27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I don't know how the hell this picture got leaked out on the right on twitter, but it says CONFIDENTIAL at the bottom. Report that tweet and delete this post.

Dude you are acting a bit odd these days....remove this...delete this....report this....
A little reverse search reveals that this detail has been circulating on social media since it was issued.
Even the Bakhtoras posted it on their echo chamber on 14 August 2019.

What's the issue here?

The report is just a list of pilots that were awarded for Operation Swift Retort.

The photo is a screenshot from a TV program about a Sherdil team pilot. This pilot is not mentioned in the list of awarded pilots. The 2 things are unrelated.

The Indian has made up a claim that this Sherdil pilot is dead.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1495699654675255302

 

[Big_bud]

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Ex RAAF Mirage IIIDA, No 15 TA Squadron. H-4 Guidance
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Ex RAAF Mirage IIIDA, No 15 TA Squadron

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Mirage VPA, No 15 TA Squadron H-4 Launch

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F-17 Block 2, No 16 Squadron #BlackPanthers 2× Mk-83 REK Launch

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JF-17 Block 2, No 16 MR Squadron 2× Mk-83 REK Launch

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F-16AM Block 15 MLU, No 29 MR Squadron #Aggressors (aircraft from 11) Pilot: W/C Nauman Ali Khan AIM-120 AMRAAM launch

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F-16BM Block 15 MLU, 29 MR Squadron (aircraft from 11) Pilot: S/L Hassan Saddiqui. AIM-120 AMRAAM launch

F16 is the most sexy jet ever! The eyes just get fixed on it!

 

[Samar111]

With what?

With MIG-21....

 

[Bossman]

Indians are getting very anxious. Seems a new surprise is coming their way, soon.

 

[ummarz]

I fail to see any logic what so ever by any stretch of imagination why if we have a proof of second Indian aircraft destroyed we are not “leaking” it .

I can understand if we at some point wanted to hide how we brought the aircraft down but now that Indians have proudly displayed AMRAAM as a used condomn we should do our part and show where is was used.

I had several exchanges with Air Forces Monthly editor on this topic and I failed to convince him that we had shot down two aircrafts in the absences of any real proof.

Our narrative and truth is meaningless unless we show some proof of this incident.


This is one of my several exchanges with Thomas and you can clearly see his point. I have edited my name and email addresses.

Hey brother, I can think of a couple of reasons.

1: Pakistan doesn't want to 'have to prove' what it claims. PAF is a professional outfit, what they say should be the final word. Besides what stops the enemy from rejecting such proofs.
2: The evidence that Pakistan has is sensitive, revealing it can reveal the position and capabilities of our radar installations and potentially a few other things. This information can be exploited by the enemy to plan better next time.

We can sacrifice our feelings for the security of the nation. I am very sure that as soon it becomes feasible, PAF will release necessary information.

Cheers

 

[ummarz]

With MIG-21....

Are you suggesting that Abhi rammed the Mig into the PAK jet? cause he sure as hell didn't use any of the 4 missiles onboard...

 

[Flight of falcon]

Are you suggesting that Abhi rammed the Mig into the PAK jet? cause he sure as hell didn't use any of the 4 missiles onboard...

No he used his pistol…. One bullet was found missing.
After ejecting he fired with his gun and brought the F16 down .

 

[Riz]

No he used his pistol…. One bullet was found missing.
After ejecting he fired with his gun and brought the F16 down .

Pak bought all 4 mijjiles from ebay PAF bought a dummy F-16 from ebay before the final counting of pak F-16

 

[jaybird]

The other day I went to an Indian military forum because of the J-10CP news and see what they have to say, and then on their Pakistan thread all I see was Abhinandan heroic action and shot down of F-16 discussion. I mean what was I thinking..... I should've known better to go there.

 

[TopGun786]

With MIG-21....

Yes actually Abhinandan had a stone in his hand and when F-16 was near he opened the "window" and threw it on bull's eye. F16 was sh0t but due to high wind pressure at super sonic speed Abhinandan was also hurled out of the the jet and eventually landed inside Azad Kashmir.... Rest of the story you people know well.
Edit : P.S I a forgot to mention the fate of PAF F16. As Abhi-none-done was flying his "Super mig" at Mach 5, it added to the speed of stone he hurled and it acted as a meteorite which on impact vaporize F-16, hence no proof of where it went (later PAF bought a dummy F16 from eBay and put it on display along with other jets.
The fate of poor PAF pilot "Shahzaz Uddin'' is even more tragic. Upon landing local asked him to recite all 6 kalmas of Islam. He fumbled on the 6th kalma and eventually was lynched by locals. RIP

 

[Metal 0-1]

Most likely the Amraam hit the SU-30 over hilly area and the wreckage of the missile would be found there, if the SU was able to reach back to the airfield, how come was IAF able to find the wrecked AMram so quickly

Exactly whole NATO couldn't find Spanish AMRAAM fired accidentally over Estonia.

I think area of Estonia is smaller than IOK

 

[Goritoes]

Aap nain @PanzerKiel Sahib ko "patwaari" samajh rakha hae?

Double plate Biryani pe jaan bhi Qurban, Patwari kia cheez hai... @PanzerKiel sahab ne leg piece ki demand ki hai...

 

[Zowais]

Double plate Biryani pe jaan bhi Qurban, Patwari kia cheez hai... @PanzerKiel sahab ne leg piece ki demand ki hai...

Did sir @PanzerKiel wink after making the demand and say (in Pashto accent) "par piece tat hona chahiay"?

 

[Zarvan]

It was...let's not oblige the Indians here so easily.....

Anyways, it's D minus 6... Let's wait for the planned fly past on 27 February. Should be fun.

Waiting for it Sir

 

[Ghessan]

27 February 2022:

why don't all of us members give a "hazri" on this very thread, at the time and date of operation conducted?

we should do it every year, cause this thread is not going anywhere.