4.300 Hindus,Sikhs from Pak Af get Indian citizenship

[tsinga]

Stop generalizing terrorist to be Muslims, this is clearly not a work of any god-fearing-Muslim. Again it's very sad to see this happening.

God fearing or not, they are muslims.

Slowly muslims across countries are forcing everyone else to leave.
The christians have been almost emptied out of muslim countries.
the jews have been emptied out of muslim countries.
the yazidis are being exterminated and removed
the leaving of hindus and sikhs from Pakistan and Afghanistan will ensure that the last of these people also migrate from muslim countries.


Essentially, we are seeing the muslim behaviour across the world. Why then should they not be generalized?

 

[WAJsal]

Why then should they not be generalized?

You are generalizing me and many other Muslims(those who abide by Islamic rules) are also terrorists. Islam in fact tells us to protect and help minorities of different religion.
Terrorist don't represent Islam.

God fearing or not, they are muslims.

Wrong anyone who is not flowing Islamic rules is not a Muslim, especially those who are involved in killings of thousands.

 

[SRP]

The NDA government said on Sunday it had granted citizenship to nearly 4,300 Hindu and Sikh refugees from Pakistan and Afghanistan in its one year of being in power, nearly four times the number granted to such persons in the preceding five years under UPA-II.

According to officials in the government, this rapid increase in granting citizenships is in keeping with the BJP’s stated aim of positioning India as a ‘natural home’ for Hindus fleeing persecution anywhere in the world, a policy similar to Israel’s Law of Return that grants only Jews the right to return and settle there. This policy was outlined in the BJP’s election manifesto for the 2014 Lok Sabha elections.

A safe haven:

» Earlier, the Centre had decided to grant citizenship to Hindu immigrants from Bangladesh.

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There are about 400 Pakistani Hindu refugee settlements in cities across Rajasthan.
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Since May 2014, nearly 19,000 refugees in M.P. have got long-term visas. 11,000 such visas were given in Rajasthan and 4,000 in Gujarat.

The Hindu had, in an exclusive report on May 10, said the BJP government would soon submit to the Supreme Court a plan to grant citizenship to thousands of Hindu refugees from Bangladesh who had crossed over into India after 1971. This process would be simultaneous with the BJP’s continued efforts to rid India of ‘infiltrators’, a veiled reference to Muslims who crossed over from Bangladesh.

Officials say there are about two lakh Hindu and Sikh refugees from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan living in India. During the entire tenure of UPA-II, they said the total number of citizenships granted to such persons was only 1,023.

Ever since the Modi government assumed charge in May 2014, nearly 19,000 refugees have been given long-term visas in Madhya Pradesh, around 11,000 in Rajasthan and 4,000 in Gujarat, official sources said.

In April, the Home Ministry had rolled out an online system for Long Term Visa applications and for their processing by various agencies. The decision was taken to address the difficulty being faced by Hindu and Sikh minorities of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan who had come with the intention of settling permanently in India. There are 400 Pakistani Hindu refugee settlements in cities such as Jodhpur, Jaisalmer, Bikaner and Jaipur. Hindu refugees from Bangladesh mostly live in West Bengal and the northeastern States.

(With inputs from PTI)

4,300 Hindu and Sikh refugees from Pakistan and Afghanistan get citizenship in India - The Hindu

 

[tsinga]

You are generalizing me and many other Muslims(those who abide by Islamic rules) are also terrorists. Islam in fact tells us to protect and help minorities of different religion.
Terrorist don't represent Islam.

Wrong anyone who is not flowing Islamic rules is not a Muslim, especially those who are involved in killings of thousands.

No one bothers whether or not you are following 'real Islam'. No one knows what that is anyway.

These people are born Muslims and profess to follow Islam, and in very large numbers, across very large number of separate countries are doing the exact same thing - kicking non-Muslims out of their territories.

It is therefore a logical conclusion that this is Muslim behaviour and Islamic behaviour.

From yazidis in Iraq to having an apartheid regime in Saudi Arabia that allows for no other religion to flourish to Hindus and Sikhs leaving Pakistan and Afghanistan - the pattern is the same, the perpetrator religion is the same, the people are different and non related except for religion.

That leads you to all but one conclusion. You may choose to stick with the 'they are not following real Islam so they're not real Muslims' but it won't hold any weight. They are all Muslims.

 

[WAJsal]

From yazidis in Iraq to having an apartheid regime in Saudi Arabia that allows for no other religion to flourish to Hindus and Sikhs leaving Pakistan and Afghanistan - the pattern is the same, the perpetrator religion is the same, the people are different.

As long as Pakistan is concerned: an unfortunate case. That being said non-Muslims are not as frequently targeted as Muslims, the situation has improved. Not ideal but improved.
Your views are complete negative.

 

[tsinga]

As long as Pakistan is concerned: an unfortunate case. That being said non-Muslims are not as frequently targeted as Muslims, the situation has improved. Not ideal but improved.
Your views are complete negative.

My words are influenced by the feet of the non-Muslims who are unequivocally saying this by moving out of Muslim countries(so many) in droves.

The Jews have been forced to move
the Christians have been forced to move
the Hindus have been forced to move
the Sikhs have been forced to move.
the Yazidis have been forced to move and slaughtered

These people and their beautiful cultures are barely left in the Muslim world.

You tell me whether this is just related to Pakistan or not?

Or let us take the example of laws in Muslim countries - they are nothing short of fascist and apartheid laws.

They don't allow minorities to become President's, Prime Ministers or Head of Military.
In Pakistan, its a criminal offense to leave Islam. Yes, you can be prosecuted!
In Saudi Arabia, it is illegal to construct a public temple or any other place of worship.
Its illegal to spread a non-Muslim faith

There is no freedom of faith, there is no freedom of choice.

What should this tell us? Do you expect us to believe Islam is a peace loving religion? or that these people are not Muslims?

You may be brain washed into not seeing all these realities in front of our faces and keep believing otherwise because of Islamic indoctrination since a young age.

We are not. We are seeing facts and first hand what Muslims do globally.

 

[WAJsal]

My words are influenced by the feet of the non-Muslims who are unequivocally saying this by moving out of Muslim countries(so many) in droves.

The Jews have been forced to move
the Christians have been forced to move
the Hindus have been forced to move
the Sikhs have been forced to move.
the Yazidis have been forced to move and slaughtered

These people and their beautiful cultures are barely left in the Muslim world.

You tell me whether this is just related to Pakistan or not?

Or let us take the example of laws in Muslim countries - they are nothing short of fascist and apartheid laws.

They don't allow minorities to become President's, Prime Ministers or Head of Military.
In Pakistan, its a criminal offense to leave Islam. Yes, you can be prosecuted!
In Saudi Arabia, it is illegal to construct a public temple or any other place of worship.
Its illegal to spread a non-Muslim faith

There is no freedom of faith, there is no freedom of choice.

What should this tell us? Do you expect us to believe Islam is a peace loving religion? or that these people are not Muslims?

You may be brain washed into not seeing all these realities in front of our faces and keep believing otherwise because of Islamic indoctrination since a young age.

We are not. We are seeing facts and first hand what Muslims do globally.

i will leave you at peace with your negativity and hatred. That being said don't generalize us all by actions of few of us. It's no different than saying all Indians are rapist, do you have any idea how stupid you sound.

 

[Echo_419]

Congratulations to them, and hopefully they'll find peace and prosperity in our land.



And that makes me wonder, almost none from our 'oppressed' minority apply for citizenship in our neighboring countries.

Indeed these are pur own people & are needed to be welcomed with open hands

 

[tsinga]

i will leave you at peace with your negativity and hatred. That being said don't generalize us all by actions of few of us. It's no different than saying all Indians are rapist, do you have any idea how stupid you sound.

Yes mate, I am the one who is sounding stupid.

Not Pakistani Muslims who make it illegal for individuals to exercise choice
Not Pakistani Muslims who make it illegal for non-Muslims to become Head of State or Military
Not Saudi Muslims who make it illegal to build a public temple for worship.
Not Saudi Muslims who make it illegal to propagate our faith openly.

You are right, these are the actions of a few individuals, because Country wide laws and regulations are not the result of society in general but a few individuals(who are not real Muslims right?).

And ofcourse I am biased, not you.

 

[doppelganger]

India is the ancestral home of Hindus the world over.

Modi ji has clearly articulated his view on the subject of right of return for any Hindu around the world. Much as Israel has for Jews.

This is a proud moment for us. This is their soil as much as it is ours.

 

[WAJsal]

Not Pakistani Muslims who make it illegal for individuals to exercise choice

Wrong. Everyone is allowed to exercise their faith openly. It's one of the basic principles of Islam.

Not Pakistani Muslims who make it illegal for non-Muslims to become Head of State or Military

Pakistan is a Islamic country, got a problem deal with it.

Not Saudi Muslims who make it illegal to build a public temple for worship.
Not Saudi Muslims who make it illegal to propagate our faith openly.

so automatically Saudis represent Islam, wow. I suggest you read how prophet or his companions later on treated Christians and Jews.

And ofcourse I am biased, not you.

Yes not me, i'm never biased. I'm always realistic.

 

[tsinga]

Wrong. Everyone is allowed to exercise their faith openly. It's one of the basic principles of Islam.

Pakistan is a Islamic country, got a problem deal with it.

so automatically Saudis represent Islam, wow. I suggest you read how prophet or his companions later on treated Christians and Jews.

Yes not me, i'm never biased. I'm always realistic.

Why would I have a problem with it. That is exactly my point and you just proved it.

Pakistan is an Islamic country and therefore follows Islam.

In Pakistan, it is illegal to leave Islam - ie it doesn't understand the concept of freedom of faith.
In Pakistan, minorities cannot become heads of state or military ie it doesn't understand the concept of treating all humans or heck just your own citizens equally by law.

Saudi Arabia follows sharia - and where non-Muslims dont have the right to even construct a public place of worship.


Which is my point, these aspects are replicated by Islam throughout the Islamic world. Which is why the rest of us are leaving these countries.

You might give us lies about Islam being 'peace' and 'equality' but we see the reality and facts across different countries and Muslim behaviors and what non-Muslims actually face.

 

[WAJsal]

Why would I have a problem with it. That is exactly my point and you just proved it.

I answered your post of why Hindus or Christians can't be the head of the state or etc,etc.

In Pakistan, minorities cannot become heads of state or military ie it doesn't understand the concept of treating all humans or heck just your own citizens equally by law.

It's a Islamic country. Again if you have a problem, deal with it.

Saudi Arabia follows sharia - and where non-Muslims dont have the right to even construct a public place of worship.

That is not a part of Sharia, don't confuse. In Islam Non-Muslims are allowed to practice their religion. Please educate yourself before posting such things.

You might give us lies about Islam being 'peace' and 'equality' but we see the reality and facts across different countries and Muslim behaviors and what non-Muslims actually face.

There is a thing called staying within limits. Now you have certainly crossed them. It's no different than saying all Indians are rapist or etc, etc. You need to come out of this negativity. Don't generalize anyone. One thing please do an independent study about Islam, would help your confused mind.

 

[tsinga]

I answered your post of why Hindus or Christians can't be the head of the state or etc,etc.

It's a Islamic country. Again if you have a problem, deal with it.

That is not a part of Sharia, don't confuse. In Islam Non-Muslims are allowed to practice their religion. Please educate yourself before posting such things.

There is a thing called staying within limits. Now you have certainly crossed them. It's no different than saying all Indians are rapist or etc, etc. You need to come out of this negativity. Don't generalize anyone. One thing please do an independent study about Islam, would help your confused mind.

You are being deliberately thick and instead of giving answers, giving standard text book replies which don't address the issues.

You're repeating without adding new information.

I also posted about why other religions and other religious majority countries like India, Britain, US have no issues with non-Hindus/non-Christians becoming Prime Ministers or President's or leading Armies.

Its just the Muslims who have these issues - which as you rightly put is because Pakistan and other countries are Islamic countries.

I also mentioned, I have no problem with Pakistan being an Islamic country. It is a characteristic of an Islamic country to not provide equal rights to its citizens, to have discriminatory laws between its own citizens. This is also a characteristic of Islam, the religion which your State follows.

Non Muslims are allowed to practice their religions, but they are not allowed to spread their religion. Something that non-Muslim countries allow - ie for Muslims are given freedom to spread their religion if they want.

Again, you are unable to grasp the concept of giving equality. You religion gives minimum possible to non-Muslims - like allowed to practice their religion, but not allowed to spread their religion which they give to Muslims.

Hence what I said, Muslims follow Islam. Muslim countries follow Islamic laws. What they do, we see.

 

[WAJsal]

I also posted about why other religions and other religious majority countries like India, Britain, US have no issues with non-Hindus/non-Christians becoming Prime Ministers or President's or leading Armies.

So, does that means Islam is evil? i don't get your point. What does this prove? is this in anyway related to the discussion.

It is a characteristic of an Islamic country to not provide equal rights to its citizens, to have discriminatory laws between its own citizens. This is also a characteristic of Islam, the religion which your State follows.

Do you have any source of this statement? does the constitutional say's something like this. You are making things up. Ind Pakistan all citizen are equal, and all are allowed to follow their religion. Terrorism should not be confused with Islamic rules and laws.

Non Muslims are allowed to practice their religions, but they are not allowed to spread their religion. Something that non-Muslim countries allow - ie for Muslims are given freedom to spread their religion if they want.

Again any proof? stop making things up. As far as Pakistan is concerned everyone is allowed to practice their religion.

Again, you are unable to grasp the concept of giving equality. You religion gives minimum possible to non-Muslims - like allowed to practice their religion, but not allowed to spread their religion which they give to Muslims.

Don't question Islam, please you don't have full-knowledge about the Islam. Please, it's insulting.

Hence what I said, Muslims follow Islam. Muslim countries follow Islamic laws. What they do, we see.

that does not means they are representing Islam.
Please don't start on Islam, if you are so keen please do an independent researcher.
No religious discussion please! if you are having confusions do an independent research!