5nm Kirin 9006C chip comes out, Huawei successfully breaks through again
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There will be huge demand once Huawei smartphones are back on shelves. This time no political trick will save US brand.
At least Huawei still able to chunk out products under sanctions. Better collect it, all limited edition!
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I’ve said before, and I’ll say it again. US severely underestimates China’s capabilities in all areas.
Why you ask?
US has never faced a competitor with a population 4 times larger, with a high average IQ, very well educated, incredibly hard working work ethic, disciplined, governed by a very competent government.
Why you ask?
US has never faced a competitor with a population 4 times larger, with a high average IQ, very well educated, incredibly hard working work ethic, disciplined, governed by a very competent government.
Everything independent. Maybe chip is independent made by Huawei own new foundry factory. Huawei is very secret this time about this chips, they never mention who make this 5nm chips for them.
They maybe using expensive N+x technic which may work without EUV but more lengthy process and not able to mass produced as easily. That is why the stock is limited but at least Huawei proves US sanction is garbage!
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This "very well educated and incredibly hard working etc" population in China has had to rely on the Western ARM instruction set for its new Kirin chip. Even the sooper dooper "indigenous" Chinese architecture, the LoongArch", turned out to have the American MIPS architecture as base and I think also includes ARM and x86 instruction sets which are also Western. Chinese companies are also adopting the RISC-V processor architecture, again Western in origin and now international because it is an open source project.
Anyone can set up a foundry given investment of some billions. What would be a matter to talk about is a new processor and OS architecture and a different production process.
At least US is not able to do anything to stop us. Maybe point is US sanction is useless in this process.
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At least US is not able to do anything to stop us. Maybe point is US sanction is useless in this process.
I agree that US sanctions are useless now because China has permanent licenses to processor architectures like MIPS and ARM and now there is the open source RISC-V processor architecture and then there is open source Linux and there is the supposedly indigenous Chinese OS, HarmonyOS 2, which seems to me to be nothing but an adaptation of the open source project BarrelFish OS. So all the base material is already in Chinese hands.
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China is only behind in EUV lithography.
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At least Huawei still able to chunk out products under sanctions. Better collect it, all limited edition!
My questions were genuine, not rhetorical.
China is quite impressive, as it challenges the current global order. It’s the first real near peer challenge the US has faced since the British empire over 150 years ago.
If China actually able to make it through the demographic challenge and bad debts over the next 20-40 years and still keep up technologically it will probably endure intact and keep on growing, especially if it unseats the Dollar as the only global reserve currency.
This is why China is making many people nervous; because they just maybe maybe able to pull it off. The Soviets, the Japanese, and the Germans didn’t have all the capabilities China has, and china is already so well integrated into global supply chains.
Also if China is able to do all that and take Taiwan in the meantime, it would have unrestricted access to the oceans, as it wouldn’t be locked in the first island Chain and easily blockaded by hostile ships and submarines.
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The sanction on Huawei were purely political. IPhone was being decimated so they decided to rein in Huawei. Does anyone remember Japanese giant Toshiba. Look what they did to that company.
Chinese will bounce back and west's days are limited
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I really like huawei products , been using them since 2015. from 8GB ROM to 128 ROM Rn. but i hate their Store , App Gallery Sucks , it doesn't have most of the apps i need to use , sure its good for chinese consumers but out of China , its not really popular. Unless they bring in Google Support back they aren't going to get much sales anywhere except China.
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