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8 teachers quit after being told not to sing National Anthem on I-Day

I am as Indian as you are...... period. Do you want to say I am a Pakistani just because me being a Muslim.

You don't need to take offence. Chill out. False flaggers have come with Indian flags and muslim names .. also hindu names!!!

No one doubts your loyalty to your nation. Period.

PS: I agree with you. UP elections are nearing, this gentleman has tried a political stunt but will bear consequences. It is as stupid as gau rakshaks who are wantonly killing and which the PM has finally has spoken about.
 
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who are we to decide if he was a muslim or not ?

its between him and his god :-)


Islam is not a pick and choose religion. Either you are Muslim or you are not a Muslim.

His case is not that of a functionally atheist but namesake Muslim, but that of a functionally atheist namesake Muslim who voluntarily took up practices and culture of another religion. Blank out his name and not even a single person would call him a Muslim. He was for all practical purpose-a Tamil Hindu Brahmin.
 
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Which Christian opposes National Anthem?

I have not come across one yet!

Zia ul Haq should take the first flight available to a country governed by Allah, such nonsense shouldn't be tolerated no more. It's the never ending appeasement by the secular brigade that has emboldened such elements from minority communities be it Muslims or Christians.
 
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@adil_minhas Well argued, liked your reasoned and sensible posts. It is when we see people like you, calm and rational and Indian first, coming from the Indian society, that we always have greater hope and faith in our nation. I really get pi$$ed off with idiots who misquote the holy teachings of any holy book, irrespective of the nation they reside in.

All the books, and I have read all of them (being a declared atheist as all religions today, for me, are being propagated and practiced against their teachings aka commercialised religion) speak about being a good human and improving one's own self and not bothering about others. But does anyone bother about incorporating that? :hitwall:

Islam is not a pick and choose religion. Either you are Muslim or you are not a Muslim.

His case is not that of a functionally atheist namesake Muslim, but that of a namesake Muslim who voluntarily took up practices and culture of another religion. Blank out his name and not even a single person would call him a Muslim. He was for all practical purpose-a Tamil Hindu Brahmin.

Don't make funny statements

He was a well read muslim. Read the Hadith, the prophet said that anyone who said 'as salaam alaykum' is a musallman.

I have offered namaz, been to mass, done seva in gurudwara and have gone for arti and have read all the holy scriptures of the faiths.

At the end of the day, you realise the commonality of the scriptures in encouraging and emphasising the need to be a good human and not bother about anyone else. Irrespective of howsoever the task is.
 
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Brother it is a sad state of affairs.

Two days I was locked in debate. One Muslim Indian, 5-8 Pakistani Muslims.

All I asked him was - Who is a Pakistani?

The results were shocking to me. Were it not for my sister @Spring Onion , I would have come to some pretty stark conclusions....

Forums' views are like surveys where you apply opinion of few people based on flawed counting system on all.
 
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@adil_minhas Well argued, liked your reasoned and sensible posts. It is when we see people like you, calm and rational and Indian first, coming from the Indian society, that we always have greater hope and faith in our nation.

Thank you brother.

P.S. But your pretentious and pompous old friend would not agree with you.
 
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Don't make funny statements

There is nothing funny in my statement.


He was a well read muslim. Read the Hadith, the prophet said that anyone who said 'as salaam alaykum' is a musallman.

NO. You need to read shahada.
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I have offered namaz, been to mass, done seva in gurudwara and have gone for arti and have read all the holy scriptures of the faiths.

A Muslim who does this is an de-facto apostate (except reading of scriptures part).

At the end of the day, you realise the commonality of the scriptures in encouraging and emphasising the need to be a good human and not bother about anyone else. Irrespective of howsoever the task is.

All religion are product of different socio-cultural mores and there is no similarity between them. All Abrahmic religion originated in desert wasteland of middle east and represent that society. All Indic religions originated in alluvial plain and represent that society.


The similarity that is there is due to blatant plagiarizing like Christians plagiarizing Jewish texts ,and Muslims plagirizing texts of both Judaism and Christianity.
 
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Forums' views are like surveys where you apply opinion of few people based on flawed counting system on all.

But sister. You would agree that this (PDF) membership would be mainly from the educated affluent lot who would (or should) be able to articulate their viewpoint competently.

If they cannot say, then what hope from the 90+% anpadh jaahil awaam?

I will say again, because it bears repeating. With each passing moment, and embarrassing Pakistani post, I was losing all hope. Of a nation who knew their place in the world.

Until you came along and cut through the smelly stuff of citizen this and Indus Valley that.
 
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There is nothing funny in my statement.

It is. The quoted items are funny. Who are you or I to judge a muslim a good or bad muslim?

NO. You need to read shahada.

Since when did any right thinking human being require someone else to interpret the holy scriptures?
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All Abrahmic religion originated in desert wasteland of middle east and represent that society. All Indic religions originated in alluvial plain and represent that society.
The similarity that is there is due to blatant plagiarizing like Christians plagiarizing Jewish texts ,and Muslims plagirizing texts of both Judaism and Christianity.

Couldn't agree more here with you.

Cheers

:lol: what fraud?

It's summer and you are claiming to be spring onion maybe?

Sorry for the retard post, couldn't resisto_O

P.S. But your pretentious and pompous old friend would not agree with you.

Who?
 
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Joe Shearer. Is he an anglo Indian? Lots of bile that one has. Not that anglos have a lot of bile (many do though). Am just asking. He sounds like one. A frustrated old anglo who did not get his one way ticket on the Queen Elizabeth to Ol' Blighty and has to slum it here with us smelly brown bluddy Indians.
 
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