not a commoner of south asia so just leave it there.

Anyways Samsung invested just 5000 crore in plant in india, so i hope you can get an idea of where do indians stand and what is the place of bangladesh in mobile "manufacturing". But that doesn't mean that india has aced the smart phone making. These things take a lot of effort in time, money, and industrial acumen which is not the game of third world countries.

Whatever floats your boat, if being a non-commoner makes you happy, then so be it.

I get the impression you are not that familiar with how cellphones are manufactured, though you are trying to argue the point. It is okay to admit it, no shame in it. I have already outlined in my other post the difference between 'assembly' and 'manufacturing' in this specific scenario. You won't find those definitions in a dictionary like you stated.

However thesaurus and grammar sources do say that you should not preferably use double-quotes to mention industrial terms (like you have used for "manufacturing"), only someone's statements. For terms - single quotes should be used.

India is a huge market (much larger than Bangladesh), 5000 crore sounds about right for a cellphone 'assembly' plant. But you missed the important point. No Indian cellphone manufacturer invested that type of money (100 crores even) to provide local value addition (meaning capability addition of local motherboard design/manufacture from discrete SMD components), which is indicative of the general nature of business in India, with fly-by-night operations being the majority norm.

This is known the world over. Lowest investments for Indian manufacturing, with high margins when selling locally, to cheat the Indian customer. Also de-featuring overseas products and cheapening them (the term is 'Indianization'). Ergo - Indian customers end up buying overseas for better products, if they can get away with it.

Indian businessmen generally care only about turning a fast buck, not about adding more value locally, in their mostly closed market (although termed open).

By the way - when Bangladesh started manufacturing garments for export in the mid-seventies, did we falter or hesitate because we didn't have, in your words "time, money, and industrial acumen". Did China hesitate likewise in the early 2000's when they started cellphone manufacturing? Should we hesitate now??

"Time, money, and industrial acumen" are not exclusive to first world countries.

Chalta hai attitude is however, endemic to Indian mentality.

Obviously - you are not in the field of entrepreneurship or overseas exports, otherwise you would not say these things.

Bangladesh need to put tariffs on indian imports, in effort to support domestic brands.

India has so far been open to increasing Bangladesh exports. Bangladesh garments exports to India exceeded a Billion dollars recently and there is a lot more scope there to even the keel. Bilateral trade is some eight to nine Billion officially with amount heavily in their favor.

Other things being fair, Indians cannot compete with Bangladeshi manufacturing, our labor rate in most sectors is half of theirs, especially garments sector. Their apparel folks have been whining and running to New Delhi to raise tariff barriers, but basic thing is that, their manufacturing is not well organized in garments sector, with small sweatshops and high labor rates being the norm.

In Bangladesh Chinese imports are cheaper and generally better quality than Indian items, so things will be taken care of naturally (especially capital goods), NTB's are not really needed immediately, maybe later at some point.

 

[Chhatrapati]

So, assembling phones, I wonder what's that 4 pc not assembled? Board and Processor?

 

[Bilal9]

The above is good for Bangladesh. However,
A philosophical tip:you dont celebrate small things like this if you want your country to succeed because you will get satisfied too easily. Acheive in so many fields that success is not a big deal anymore. Thats when your country will really reap the benefits.

With all due respect - you are completely unaware of industrial operations in cellphone manufacturing and what this means. Please read my other posts.

 

[bluesky]

Bangladesh need to put tariffs on indian imports, in effort to support domestic brands.

No, there should be free trade and it is people's choice which brand they would buy. Samsung product should be able to become people's choice if the quality is good and then cheaper as these are being assembled locally.

On the other hand, India will happily accept your suggestion to impose Tariff if the assembled-in-BD products enter the Indian market. But, BD just cannot do what India can.

 

[Bilal9]

So, assembling phones, I wonder what's that 4 pc not assembled? Board and Processor?

Processor always comes from Qualcomm for high quality phones ('Snapdragon' is a common one from Qualcomm USA). In China and Taiwan - efforts are being made to manufacture processors locally, but it is tough.

FABrication Facilities ('FABs') for processors like this is expensive investment which only manufacturers like Qualcomm (US), Huawei (China) and Samsung (Korea) tend to make, the latter two for their own consumption in their cheaper local phones.

Processors for cellphones (the main chip on a cellphone motherboard) are called System-on-Chip (SoC). This means that several processor types are lasered into a single piece of silicon. Because of small space in the Cellphone motherboard, one single chip processor has to have many processing features all within itself. An SoC consists of CPU, GPU, LTE modem, multimedia processor, security, signal processor, AI accelerator and often also units for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. This variety of features communicate with other hardware (micro USB ports, SIM ports, microphones, cameras) on the cellphone motherboard and make the features in a cellphone possible.

In India (and also, Pakistan), most of the phones assembled consist of ready-made completed cellphone motherboards from China. All that is added in India is the outer casing (body) and the Indian logo. Value addition in this manner is low for Indian brands.

In Bangladesh cellphone motherboards are now factory-made from SMT-components-on-tape (capacitors, resistors, on-board connectors, board-mounted cameras) fed to a pick and place mechanism which places them in the exact place in the motherboard, then the entire motherboard is completed using wave-soldering.

Bangladesh will no longer depend on Chinese sources for motherboards, while India has to (AFAIK).

Walton already has this indigenous motherboard design/manufacture capability while Samsung will now bring it in-house locally (the subject of this thread).

 

[Chhatrapati]

Processor always comes from Qualcomm for high quality phones ('Snapdragon' is a common one from Qualcomm USA). In China and Taiwan - efforts are being made to manufacture processors locally, but it is tough.

FABrication Facilities ('FABs') for processors like this is expensive investment which only manufacturers like Qualcomm (US), Huawei (China) and Samsung (Korea) tend to make, the latter two for their own consumption in their cheaper local phones.

Processors for cellphones (the main chip on a cellphone motherboard) are called System-on-Chip (SoC). This means that several processor types are lasered into a single piece of silicon. Because of small space in the Cellphone motherboard, one single chip processor has to have many processing features all within itself. An SoC consists of CPU, GPU, LTE modem, multimedia processor, security, signal processor, AI accelerator and often also units for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. This variety of features communicate with other hardware (micro USB ports, SIM ports, microphones, cameras) on the cellphone motherboard and make the features in a cellphone possible.

In India (and also, Pakistan), most of the phones assembled consist of ready-made completed cellphone motherboards from China. All that is added in India is the outer casing (body) and the Indian logo. Value addition in this manner is low for Indian brands.

In Bangladesh cellphone motherboards are now factory-made from SMT-components-on-tape (capacitors, resistors, on-board connectors, board-mounted cameras) fed to a pick and place mechanism which places them in the exact place in the motherboard, then the entire motherboard is completed using wave-soldering.

Bangladesh will no longer depend on Chinese sources for motherboards, while India has to (AFAIK).

Walton already has this indigenous motherboard design/manufacture capability while Samsung will now bring it in-house locally (the subject of this thread).

That's what assembling is. You think these assemblers import the entire motherboard? No. They import resistors, capacitors then etch the copper. Even Bangladesh is doing the same.

What you claim BD starts doing is what Samsung has been doing in India more than a decade. It is making PCBs.
Your manufacturing of smartphones is as same as Xiaomi making phones in India. At least they manufacture the PCBs in India.

 

[Bilal9]

That's what assembling is. You think these assemblers import the entire motherboard? No. They import resistors, capacitors then etch the copper. Even Bangladesh is doing the same.

What you claim BD starts doing is what Samsung has been doing in India more than a decade. It is making PCBs.
Your manufacturing of smartphones is as same as Xiaomi making phones in India. At least they manufacture the PCBs in India.

In India assemblers are importing entire motherboard. It takes upwards of 100 crore to invest in PCB manufacturing.

Prove me otherwise. My information would be wrong in that case.

This is like Deja Vu. We discussed this over two years ago. India did not have cellphone PCB manufacturing at that time.