26/11 Mumbai attacks: Victims seek $688 mn from Pak-based accused

[nair]

By the way, Any news of Lakhwi?????

 

[Donatello]

Represented by Hafeez Saeed!!!!!!!

Add Zaid Hamid, Hamid Mir, Zulfikar Bhutto and any one else as well.

 

[nair]

Add Zaid Hamid, Hamid Mir, Zulfikar Bhutto and any one else as well.

What they have in common? I thought ZB died long before 26/11

 

[Donatello]

What they have in common? I thought ZB died long before 26/11

Just saying, add random people who may or may not mean anything. What is India's fetish with Hafiz Saeed? There has been zero credible evidence provided by India, other than farts and guesses. Courts work on the basis of evidence, which India has not provided and is not willing to provide. It thinks that just by using it's own media to blame a person, Pakistan will hand in Hafiz Saeed. It doesn't happen that way, neither any where else in the world. So don't be stupid. I can blame you all i want, pull face down or whatever, but if i have no evidence, the courts will throw the case out. So you can cry all you want, and nothing will happen.

 

[nair]

Just saying, add random people who may or may not mean anything. What is India's fetish with Hafiz Saeed? There has been zero credible evidence provided by India, other than farts and guesses. Courts work on the basis of evidence, which India has not provided and is not willing to provide. It thinks that just by using it's own media to blame a person, Pakistan will hand in Hafiz Saeed. It doesn't happen that way, neither any where else in the world. So don't be stupid. I can blame you all i want, pull face down or whatever, but if i have no evidence, the courts will throw the case out. So you can cry all you want, and nothing will happen.

Was really curious to know what is common between those names you mentioned and what was their relation to 26/11.......

When it comes to legal system, i agree that proof is the most important aspect of any case...... We both know how many are convicted in terrorism related cases in pakistan in last 10 years.......

But my point was something different..... Well You know i Know HS relationship with Let and how Jud is related...... We can ignore it and find the excuse of lack of evidence......

 

[JonAsad]

Greedy people
And I thought in Pakistan even murderer can walk freely after giving some money to family??

Just like American diplomat case?

Not all but greedy people take money- thats why i called them greedy people-

 

[Donatello]

Was really curious to know what is common between those names you mentioned and what was their relation to 26/11.......

When it comes to legal system, i agree that proof is the most important aspect of any case...... We both know how many are convicted in terrorism related cases in pakistan in last 10 years.......

But my point was something different..... Well You know i Know HS relationship with Let and how Jud is related...... We can ignore it and find the excuse of lack of evidence......

Here is the thing:

How many of your RSS/VHP/BJP make controversial remarks? How many have you put to jail?

You know, from our side, Pakistanis killed in Samjhota Bombings, are still awaiting justice. yea we know how justice system works in your country.

 

[Zarvan]

Washington: Nine American and Israeli victims of the 2008 Mumbai attacks have demanded a compensation of $688 million from the Pakistan-based perpetrators of the terror assault, including JuD chief Hafiz Saeed.

In a re-submission before a New York court on 30 and 31 October, the nine victims of the Mumbai attacks –- from the US and Israel –- argued for a "trial by jury" and "default judgement" against Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD)/Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).

They also argued for a "trial by jury" and "default judgement" against JuD chief Hafiz Saeed, LeT commander Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Sajid Majid, Azam Cheema and two other Pakistani nationals Major Iqbal and Major Sameer Ali.

According to their attorney, the request for "trial by jury", "default judgement" and a "$688 million compensation" was filed before the Eastern District Court of New York after 1 November, 2013, court summons were duly served to JuD/LeT and other defendants in Pakistan to which they did not respond.

The compensation have been sought by the family members of seven persons who were brutally killed by LeT terrorists and two others who were injured.

The 26/11 American and Israeli victims had first filed their case on 19 November, 2010.

They had also sought action against ISI and its chief, but the court ruled that out after the US State Department told the court that they enjoyed diplomatic immunity as they were a part of a foreign government.

According to court papers, LeT, its leaders and other defendants were served with court summons and complaints.

But they have failed to answer or otherwise defend against this action, alleged the attorney on behalf of the 26/11 victims including Rabbi Shimon Rosenberg, father of Rifka Holtzberg who was murdered alongside her husband Rabbi Gabriel Holtzberg during the attack on the Chabad House in Mumbai.

Among others include Rabbi Nachman Holtzberg, father of Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg who was killed in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.

Other plaintiffs are Moses Shvarzblat and Maribeth Jeswani on behalf of family members killed in the attacks.

Andreina Varagona, who survived after getting shot in her right arm and leg in the attack, sued on her own behalf.

As many as 166 people died and more than 300 were injured when 10 LeT terrorists carried out the attack on multiple locations in Mumbai, including the Oberoi Trident Hotel, the Taj Mahal Hotel, the Leopold Cafe, the Cama and Albless Hospital, the Metro Cinema, the CST Railway Station and the Chabad House.

In June, the US added LeT affiliates, including the JuD, to its list of designated terror organisations.

Nine of the ten terrorists were killed during the siege.

In the court, the attorneys for 26/11 victims has said that the LeT and its leaders were successfully served the court summons at their addresses in Pakistan.

The victims alleged that the 26/11 perpetrators based in Pakistan decided not to respond to the court summons.

As a result they have now moved the petition for a default judgement against them.

In addition, the 26/11 victims have sought a total compensation of $688 million, according to court papers.

"At the time of the Mumbai terrorist attacks the defendant terrorist organisation responsible for organising and perpetrating the attacks functioned under the name Jamaat-ud-Dawa," said attorneys James P Kreindler and Andrew J Maloney in their submission on behalf of the 26/11 victims.

"Over the course of its existence it had assumed several aliases, including Markaz-ud-Dawa, Idara Khidmat-e-Khalq and Tehrik-e-Tahaffuz-e-Qibla Awal, but the most internationally recognised and widely known alias remains LeT," the attorneys said.

"The Mumbai terrorist attack was organised by a terrorist organization, LeT, with longstanding and well-documented hatred of the United States," they said.

The attack "was carried out with the help of an American citizen, David Headley, involved the use of cell phones for which virtual numbers were purchased from a US company, Callphonex, specifically targeted Americans, and resulted in American deaths," they said.

"That Americans were not the sole victims is only evidence of the terrorists' multi-pronged enemy list that included Israelis and Indians. The attackers targeted the Oberoi Hotel and the Taj Mahal Hotel because they were frequented by foreigners, and eye witness accounts from surviving hostages at both hotels tell of the harrowing experience of hearing the terrorists ask groups of hostages for American and British passport-holders," the attorneys said in thier submission.

26/11 Mumbai attacks: Victims seek $688 mn from Pak-based accused - Firstpost

They are not going to get a single penny

 

[nair]

Here is the thing:

How many of your RSS/VHP/BJP make controversial remarks? How many have you put to jail?

You know, from our side, Pakistanis killed in Samjhota Bombings, are still awaiting justice. yea we know how justice system works in your country.

Well Samjhota express bombing happened in India ( I agree Pakistani citizens were killed, similarly Indians also got killed )Planning was done in India.... And the investigation was done by Indian agencies, and the culprits were also indians, and right now they are inside an Indian jail........ Now how you plan to compare both these cases?

Now let me tell you how different are these cases.

26/11 happened in India, 300 people killed (most of them were indians and few were from other countries), The culprits were from Pakistan, The planning was done in Pakistan, Investigation was done by an Indian agency, and the culprits are there in Pakistan (few of them are in jail, and surprisingly one guy manage to make a baby while in jail)....

Now you can compare BJP's conterversial statement with that of bilawal and other political leaders who speaks similar language......

 

[WAR-rior]

Just saying, add random people who may or may not mean anything. What is India's fetish with Hafiz Saeed? There has been zero credible evidence provided by India, other than farts and guesses. Courts work on the basis of evidence, which India has not provided and is not willing to provide. It thinks that just by using it's own media to blame a person, Pakistan will hand in Hafiz Saeed. It doesn't happen that way, neither any where else in the world. So don't be stupid. I can blame you all i want, pull face down or whatever, but if i have no evidence, the courts will throw the case out. So you can cry all you want, and nothing will happen.

Why cry on Indias name? Say that to yanks. U can sell all that evidence bogey to India. Some reason Pak govt played on tunes and accepted every accusations when US sattelites provided every co ordinate of the calls from and to the terror sites.
U think playing this evidence card change the facts? Even ur political analysts systematically explained da reason for this attack since zardari was getting too friendly with MMS.
Who are you fooling? Americans? They have complete khulla chittha of ur covert activities.
Unfortunately, Pakistan will never act purposely irrespective of any evidence, since its India in picture. But here its Americans.
Go teach them this Lack of Evidence theory.

 

[Donatello]

Why cry on Indias name? Say that to yanks. U can sell all that evidence bogey to India. Some reason Pak govt played on tunes and accepted every accusations when US sattelites provided every co ordinate of the calls from and to the terror sites.
U think playing this evidence card change the facts? Even ur political analysts systematically explained da reason for this attack since zardari was getting too friendly with MMS.
Who are you fooling? Americans? They have complete khulla chittha of ur covert activities.
Unfortunately, Pakistan will never act purposely irrespective of any evidence, since its India in picture. But here its Americans.
Go teach them this Lack of Evidence theory.

Hi, apparently it is USA trying it's level best to win back Pakisani public perception.

 

[Donatello]

Well Samjhota express bombing happened in India ( I agree Pakistani citizens were killed, similarly Indians also got killed )Planning was done in India.... And the investigation was done by Indian agencies, and the culprits were also indians, and right now they are inside an Indian jail........ Now how you plan to compare both these cases?

Now let me tell you how different are these cases.

26/11 happened in India, 300 people killed (most of them were indians and few were from other countries), The culprits were from Pakistan, The planning was done in Pakistan, Investigation was done by an Indian agency, and the culprits are there in Pakistan (few of them are in jail, and surprisingly one guy manage to make a baby while in jail)....

Now you can compare BJP's conterversial statement with that of bilawal and other political leaders who speaks similar language......

Nope, all of the hindu hardliners who bombed and planned and the bombing are not in Indian jails. They are absconding. And Pakistan did request their extradition just like India did for Hafiz Saeed. Bombings happened in 2006, yet how many of them were hung?

 

[nair]

Nope, all of the hindu hardliners who bombed and planned and the bombing are not in Indian jails. They are absconding. And Pakistan did request their extradition just like India did for Hafiz Saeed. Bombings happened in 2006, yet how many of them were hung?

Extradition???? For what???? The crime happened in India, done by Indians, Do not try to equate both the incidents.....

 

[Donatello]

Extradition???? For what???? The crime happened in India, done by Indians, Do not try to equate both the incidents.....

Then why cry over Hafiz Saeed?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Washington: Nine American and Israeli victims of the 2008 Mumbai attacks have demanded a compensation of $688 million from the Pakistan-based perpetrators of the terror assault, including JuD chief Hafiz Saeed.

In a re-submission before a New York court on 30 and 31 October, the nine victims of the Mumbai attacks –- from the US and Israel –- argued for a "trial by jury" and "default judgement" against Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD)/Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).

They also argued for a "trial by jury" and "default judgement" against JuD chief Hafiz Saeed, LeT commander Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Sajid Majid, Azam Cheema and two other Pakistani nationals Major Iqbal and Major Sameer Ali.

According to their attorney, the request for "trial by jury", "default judgement" and a "$688 million compensation" was filed before the Eastern District Court of New York after 1 November, 2013, court summons were duly served to JuD/LeT and other defendants in Pakistan to which they did not respond.

The compensation have been sought by the family members of seven persons who were brutally killed by LeT terrorists and two others who were injured.

The 26/11 American and Israeli victims had first filed their case on 19 November, 2010.

They had also sought action against ISI and its chief, but the court ruled that out after the US State Department told the court that they enjoyed diplomatic immunity as they were a part of a foreign government.

According to court papers, LeT, its leaders and other defendants were served with court summons and complaints.

But they have failed to answer or otherwise defend against this action, alleged the attorney on behalf of the 26/11 victims including Rabbi Shimon Rosenberg, father of Rifka Holtzberg who was murdered alongside her husband Rabbi Gabriel Holtzberg during the attack on the Chabad House in Mumbai.

Among others include Rabbi Nachman Holtzberg, father of Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg who was killed in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.

Other plaintiffs are Moses Shvarzblat and Maribeth Jeswani on behalf of family members killed in the attacks.

Andreina Varagona, who survived after getting shot in her right arm and leg in the attack, sued on her own behalf.

As many as 166 people died and more than 300 were injured when 10 LeT terrorists carried out the attack on multiple locations in Mumbai, including the Oberoi Trident Hotel, the Taj Mahal Hotel, the Leopold Cafe, the Cama and Albless Hospital, the Metro Cinema, the CST Railway Station and the Chabad House.

In June, the US added LeT affiliates, including the JuD, to its list of designated terror organisations.

Nine of the ten terrorists were killed during the siege.

In the court, the attorneys for 26/11 victims has said that the LeT and its leaders were successfully served the court summons at their addresses in Pakistan.

The victims alleged that the 26/11 perpetrators based in Pakistan decided not to respond to the court summons.

As a result they have now moved the petition for a default judgement against them.

In addition, the 26/11 victims have sought a total compensation of $688 million, according to court papers.

"At the time of the Mumbai terrorist attacks the defendant terrorist organisation responsible for organising and perpetrating the attacks functioned under the name Jamaat-ud-Dawa," said attorneys James P Kreindler and Andrew J Maloney in their submission on behalf of the 26/11 victims.

"Over the course of its existence it had assumed several aliases, including Markaz-ud-Dawa, Idara Khidmat-e-Khalq and Tehrik-e-Tahaffuz-e-Qibla Awal, but the most internationally recognised and widely known alias remains LeT," the attorneys said.

"The Mumbai terrorist attack was organised by a terrorist organization, LeT, with longstanding and well-documented hatred of the United States," they said.

The attack "was carried out with the help of an American citizen, David Headley, involved the use of cell phones for which virtual numbers were purchased from a US company, Callphonex, specifically targeted Americans, and resulted in American deaths," they said.

"That Americans were not the sole victims is only evidence of the terrorists' multi-pronged enemy list that included Israelis and Indians. The attackers targeted the Oberoi Hotel and the Taj Mahal Hotel because they were frequented by foreigners, and eye witness accounts from surviving hostages at both hotels tell of the harrowing experience of hearing the terrorists ask groups of hostages for American and British passport-holders," the attorneys said in thier submission.

26/11 Mumbai attacks: Victims seek $688 mn from Pak-based accused - Firstpost

Some sharp lawyers are trying to milk money from the victims.


Unfortunately these lawyers are misguiding their clients.


Exact nature of contacts with Hafiz Saeed were never proven. Not even after the bozo Ajmal Kassab was caught alive.

These guys did the act on behest of Ayman Zawahiri types.

Hafiz Saeed is too small of a fish to conduct this complex operation.



Indians make this mistake of definining Pakistan as enemy.

In reality Pakistan aand India have a shared enemy. AlQaida / ISIS