90-yr-old Dalit man burnt alive for trying to enter temple

[Whazzup]

#Kashmir ?

UP , Punjab , Haryana etc etc not Kashmir.

 

[ranjeet]

UP , Punjab , Haryana etc etc not Kashmir.

kya hai ye ... hain ?

 

[Whazzup]

kya hai ye ... hain ?

Oh I never told u my address right? ......in that case I'm safe

 

[The_Showstopper]

Might be done to avoid a situation like this one ...

Or may be to avoid situation like this....

I think it is tank bund , Hyderabad ,telengana

No its not.... There's no Mahavir statue on that road

@jamahir

 

[OTTOMAN]

Worst place to live in...Islamic radicals infested everywhere....Now does it make you happy??? ENjoy then...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1098356693538000

I hope tomorrow, I will not read news that express news is bombed!

UP , Punjab , Haryana etc etc not Kashmir.

No.... Punjab is clean.

 

[Kaniska]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1098356693538000

I hope tomorrow, I will not read news that express news is bombed!



No.... Punjab is clean.

He..he..i can not stop myself laughing...Keep it up with your hate for my beloved PM...I really enjoy when you guys hate him...

 

[Winchester]

He visits my house only to mock me.As if his son won a great battle of panipat.

I am sorry but this is hilarious !

 

[Thorough Pro]

I don't understand why do Dalits follow the religion in which they can't even enter the place of prayer? where they get killed even for trying that? what does that tell about the religion whose followers do that to fellow humans who come there (or get killed trying to come there) to pray?

Dalits should embrace Islam, see the equality and respect this religion gives them, and best of all there is no segregation/discrimination against anyone, once you enter the mosque everyone will embrace you regardless of your name, skin colour, social status, or whatever. Come embrace the true religion, the truth, the only truth.

A 90-year-old Dalit man died after he was brutally attacked with an axe and set on fire for trying to enter a temple at Hamirpur in Uttar Pradesh, police said on Friday.

The victim, identified as Chimma, had gone to the Maidani Baba temple with his wife, son Durjan and brother on Wednesday evening. He was stopped from entering the temple by a man named Sanjay Tiwari.

When Chimma did not relent, Tiwari allegedly attacked him with an axe and then set him on fire.

The incident took place in the presence of several other worshippers in Bilgaon, a village on the boundary between Hamirpur and Jalaun districts located 140km from Kanpur.

Police said Tiwari had been arrested after he was nabbed by other people present in the area. They said he was drunk at the time of the incident.

An eyewitness said Tiwari had asked Chimma and several others not to enter the temple but they refused.

He said Tiwari became furious and attacked the Dalit man with an axe. While Chimma’s wife screamed for help, Tiwari doused the elderly man with kerosene and set him afire, the eyewitness said.

Two aides of Tiwari, who were named in the FIR filed by police, are on the run, said Mukesh Aghi, president of the US-Indian Business Council.

90-yr-old Dalit man burnt alive for trying to enter temple in UP | india | Hindustan Times

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yes thats the whole point it should be replaced with a better one which can actually bring equality rather than giving false promises.

I am sorry you think so. It sounds shallow and heartless, and a chairborne opinion.

What are the false promises given, and what, in your opinion, can and should replace the present system and bring equality 'actually'?

I don't understand why do Dalits follow the religion in which they can't even enter the place of prayer? where they get killed even for trying that? what does that tell about the religion whose followers do that to fellow humans who come there (or get killed trying to come there) to pray?

Dalits should embrace Islam, see the equality and respect this religion gives them, and best of all there is no segregation/discrimination against anyone, once you enter the mosque everyone will embrace you regardless of your name, skin colour, social status, or whatever. Come embrace the true religion, the truth, the only truth.

Frankly, I don't agree. Islam is not the answer. It might have been, thirteen centuries ago; it isn't, today, and an honest person would admit that. Clearly, there are not too many of those. Instead of conversion, Dalits should assert themselves and their right to worship, and build their own temples, as they have started doing. Their freedom from caste domination will come with the building of more Dalit temples, their freedom from religious obsession will come when they realise the truth and reject religion altogether.

#Kashmir ?

Let me tell you the blunt truth.

Kashmiri society is riven from top to bottom with caste distinctions. Our oh-so-egalitarian brethren still have as many divisions as Hindus do, only for them, the differences do not show themselves in such a degree of severe social divisiveness as they do in other communities. It is a question of degree, not of presence or absence. As a result, the less-well respected castes, or quasi-caste groupings, suffer a significant amount of exclusion when it comes to marriages.

What to do, we are like that only.

 

[NIA]

Remove them in reality. Full integration. Make it illegal for people of same caste to marry one another. It will be gone in one generation.

Yep...it seems u have better vision than modi..
Just kidding.

#Kashmir ?

Kashmir is no more safe place pandits.

I am sorry but this is hilarious !

Yes it is.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Frankly, I don't agree. Frankly, Who gives a ****?
Islam is not the answer. It might have been, thirteen centuries ago; it isn't, today, What do you know?
and an honest person would admit that, indian talking of honesty? LOL. Clearly, there are not too many of those, look outside india, you'll find many. Instead of conversion, Dalits should assert themselves and their right to worship, and build their own temples, to pray to whoever in the religion that encourages killing other human beings for a baseless man-made cast system? people of as they have started doing. Their freedom from caste domination will come with the building of more Dalit temples, LOL, first I thought you didn't have a brain, but a brainless person can't come up with such twisted logic. their freedom from religious obsession will come when they realise the truth and reject religion altogether. As I said it gets even more twisted here, first you advise them to build their own temples then suggest that they will reject the religion (obviously Hindu religion, that we are talking about) because they will realise it's not truth. That's what I said Truth is only in ISLAM.

 

[Whazzup]

I am sorry you think so. It sounds shallow and heartless, and a chairborne opinion.

What are the false promises given, and what, in your opinion, can and should replace the present system and bring equality 'actually'?

Alot of points were added by many members but here is the best post.

I believe that the present Govt is on right track but needs to be more ambitious.

Step 1. Universalized comprehensive and unique bio-metric database so that everyone is documented with regards to important parameters like income, demographic profile, etc - would also make PAN Cards redundant

Step 2. Connect everyone to banking system - this would also reduce dependence on shadow economy.

Step 3. Economic Subsidy - Directly to the aforementioned bank accounts of those deserving. Eliminates leakages due to corruption.

Step 4. Identify the most economically backward clusters or individuals and provide them with the requisite educational reservations, housing benefits, jobs etc - in short social security cover

Step 5. Make reservations and subsidies time bound. If the individual or cluster is unable to lift itself out of extreme poverty - then look for causes - Illness, Substance Abuse etc. Those who have been successfully mainstreamed should be removed from benefits system. Would discourage rent seeking behavior as analysis will clearly seperate those who are lazy and indolent from those who are in genuine need.

I believe we have made progress with regards to above and next decade would hopefully see full realization of Indian Social Security so that only the deserving benefit.

Y is it bad? bcoz reservation should be provided to poor only , a lower caste doesn't necessarily make u poor . This system has outlived its usefulness now its creating more imbalance in the society where the people who got benefited from the reservation in the past are still getting it even when they can provide quality education and all round better future to their children. ( how much more social upliftment do u need for them.) While other the ones who really deserves it are w8ing for their turn.

Its very clear govt don't wanna risk votes by making people unhappy and they also don't want to fight corruption in education sector so they are happy to keep this reservation circus running .

 

[opruh]

Welcome to india.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Frankly, I don't agree. Frankly, Who gives a ****?

How about the idiot who says he doesn't give a 4 star, and then spends time carefully giving a 4 star?

Islam is not the answer. It might have been, thirteen centuries ago; it isn't, today, What do you know?

You got the answer; what more do you need to find out?

and an honest person would admit that, indian talking of honesty? LOL.

Meaning what? That Indians may not talk of honesty? That Indians are not honest?
Any of these are violations; want to test it?

Clearly, there are not too many of those, look outside india, you'll find many.

All right.
Clearly, the person who answered is not an honest person. He cannot respond to any point of view except with generalisations.

Instead of conversion, Dalits should assert themselves and their right to worship, and build their own temples, to pray to whoever in the religion that encourages killing other human beings for a baseless man-made cast system?

No. To pray to whomever, or whatever they wish to pray to. To a higher being that does not tolerate killing other human beings for a baseless man-made caste system.
That is known as freedom of religion.
I sincerely sympathise with your predicament, not knowing anything of such things.

people of as they have started doing. Their freedom from caste domination will come with the building of more Dalit temples, LOL, first I thought you didn't have a brain, but a brainless person can't come up with such twisted logic.

Possibly. While your brain farts keep exiting as pointless LOLs, the Dalit is taking steps to settle his own condition, and not through conversion to a seventh century collection of primitive prejudices.

their freedom from religious obsession will come when they realise the truth and reject religion altogether. As I said it gets even more twisted here, first you advise them to build their own temples then suggest that they will reject the religion (obviously Hindu religion, that we are talking about) because they will realise it's not truth. That's what I said Truth is only in ISLAM.

No.

None so blind as those who do not WISH to see.

I suggested that initially, they take a small step of practising their religion in conditions of self-respect and dignity. I suggested that they take a greater step later, of rejecting religion, ALL religion, not obviously Hindu religion, because all religions are equally exploitative and useless, because they will recognise that neither version is the truth.

And nor is any other religion the truth.

 

[ranjeet]

Or may be to avoid situation like this....
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No its not.... There's no Mahavir statue on that road

@jamahir

Sure.