200 Pakistani pilgrims denied entry into India

[root]

Good otherwise India could have started false flag operation to defame Pakistan.

 

[SamantK]

After the alerts of a possible re run of 26/11 type of attacks, we should not take any chances.

Sorry guys.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Hafiz Saeed leads mass rally in Islamabad - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Hafiz Saeed (R),
former Pakistani intelligence ISI chief Hamid Gul (C),
Chairman of the Defence of Pakistan coalition Maulana Sami ul-Haq (L) join hands as they attend an anti-India rally in Islamabad. -AFP Photo
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See what g8 leader of Maulana Sami ul-Haq has to say ..
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Mullah Omar is an angel-like human: Samiul Haq – The Express Tribune
Mullah Omar is an angel-like human: Samiul Haq
By Reuters
Published: September 15, 2013

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Maulana Samiul Haq , a cleric and head of Darul Uloom Haqqania, a seminary and alma mater of several Taliban leaders,

talks during an interview with Reuters

at his house in Akora Khattak, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province September 14, 2013. PHOTO: REUTERS

AKORA KHATTAK: He is known as the Father of the Taliban, a cleric who calls the Taliban’s one-eyed leader an “angel” and runs a seminary described as the University of Jihad.

Bespectacled and soft-spoken, Maulana Samiul Haq is a revered figure in Pakistan and Afghanistan whose views carry enormous weight among the Taliban on both sides of the border.

Tucked away in a dusty town off the main motorway to the Afghan border, his Darul Uloom Haqqania university was the launching pad for the Taliban movement in the 1990s and is still often described as the incubator for radical fighters.

Speaking to Reuters at the sprawling campus near his native town of Akora Khattak, Haq did little to hide his sympathies for the Taliban, a word meaning “students” in Pashto.

He said he was sure the Taliban would soon sweep back to power in Afghanistan.

“Give them just one year and they will make the whole of Afghanistan happy,” Haq said. “The whole of Afghanistan will be with them … Once the Americans leave, all of this will happen within a year.”

Despite Haq’s openly pro-Taliban views and connections, his seminary is recognised officially in Pakistan – a symptom of Islamabad’s long-running duality over the Taliban issue.

Haq would not talk about this publicly but he is believed to be close to the security forces – a legacy of an era when Pakistan sponsored movements and supported fighters, including Osama bin Laden, against Soviet troops in Afghanistan.

Kabul’s government has long accused Pakistan of playing a double game while publicly condemning extremism – a charge Islamabad fiercely denies.

Back in the 1980s, many young Darul Uloom Haqqania graduates swapped books for guns and drove west along the highway running just outside its iron gates towards Afghanistan, where they joined groups to fight against the Russians.

One of them, Mullah Mohammed Omar, later took advantage of the chaos that followed the Soviet withdrawal in 1989 to found the Taliban movement – a period often recalled with nervousness ahead of next year’s drawdown of US forces from Afghanistan.

Omar is now believed to be hiding somewhere in Pakistan’s tribal regions on the Afghan border.

Haq’s face brightened as he recalled Omar, one of his bests students, but laughed when asked about his whereabouts.

“He is a devout Muslim, very virtuous. He is hospitable. He is a very simple man, with no princely tastes,” Haq said, alternating between Urdu and Pashto.

“He is very intelligent. He understands politics and is wise to the tricks of outsiders.”

Haq added with conviction: “He is no aggressor. He is an angel-like human being.”

Taliban alma mater

The seminary, founded in 1947, is now one of biggest and most respected Islamic institutions in South Asia. It propagates a hard-line curriculum based on the Deobandi strain of Sunni Islam.

Fenced off from the hustle and bustle of the outside world by high walls and barbed wire, it houses 4,000 male students in its multi-storey concrete buildings.

Haq says he and his seminary have nothing to do with terrorism. He has even offered to mediate between the United States and militants in order to bring peace to Afghanistan.

Haq, who speaks fluent Arabic,

said the US ambassador to Pakistan visited him in July to discuss the situation in the region but added that peace was not possible as long as foreign troops were still in Afghanistan.

“As long as they are there, Afghans will have to fight for their freedom,” Haq said. “It’s a war for freedom. It will not stop until outsiders leave.”

The Taliban were initially popular among Afghans after years of Soviet brutality and the ensuing anarchy of feuding warlords. But that quickly changed after they seized power and enforced puritanical restrictions on all spheres of people’s lives.

After years of war there are hopes that the Taliban might be coaxed to the negotiating table or even turned into a political movement with the help of influential mediators such as Haq.

But would the Taliban still listen to him?

“They are my students. In our tradition, a teacher is like a father, like a spiritual leader,” Haq said. “Afghans should be allowed to fight for their freedom. Foreign powers should get out and let them do what they want.”

Seriously mate ...... You really need to improve you basic skills in English language. Most of your post are totally unreadable.

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hee Sorry dear ..
will take care of it..

 

[Lord ZeN]

'Pilgrims' after they are allowed in there will be terrorists attacks i know for sure

Welcome to PDF mate ... Why don't u tell us all about yourself in Member Introduction.
I don't these Pilgrims are terrorist mate. But we had some security concerns so postponed their visit. ...

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Because they are all polio vaccinated!

well that's good to know....are you their doctor too?

 

[krishnathealien]

well that's good to know....are you their doctor too?

Why ?You are also not vaccinated ?

 

[Hyperion]

From left to right..... A talib, the guy responsible for creating the Talib and side-kick!

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[pursuit of happiness]

From left to right..... A talib, the guy responsible for creating the Talib and side-kick!

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read post no 18 same theard
till there people are there.. peace is long distance dream

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Why ?You are also not vaccinated ?

by saying "also" you are implying that they arent?

I'm good kiddo; but since you are their self-proclaimed doctor we'll know who to collect medical records from, apparently

From left to right..... A talib, the guy responsible for creating the Talib and side-kick!

"taleb" means student...i guess he'd be the "ustad"

center - a retired Intelligence officer whose been out of the game since 1989, hasnt been to Wana or any part of the tribal areas since '87 (well before the talebs became a single organization)

right - nothing to do with taleban

 

[Hyperion]

What you need is a dose of reality..... Sami ul Haq is no different than your RSS guys...... true, peace maybe a distant reality, however, that does not necessarily mean that it's not the average Joe's of Pakistan and India that are not ready for peace, rather the ones that buy wholesale the ideology of such organizations, RSS being one of them.....

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read post no 18 same theard
till there people are there.. peace is long distance dream

 

[RAMPAGE]

What you need is a dose of reality..... Sami ul Haq is no different than your RSS guys...... true, peace maybe a distant reality, however, that does not necessarily mean that it's not the average Joe's of Pakistan and India that are not ready for peace, rather the ones that buy wholesale the ideology of such organizations, RSS being one of them.....

Still smitten by "#IndiawithPakistan" ???

 

[Hyperion]

True on "Ustad" part...... the one in center - well - we can all agree that he has no more juice left, nothing but a facilitator of Talabanese mindset (read not abettor)... the one on right a local criminal, I'm sure you're well aware of his "chanda" tactics and the bodies of Pakistani citizens that lie in his path, whenever someone defies his magnificence!

I'm sure you get exactly what I'm saying!

"taleb" means student...i guess he'd be the "ustad"

center - a retired Intelligence officer whose been out of the game since 1989, hasnt been to Wana or any part of the tribal areas since '87 (well before the talebs became a single organization)

right - nothing to do with taleban

Still basking in glorious light of Takfiri Islam?

Still smitten by "#IndiawithPakistan" ???

 

[Dash]

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yes we too..
now as per some rogh eleemtn in pak like HS who openly call jiahd in india..
sorry we cant do it NOW>>>NOW>>>


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Samjauto express was shame incident and people are behind bars.. but still we cant say we did all whihc we could ..
but that cant be intremtn of you guys to judge us


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reason is in your backyard
Hafiz Saeed leads mass rally in Islamabad - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Hafiz Saeed leads mass rally in Islamabad
Reuters
Published Sep 07, 2013 12:30am
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Hafiz Saeed, head of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa organisation and founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba, waves to his supporters during a rally marking Pakistan's Defense Day in Islamabad. -Reuters Photo

ISLAMABAD: Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) founder Hafiz Saeed appeared openly at a rally in Islamabad on Friday, denouncing India as a terrorist state as thousands of his supporters chanted for “holy war” against the rival nuclear nation.

India has accused Hafiz Saeed of masterminding the 2008 attack on its financial capital Mumbai where gunmen killed 166 people over three days. The United States has offered $10 million for information leading to his arrest and conviction.

As dusk fell, more than 10,000 people gathered in Islamabad in a show of defiance certain to enrage India further following weeks of tensions over the disputed Kashmir border.

“The United States and India are very angry with us. This means God is happy with us,” Saeed told the crowd as supporters chanted “Jihad!” (“Holy war”) and “War will continue until the liberation of Kashmir”. He did not use the word “jihad” himself.

“We are ready for every sacrifice for the liberation of Kashmir,” the stocky and bearded former professor added at the rally marking Pakistan's Defence Day.

Speaking about Sarabjit Singh, an Indian prisoner who died in a Pakistani jail this year and was given a state funeral back home, Saeed told the crowd: “He was a terrorist. How can the Indian government give state honours to a terrorist? This means the Indian government and army are terrorists.”

India has called on Pakistan to bring Saeed to justice, an issue that has stood in the way of rebuilding relations between the nuclear-armed neighbours since the Mumbai carnage.

Saeed is the founder of the LeT, a militant group banned in Pakistan but tolerated unofficially and believed to be close to the army. Saeed has long abandoned its leadership and is now the head of its charity wing.

India is furious that Pakistan has not detained him since it handed over evidence against him to Islamabad, and allows Saeed to live freely in the city of Lahore in a villa with police stationed outside.

Relations plunged to further lows last month after the killing of five Indian soldiers along the so-called Line of Control that separates the two sides in the Himalayan region of Kashmir.

BELLIGERENT MOOD

Seeking to defuse tensions, Pakistan's civilian leaders have kept a conciliatory tone, but on Friday, as thousands gathered in Islamabad, emotions spilled into the open.

The mood was strikingly anti-Western and belligerent, with speakers openly declaring their sympathy for the Taliban fighting Western forces in neighbouring Afghanistan.

“India should stop describing Kashmir as its indispensable part,” Saeed said from a makeshift stage mounted on a truck. “Otherwise every part of India would be dispensable for us.”

As the crowd cheered, two men performed a patriotic song threatening to “turn the whole of India into Mumbai”.

Others chanted “Whoever is a friend of India is a traitor” and waved black and white striped flags.

“They should know there are a lot of people here who are waiting for the conquest of India,” Hamid Gul, a former chief of the ISI intelligence service, told the crowd.

“It will be our privilege to take part in this war.”

Saeed founded the LeT, which India blames for the rampage in Mumbai, in the 1990s. He has denied involvement in any attacks.

He abandoned the leadership after India accused the LeT of being behind an attack on the Indian parliament in December 2001.

His charity, linked to the LeT, enjoys popular support for its humanitarian work.

IS that not Hamid Gul sitting beside HS? @Hyperion ??

 

[pursuit of happiness]

IS that not Hamid Gul sitting beside HS? @Hyperion ??

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yes

 

[Hyperion]

Yups!

IS that not Hamid Gul sitting beside HS? @Hyperion ??