40% rise in farmer suicides in Maharashtra

[zootinali]

subsistence farming , small scale farming , lack of insurance , presence of middle man, apathetic planners are all the reasons these farmers are dying. some help from govt. and proper planning will surely do wonders but then priorities are something else.

 

[Hindustani78]

first some context on this town called beed from where the reporter is reporting from.

Female foetuses in Beed fed to dogs to hide evidence | Daily Mail Online

so beed town and its state, maharashtra, are the bases of many a human atrocity and tragedy.



nonsense... there is no human reason for farmers to commit suicide because of rain or drought... there is only the indian reason... india is the most capitalist society in history where the citizens are encouraged to make money off each other in every inhuman way possible and where the governments have put taxes of every kind possible just so that they could become the highest importer of armaments to fight against self-created enemies and to point their rifles where nato says... india's extreme capitalism and non-scientific farming techniques are the reason for these farmers to commit suicide.

in the libyan jamahiriya started decades back was history's biggest water delivery system, the "great man-made river" project... big diameter pipelines whose network ran thousands of kilometers from the libyan desert underground natural reservoirs... and this water delivered free of money by libya's socialist system to libyan citizens... this water system removed the drought part of the problem... and this was done in a desert country !!!

this is socialism at work, where human life is sacred and worship of money is anti-human, as it should be...


did this fellow think twice before taking loans for the wrongest and very indian of reasons... four-day weddings with 300 guests, pilgrimage for "elderly parents", sending the son to some engineering or mba college in bangalore or andhra so that he becomes a wage-slave, the 7th festival celebration since the start of the year etc.

1. the governments haven't bothered all these decades to construct water pipelines to deliver free water to farmers, they are left waiting for irregular rains.

2. electricity is not free... nothing is free in india, except atrocities.

3. the farmers don't follow scientific techniques ( and common sense ) so their crops are easily washed away in rain.





can those "experts" say why eating jowar ( instead of growing sugarcane ) hasn't turned the maharashtra farmers into super geniuses??



many indian farmers don't know much... i am here talking just about their farming - "ancient" and useless techniques... they didn't learn much from the americans who gave india its "green revolution" in the 60's which anyway was most disastrous for global environment and is another string in the india story.



what "international subsidy system", sir??

and this "micro-finance" is very indian in nature, yes?? capitalism is deeply embedded in indian culture after all... so what if mba colleges are american invention and "micro-finance" is uno-promoted capitalism... it was very indian to neither reject mba colleges nor "micro finance".

"insurance" is a idiotic system meant to make money for capitalists from speculation on the lives of humans when instead their national government should have removed the trouble of money from human lives and given these humans either things for free or at low price.



how?? have modi sarkaar and sangh parivaar turned into socialists suddenly, someone who consider human life to be sacred and not worship of money and religious idols??



modi bhai cares only about religio-nationalism and "ancient indian" human genetics, not about current human miseries.
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@The_Showstopper @Aamna Ali @Razia Sultana @takeiteasy

40% rise in farmer suicides in Maharashtra - The Times of India

If you want to debate then please debate directly.

 

[jamahir]

If you want to debate then please debate directly.

what do you mean??

 

[Hindustani78]

you mean my long post, with pictures even, was nonsense??

i am not saying its nonsense. its Times of India full article and its like you are debating with that article writer not with me.

 

[jamahir]

i am not saying its nonsense. its Times of India full article and its like you are debating with that article writer not with me.

well, i am certainly directly discussing with the members i quoted... the toi article is not loading at my end but i have done a better analysis of this issue than that article.

 

[Hindustani78]

well, i am certainly directly discussing with the members i quoted... the toi article is not loading at my end but i have done a better analysis of this issue than that article.

But you are breaking the article and asking me to answer which would derail the whole topic.

 

[jamahir]

But you are breaking the article and asking me to answer which would derail the whole topic.

breaking?? should we be dictated by the exact boundary of that article?? in that case, that article has the proper solution and the rest of the world and its thousands of years of history doesn't matter.

 

[Hindustani78]

breaking?? should we be dictated by the exact boundary of that article?? in that case, that article has the proper solution and the rest of the world and its thousands of years of history doesn't matter.

Report compiled at the request of Bombay High Court about farmer’s suicides in Maharashtra, states that corporate globalisation and ruling indebtedness are the reasons, for suicides care not restricted to one income level or land-holding category. Accordingly, private lending accounts for 50% of the total lending.

Self-help Groups (SHGs) member may be charged between 24% and 36% or even 48% on the loan that they receive from the A microfinance institution (MFI) is a financial intermediary, which provides credit to the rural populace. This most often are NGOs. The norm is about 3% per month which is itself usurious compared to what banks charge. In some cases, the NGOs involved charge an additional sum for its services which is added to the interest rates.

All this would become extre burden on the farmers who take loans and when they cant pay , they commit suicides but those numbers are going in thousands and because of this only i have talked about micro finance.

Here i am not blaming anyone but just pointing out towards the reasons. If these farmers get direct bank loans without paying extra money and with less interest then this suicides will be checked.

 

[jamahir]

Report compiled at the request of Bombay High Court about farmer’s suicides in Maharashtra, states that corporate globalisation and ruling indebtedness are the reasons, for suicides care not restricted to one income level or land-holding category. Accordingly, private lending accounts for 50% of the total lending.

corporate globalization and its evils need not affect indian farmers at all if tomorrow india adopts the below simple socialist principles to begin with...

1. remove interest from bank loans.
2. nationalize all banks.
3. abolish the traditional private money lending.
4. make electricity free.
5. start building a proper water delivery project like that of the libyan system i posted.
6. make weddings a compulsorily legal procedure, with no other old cultural ties remaining.
7. discourage celebration of festivals which forward superstition and wasteful idolatry.
8. make education system free.
9. make medical system free.
10. start "urban farming" and "vertical farming" projects in the towns and cities.
11. start promoting "vertical farming" as the compulsory farming system for most crops in present rural areas... this has far reaching social and ecological benefits.
12. encourage wheat and corn farming instead of rice... this will release lot of pressure on world resources and cut down drastically on world pollution.
13. encourage sugarcane farming for production of ethanol fuel for vehicles and other machinery.

Self-help Groups (SHGs) member may be charged between 24% and 36% or even 48% on the loan that they receive from the A microfinance institution (MFI) is a financial intermediary, which provides credit to the rural populace. This most often are NGOs. The norm is about 3% per month which is itself usurious compared to what banks charge. In some cases, the NGOs involved charge an additional sum for its services which is added to the interest rates.

we clearly see the unnecessary complicated-ness of this system that india has... the establishment thinks it can remove problems but by introducing more complications... what is needed is a clean-slate approach... change the system radically by adopting socialism... else, until india exists in its present form these problems will remain.

All this would become extre burden on the farmers who take loans and when they cant pay , they commit suicides but those numbers are going in thousands and because of this only i have talked about micro finance.

no libyan farmer committed suicide because of economic reasons since 1969 ( i don't know if any committed suicide before that because islam prohibits suicide ).

Here i am not blaming anyone but just pointing out towards the reasons.

sorry but you are being diplomatic when the need is to vent outrage at the traditional system of the last 68 years... suiciding is not natural unless one's house is surrounded by 40-feet anaconda snakes.

 

[Hindustani78]

corporate globalization and its evils need not affect indian farmers at all if tomorrow india adopts the below simple socialist principles to begin with...

1. remove interest from bank loans.
2. nationalize all banks.
3. abolish the traditional private money lending.
4. make electricity free.
5. start building a proper water delivery project like that of the libyan system i posted.
6. make weddings a compulsorily legal procedure, with no other old cultural ties remaining.
7. discourage celebration of festivals which forward superstition and wasteful idolatry.
8. make education system free.
9. make medical system free.
10. start "urban farming" and "vertical farming" projects in the towns and cities.
11. start promoting "vertical farming" as the compulsory farming system for most crops in present rural areas... this has far reaching social and ecological benefits.
12. encourage wheat farming instead of rice... this will release lot of pressure on world resources and cut down drastically on world pollution..

Socialism wont work in India and it kept Indians backward for a very long time.

1. Its on RBI to take decision , lesser interest or no interest.
2. Farmers should take loans from state owned banks.
3. Private money lending cant be stopped but if farmers get in state owned banks then they wont go in that direction
4. Still time is needed for it
5. projects got nod . Parliament nod on Bill to convert 101 rivers into National Waterways this session: Gadkari | Zee News
6.Marriage is important in Indian culture and special schemes are made on state level.
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7. Religious festivals are celebrated by people who follow thier religion
8. BBC NEWS | South Asia | India passes free education bill
9. Already many Government schemes have been implemented.
10.Investments are being made in Agriculture sector and dairy sector

we clearly see the unnecessary complicated-ness of this system that india has... the establishment thinks it can remove problems but by introducing more complications... what is needed is a clean-slate approach... change the system radically by adopting socialism... else, until india exists in its present form these problems will remain.

Middle class population have increased in India after the reforms done by Pm P V Narishma Rao

no libyan farmer committed suicide because of economic reasons since 1969 ( i don't know if any committed suicide before that because islam prohibits suicide ).

Libya cant be compare with India in any aspect.

sorry but you are being diplomatic when the need is to vent outrage at the traditional system of the last 68 years... suiciding is not natural unless one's house is surrounded by 40-feet anaconda snakes

Government of India has adopted 5 year plan and its moving step by step to take the country in right direction.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Unexpected Rain and Storms Destroyed the crops.
@jamahir Did your Gaddafi have a Weather Controlling Device by any Chance?
So that he can Conjure the weather he needs, like the females he needs just like Oday Hussain!

 

[jamahir]

Unexpected Rain and Storms Destroyed the crops.

yes, maharashtra, andhra and karnataka are more like usa and the amazon rain forests with yearly storms and heavy rain... and the rain god ( after all this is india ) commands the farmers to suicide.

@jamahir Did your Gaddafi have a Weather Controlling Device by any Chance?

no, just the rare ability to simplify things.

i don't know if libya has rain storm but it does seem to have sand storm, and the "great man-made river" ensured end to water shortage.

 

[punit]

lol its difficult to find this ... but u can find it in his dharna speech.. he talked about the subsides govt of India provide to farmers like Free electricity for Tube wells and etc..

i find this on Dawn

IMRAN Khan is always telling the audience in his public addresses that the peasants in India enjoy special concessions like free electricity, subsidised fertilizers and seeds etc, therefore they are happy and prosperous.

If this is true, then may I ask Imran Khan, why is it that thousands of farmers routinely commit suicide in India? In 2012 alone, 13,754 farmers committed suicide in India because they were unable to repay their debt to private money lenders because of failed crops.

Authentic figures for 2013 and 2014 are hard to come by, but the fact that 204 farmers committed suicide in the first four months of 2014 in the Indian state of Maharashtra alone speaks volumes about the problems and misery faced by Indian farmers. One should remember that Maharashtra with 80 million people is the second largest state of India which has a population of 1.3 billion!

India also has 33 million Dalits or untouchables who are social outcasts. They have no right to even exist. India also has the worst human rights record with regards to Kashmir (100,000 Muslims in the Indian occupied valley have been killed by the Indian army).

Imran Khan please take note.

Safir A. Siddiqui

The Indian peasant - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

untimely rain ruined the farmers. there is nothing any body could do about it.

 

[Bang Galore]

corporate globalization and its evils need not affect indian farmers at all if tomorrow india adopts the below simple socialist principles to begin with...

1. remove interest from bank loans.
2. nationalize all banks.
3. abolish the traditional private money lending.
4. make electricity free.
5. start building a proper water delivery project like that of the libyan system i posted.
6. make weddings a compulsorily legal procedure, with no other old cultural ties remaining.
7. discourage celebration of festivals which forward superstition and wasteful idolatry.
8. make education system free.
9. make medical system free.
10. start "urban farming" and "vertical farming" projects in the towns and cities.
11. start promoting "vertical farming" as the compulsory farming system for most crops in present rural areas... this has far reaching social and ecological benefits.
12. encourage wheat and corn farming instead of rice... this will release lot of pressure on world resources and cut down drastically on world pollution.
13. encourage sugarcane farming for production of ethanol fuel for vehicles and other machinery.



we clearly see the unnecessary complicated-ness of this system that india has... the establishment thinks it can remove problems but by introducing more complications... what is needed is a clean-slate approach... change the system radically by adopting socialism... else, until india exists in its present form these problems will remain.

As Margaret Thatcher is quoted as saying -"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."

 

[jamahir]

As Margaret Thatcher is quoted as saying -"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."

and margaret thatcher was a idiot who was only a slave of white house... i keep shouting "libya, libya" and anti-socialist indians on pdf give me the deaf ear.