27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Yaseen1]

i not agree with indian claim of downing f16 but this video was made by indians so that is why person speaking in video making this claim but if you see video at end it become evident that one jet downed was shot down in close combat and no bvr is used for that as near downing jet other flying jet can be seen turning in a direction

So we already acknowledged shooting down two aircraft so not sure what PAF is covering up.
The video and analysis are fine, but I still dont know how you jump from a 2nd aircraft being shot to it being an F-16. Technically it could be a JF-17 (easier to hide for PAF), a Mirages 2000, another Mig-21 (easier to hide), or an Su-30 (also easy to hide).

 

[Riz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1112447013352812544

Epic trolling by Maj Asif ghafoor..

 

[Shabi1]

Now official your second pilot is dead.

https://www.facebook.com/

Looks like more will be revealed near election. on 5th April Army Chief briefing the parliament on the issue.

 

[Shabi1]

Now official second pilot is dead.

https://www.facebook.com/

Looks like more will be revealed near election. on 5th April Army Chief briefing the parliament on the issue.

 

[Comrade]

One thing is for sure, Su30Mki's air superiority was destroyed here.
follow this link to know more...

 

[MystryMan]

Mig-27 is ground attack jet, unlikely it is involved with any action against PAF.

 

[Oruc]

One thing is for sure, Su30Mki's air superiority was destroyed here.
follow this link to know more...

which link bro?

 

[Secret Service]

Now official second pilot is dead.

https://www.facebook.com/

Looks like more will be revealed near election. on 5th April Army Chief briefing the parliament on the issue.

Link not found.
Any details of his rank and name, body returned or not ?

 

[crankthatskunk]

@1Paki$tani @MastanKhan

I have raised these points and many more on different threads for over 4 weeks now. Most people show resistance. Working on basis that "absence of evidence is no evidence". Ignoring that sometimes "absence of evidence is the biggest evidence". Displaying the strong possibility that the evidence is suppressed purposefully.

In my opinion working on the known facts, the possibilities in the light of the known facts and my analysis of the known facts. The Indian losses were, according to the different pieces in the media.

1- Confirmed kill of Abhi Mig 21 Bison.

2- 2nd Bison going down in IoK on 27th Feb was definitely another PAF killed, not claimed because it was down on the other side, PAF may have a video, or if it was killed by a BVR missile, may be no conclusive video evidence available, therefore, PAF decided not to take the credit. They may have the evidence, which they may disclose later.

3- Mi 17 according to me is a kill too. Despite the claim by India that it was downed by friendly fire.

4- Su 30 kill. All the speculation apart but PAF and Turkish pilot wearing badges to show SU 30 kills gives the hint that it was downed by PAF. Otherwise PAF's higher ups would have stopped pilots wearing those badges. PAF may have proofs which could be presented later.

5- Yesterday's Mig 27 "crash" is curious. All the indications are the wreckage was placed there. Now Qs are that why would IAF do that!!! Unless they have something to hide. It is stupid to think that IAF had a wreckage ready from supposed "another crash" which they have now decided to place in Rajahistan without any valid reasons.
I don't think that any sensible person will buy this narrative. Hence, there are possibilities, that it may have been shot down on 27th, if not in the IoK sector then further down south. I am saying this because someone thinks that no Mig 27 were stationed in North West sector by IAF. We know on 26th and 27th there were air activities further south along international borders with India.

This is the score based on the media reports until now according to my analysis of these reports.
What comes forward in next few weeks remain to be seen. Some suggested that may be a crash of Su30 is coming soon. If that is the case, which I also think is a good possibility then we would be certain of the game played by IAF to hide their failures on 27th Feb.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Mig-27 is ground attack jet, unlikely it is involved with any action against PAF.

But we still flew it hoping to do something. And paid the price.

Starting this thread to discuss Air Craft losses by Indian on 27 February 2019. I became real curious after seeing the report of Indian Mig-27 going down in Rajistan, same area where their Mig-21 went down few weeks back.

If Indian had lost more than 1 Mig or planes they needed to cover up the wreckage and the best way would be disguise it as air craft down due to mechanical fault or bird strike.

The current Mig 27 crash site seems to be re-created as the wreckage is not in piece, the heaviest part not leaving any crater. There is no evidence on the ground to suggest it was a crash and there is no sign to suggest it was mid-air break up at that place. All the pictures suggest that those items were placed there.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1112254289219604480

This is Mig 27 Crash site.

This was compared to previous MIG-27 crash

https://twitter.com/x/status/1112265353965568001

Or even MIG-21 that was shotdown. The crash site is entire different from the this crash.

So if the crash was re-created, than why? Air losses due to Mechanical failure are not unusually for Indian its a common occurrence. So why re-create the crash site unless it is to hide something that they do not want their public know such as it being shot down. Which would than take us to the question in the title of the thread. How Many air crafts did they lose on 27 Feb.

We also have to review the fact that the original death toll in chopper crash was only 2 but in the evening it was increased to 6. Ie there is increase of 4, which could be loss of pilots in Air Crafts that were shot down.

We also need to review the audio from PAF pilot (apparently) saying we are only seeing 30% of the damage.

In addition to all this the cry that came from IAF Chief and Modi that if they had Rafale than the result would have been different. Which would mean their current inventory was taken care off.

The confirmed / semi-confirmed information is 1 Mig 21 and 1 Su-30. PAF Patches confirm that. But could it be that they lost more planes that day and now day by day we will see more created crash sites to cover up those losses.

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PS: All this is speculative, so has been other stuff discussed for last month.

Possibly 11 aircraft in all

 

[Khafee]

Possibly 11 aircraft in all

Since Feb27, seems right.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Since Feb27, seems right.

Precisely.

 

[alee92nawaz]

One thing is for sure, Su30Mki's air superiority was destroyed here.
follow this link to know more...

Don't under estimate the enemy. Although flanker did disappoint. Instead of attacking PAF, it was busy trying to save it's own assss. Even though they claim that 2 sukhois thwarted 8 F-16

 

[1Paki$tani]

Possibly 11 aircraft in all

you can chose and quote any number. I did put disclaimer at end of my post to show that it is all speculative.

However, as per your own official agency the wreckage is of MIG27.

The way the wreckage is spread out it would only show that the plane fell apart in mid air and it did not crash in one piece. Now going by all that look at the engine piece and see how heavy it is. If it fell from sky even from 100m it would have made crater but there is no evidence of that.

So why would Indian place this wreckage and create crash site?

 

[Ghost 125]

1 Mig 21 , 1 MI 17 Confirm, 1 SU 30 (un confirmed)
rest is bullshit and fan fiction